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Started by Herman Cain, November 09, 2021, 10:26:04 AM

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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 07, 2022, 03:27:41 PM
Wonder if Dennis Gates would be a good fit at Georgetown.

Good question.  Is he the heir apparent Ad FSU when Leonard Hamilton finally retires, though?

Ryan Odom and Jeff Boals would seem like guys worth exploring as well. 

I'm not sure if Matt McMahon is a fit but he's had a lot of success at Murray State.  John Becker of Vermont?

I wouldn't be shocked if Jamie Dixon got a look, either
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: BrewCity83 on February 07, 2022, 03:26:50 PM
The 2011 UCONN team is on Line 1...

Fair. That team was really odd. Lost 7 of their last 11 games in the conference. Dropped from being ranked 6 to 21. Then just went on a heater against 4 top 25 teams (and also, DePaul). Definitely helped them to play who they played and win the BET in terms of seeding.

I just recall Brew having an article talking about the conference tourneys don't really do much from a seeding perspective. Maybe I am recalling incorrectly.
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MUfan12

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 07, 2022, 03:35:20 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if Jamie Dixon got a look, either

If he's up for a project I think Dixon would be a great hire there.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: BLM on February 07, 2022, 10:31:55 AM
I don't think Providence is intentionally dodging those games, I think it's just hard to schedule them.

It's also in their best interest not to reschedule them. I wonder if they would "try harder" to play the games if they were on the bubble or just on the other side of it.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 07, 2022, 04:06:50 PM
If he's up for a project I think Dixon would be a great hire there.

With the b12 changes, I could see him thinking about a move.
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Pepe Sylvia

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 07, 2022, 04:07:16 PM
It's also in their best interest not to reschedule them. I wonder if they would "try harder" to play the games if they were on the bubble or just on the other side of it.

The Big East is responsible for rescheduling conference games. I guess providence can like fudge arena availability or whatever but they didn't make the no 3 game weeks back to back, no back to back games rules that have made making up their games untenable.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: JakeBarnes on February 07, 2022, 04:11:27 PM
With the b12 changes, I could see him thinking about a move.

He's been sniffing around other jobs the last few cycles.  TCU is what it is as far as a basketball job.  He's still only 56, so he's not too old.  He has experience in the league, sort of.  I'm just not sure what Georgetown's vision is.

I'd throw out Sean Miller or Chris Mack but I'm not sure those are the type of reclamation projects they'd want
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tower912

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bilsu

Quote from: Elonsmusk on February 07, 2022, 09:53:02 AM
Considering Wojo "led" Marquette to 9th place finish in his 7th year on the job, had zero NCAA wins, and was let go by Marquette?  Pretty sure GTown fans would NOT sign off on that hire.  At all.  I get the East Coast native angle, yet many of Wojo's ace recruits were from the relationships of Stan and Dwayne Killings.

It was mentioned in a different thread that Shaka's results weren't all that different from Wojos.  Well, Shaka won the Big 12 title last year and the Big 12 was and has been a much tougher conference than the Big East the last 7 years.
The zero NCAA wins and lack of success in the Big East tourney were a big problem for me. However, we should not forget how much Covid hurt last year's team. We came close to beating UCLA and Oklahoma St. I have to believe we might have won those games, if we did not have to shut down practice for 14 days. That shut down really hurt the team and put Wojo directly behind the 8 ball.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: tower912 on February 07, 2022, 05:09:07 PM
Is Matta rested and ready?

Too busy recruiting for IU.

I think Archie Miller does make a ton of sense for Gtown. So does Dixon.

Depends on if they want retreads or not. Wouldn't be surprised to see some coaches come out of the woodwork for the Gtown job given the history there.
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Herman Cain

Creighton barely beat Butler

Our game with Butler is not a lay up.
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BM1090

Quote from: Herman Cain on February 08, 2022, 10:16:30 PM
Creighton barely beat Butler

Our game with Butler is not a lay up.

Or both games are layups.

Interested in seeing how we respond on Saturday. If they respond how I expect them to and put together a good performance, I predict a six game win streak to close the regular season.

MU82

A truly bizarre box score line for Gillespie vs. St. John's tonight:

0 points on 0-5 shooting (0-3 from 3), 0 assists, 4 fouls ... and 10 rebounds (all defensive) in 25 minutes.

First time he's gone scoreless since 3/25/18, when as a freshman mostly garbage-time player he had 0 points in 2 minutes vs Texas Tech in the Elite Eight.

We coulda used him on the boards tonight!!
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romey

Quote from: MU82 on February 08, 2022, 10:46:08 PM
A truly bizarre box score line for Gillespie vs. St. John's tonight:

0 points on 0-5 shooting (0-3 from 3), 0 assists, 4 fouls ... and 10 rebounds (all defensive) in 25 minutes.

First time he's gone scoreless since 3/25/18, when as a freshman mostly garbage-time player he had 0 points in 2 minutes vs Texas Tech in the Elite Eight.

We coulda used him on the boards tonight!!
I know they said he was injured (leg, I believe) and was questionable to play.  Yet, he played 25 minutes.  Obviously not 100%

Galway Eagle

Quote from: BM1090 on February 08, 2022, 10:20:16 PM
Or both games are layups.

Interested in seeing how we respond on Saturday. If they respond how I expect them to and put together a good performance, I predict a six game win streak to close the regular season.

But are they Kolek layups that run out or get blocked or a cam Jones layups with a beautiful underhand scoop that works out?
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 07, 2022, 04:52:36 PM
He's been sniffing around other jobs the last few cycles.  TCU is what it is as far as a basketball job.  He's still only 56, so he's not too old.  He has experience in the league, sort of.  I'm just not sure what Georgetown's vision is.

I'd throw out Sean Miller or Chris Mack but I'm not sure those are the type of reclamation projects they'd want
Dixon is a TCU alum which is why he left a top 25 Pitt job(at the time) for Fort Worth. I believe TCU is paying him top 20 salary and TCU has a great campus with a lot of money. Plus the 'new' Big XII will have a top 5 Houston team joining and Cincy and BYI are decent adds to a league with Baylor and Kansas.

But I would agree that Georgetown is a better job with a great history and more upside.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 09, 2022, 12:25:36 PM
Dixon is a TCU alum which is why he left a top 25 Pitt job(at the time) for Fort Worth. I believe TCU is paying him top 20 salary and TCU has a great campus with a lot of money. Plus the 'new' Big XII will have a top 5 Houston team joining and Cincy and BYI are decent adds to a league with Baylor and Kansas.

But I would agree that Georgetown is a better job with a great history and more upside.

There were stories floating around he isn't thrilled to be there, even as an alum
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brewcity77

Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 09, 2022, 12:25:36 PMDixon is a TCU alum which is why he left a top 25 Pitt job(at the time) for Fort Worth.

I think TCU was a bit of a soft landing spot, kind of like Shaka leaving Texas for Marquette. Dixon had gone seven straight years without making it to the second weekend and results looked decidedly worse the first few years of the ACC. Pitt fans wanted more, but I don't think they realized that Dixon, like Howland before him, probably took that program as far as it could go.

Since he left, they haven't had a winning season and have had double-digit ACC losses every year. Definitely a be careful what you wish for situation. There were some rumors he didn't like the ACC situation from the start and supposedly Marquette kicked the tires in 2014 to see if he wanted to replace Buzz. Obviously didn't go anywhere, but I could see him doing really well at a job like Georgetown. TCU is a really tough job in the toughest league in the country and he's at least been respectable. Georgetown might be a chance for Dixon to get back to the big time, something that will never happen at TCU.
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Remember that Dixon all but had a deal at UCLA back in 2019 but UCLA pulled out when they couldn't negotiate down the $8 million buy out from TCU.

TCU won't be his final stop.  He's still only 56.
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tower912

I can see Georgetown making a run at Anthony Grant.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Quote from: tower912 on February 09, 2022, 02:34:29 PM
I can see Georgetown making a run at Anthony Grant.

I agree; with their past history I doubt they would hire a non-minority coach and Grant has a good resume.

JWags85

Quote from: muwarrior69 on February 09, 2022, 03:15:13 PM
I agree; with their past history I doubt they would hire a non-minority coach and Grant has a good resume.

His resume is...fine.  Still hasn't proven he can compete in a major conference.  He was great at VCU, failed at Bama, and he's been alright at Dayton.  He caught lightning in a bottle with Obi Toppin but has done really nothing without him.

Mike Sweetney is an assistant at Yeshiva U in NYC.  Maybe they make a run at him

Herman Cain

X at The Hall should be a decent battle. 

Opportunity for DePaul to pick up another Big East Win if they can keep Georgetown winless.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Herman Cain on February 09, 2022, 05:00:31 PM
X at The Hall should be a decent battle. 

Opportunity for DePaul to pick up another Big East Win if they can keep Georgetown winless.

Do we want the Hall here?

brewcity77

Quote from: MuggsyB on February 09, 2022, 06:43:00 PM
Do we want the Hall here?

Be nice for Hall to get back to top-30. From a maximizing bids perspective, Hall is also the pick. But they're still SHU, so I understand the argument for cheering against them.
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