2021-22 Big East Conference Results

[SaveOD238]

With Seton Hall getting the win they are only 1 game behind MU in the conference race (9-7 vs 8-8).  Of course if Marquette wins out they will hold that #5 seed at least.  But even if we end up tied with Hall I think we would win the tiebreaker.  We split with them, but if the next tiebreaker is "best win" we have a W over Providence and two over Nova so we should be set there.

[MuggsyB]

With Seton Hall getting the win they are only 1 game behind MU in the conference race (9-7 vs 8-8).  Of course if Marquette wins out they will hold that #5 seed at least.  But even if we end up tied with Hall I think we would win the tiebreaker.  We split with them, but if the next tiebreaker is "best win" we have a W over Providence and two over Nova so we should be set there.

We beat them twice.

[PGsHeroes32]

With Seton Hall getting the win they are only 1 game behind MU in the conference race (9-7 vs 8-8).  Of course if Marquette wins out they will hold that #5 seed at least.  But even if we end up tied with Hall I think we would win the tiebreaker.  We split with them, but if the next tiebreaker is "best win" we have a W over Providence and two over Nova so we should be set there.

We have tiebreaker.

So if we go 1-2(boy I hope not) they have to 3-0.

[AlienWarrior]

We swept SH so we own the tie breaker

[SaveOD238]

We beat them twice.

Yeah realized that as soon as I posted. 

We're in very good shape for the 5 as long as we win at least one.  X or SJU could catch us too, but everything would have to break right for those teams.

[DoctorV]

Their luck will run out.  Despite their seed I don't expect. much from them in the tournament.

You are likely right Muggsy, but put their season into a non-metrics perspective...

They are 23-3, 13-2 in the Big East.

That's a 1 seed in a non metrics centric season. Instead, they are a projected 4 seed... At first thought you might consider them "lucky" because of all their close wins. On the flip side, you could argue they are "unlucky" because those close games, although still wins, coupled by a blowout loss at Marquette is costing them 3 seed lines and giving them a much harder road.

Welcome to an era where computers decide way too much, for good or bad.

[MuggsyB]

You are likely right Muggsy, but put their season into a non-metrics perspective...

They are 23-3, 13-2 in the Big East.

That's a 1 seed in a non metrics centric season. Instead, they are a projected 4 seed... At first thought you might consider them "lucky" because of all their close wins. On the flip side, you could argue they are "unlucky" because those close games, although still wins, coupled by a blowout loss at Marquette is costing them 3 seed lines and giving them a much harder road.

Welcome to an era where computers decide way too much, for good or bad.

I don't care for the computers or analytics in general from a hoops perspective.  I'd still take Shaq in today's game.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Well I'd rather play Creighton than UCONN if we wind up 4 or 5.

Agreed, this is why I was pulling for St. John's tonight. UConn and Creighton are now tied for 3-spot and Creighton owns the tiebreaker at the moment. It could all come down to the UConn/Creighton game in Omaha on March 2nd. Winner most likely gets the the three seed.

[MuggsyB]

Agreed, this is why I was pulling for St. John's tonight. UConn and Creighton are now tied for 3-spot and Creighton owns the tiebreaker at the moment. It could all come down to the UConn/Creighton game in Omaha on March 2nd. Winner most likely gets the the three seed.

It certainly looks that way alrhough it's conceivable Creighton coukd beat UCONN and go 1-2. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It certainly looks that way alrhough it's conceivable Creighton coukd beat UCONN and go 1-2.

Sure. It's also conceivable that Creighton could be UCONN and go 1-2 and UConn could lose one of their 2 other games.

Bottom line, if Marquette wins at least 2 of their remaining 3 (which should absolutely should be expected) they are guaranteed at least the 5 seed. If they win at least 1, then either Seton Hall, St. John's, or both will need to go 3-0 in order to force MU out of the top 5. So let's just take care of business and no one needs to worry about tiebreakers or who to cheer for.

[MuggsyB]

Sure. It's also conceivable that Creighton could be UCONN and go 1-2 and UConn could lose one of their 2 other games.

Bottom line, if Marquette wins at least 2 of their remaining 3 (which should absolutely should be expected) they are guaranteed at least the 5 seed. If they win at least 1, then either Seton Hall, St. John's, or both will need to go 3-0 in order to force MU out of the top 5. So let's just take care of business and no one needs to worry about tiebreakers or who to cheer for.

I don't see UCONN losing to Gtown or DePaul at home.

[PGsHeroes32]

Creighton got a tough schedule basically have to go 2-1 to get that 3 seed.

[MuggsyB]

If we wind up 4 or 5 and play Creighton I think we're in the perfect position to make a run in the BET.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Creighton got a tough schedule basically have to go 2-1 to get that 3 seed.

Ryan Nembhard likely is done with a broken wrist.

[MuggsyB]

Ryan Nembhard likely is done with a broken wrist.

Is that official?  Horrible to hear that.

[statnik]

Frankly, Cooley's coaching sucked tonight, at least after I turned on the game with 4 minutes left in regulation.

So much of the time, Bynum or Durham bounced the ball for 28 seconds and ended up hoisting up a prayer. The idiotic foul/no-foul. His team acting as if it had never seen a zone defense. Just about never getting the ball to Watson - not even looking his way.

I haven't watched a whole lot of them this year, has this happened before a lot in their close wins or did they actually run a cohesive offense?

[MU82]

I haven't watched a whole lot of them this year, has this happened before a lot in their close wins or did they actually run a cohesive offense?

I haven't watched them much either, so I'll defer to those who have. Maybe injuries and foul situations (and Xavier's defense?) dictated some of what they did in this one.

[GoldenEagles03]

As expected Nemhard is officially out for the season.

[PointWarrior]

Agree, providence not that as good as record says, won't make it out of the first weekend of the dance.

Their luck will run out.  Despite their seed I don't expect. much from them in the tournament.

[rocky_warrior]

...the last Marquette freshmen class to experience a Marquette ncaa tourney win is what, 'bout 28 now?

[wet blanket alert]
That's also the last Shaka Freshman class to witness a NCAA tourney win
[/wba]

Hope he fixes that soon!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I don't see UCONN losing to Gtown or DePaul at home.

Sure but it's possible. My guess is UConn beats Creighto and all this doesn't matter anyway.

[willie warrior]

Well I'd rather play Creighton than UCONN if we wind up 4 or 5.

There is no difference. They both own Shaka. McDermott outcomes Shaka each time.

[Uncle Rico]

There is no difference. They both own Shaka. McDermott outcomes Shaka each time.

Lol

[StillWarriors]

I haven't watched them much either, so I'll defer to those who have. Maybe injuries and foul situations (and Xavier's defense?) dictated some of what they did in this one.

I would say that was unusual down the stretch. They usually don't rely on one guy carrying them so much, and a few have shown the ability and tendency to make big shots down the stretch. Coming out on top with Reeves out and Durham so limited was somewhat surprising, especially with Watson pretty much invisible all night. Xavier played great D on a lot of possession and Prov ends up making a big late in the shot clock shot. They did the same against Butler after being way behind.

As much crap as they are taking for being "lucky," and they certainly are having a charmed season, 23-3 and 13-2 is damn impressive. I don't know that Prov will have a long tourney run, but they deserve props and to enjoy the hell out of an all-time magical season. It's also good for the conf to have someone other than Nova win it outright in my opinion.

[DoctorV]

I would say that was unusual down the stretch. They usually don't rely on one guy carrying them so much, and a few have shown the ability and tendency to make big shots down the stretch. Coming out on top with Reeves out and Durham so limited was somewhat surprising, especially with Watson pretty much invisible all night. Xavier played great D on a lot of possession and Prov ends up making a big late in the shot clock shot. They did the same against Butler after being way behind.

As much crap as they are taking for being "lucky," and they certainly are having a charmed season, 23-3 and 13-2 is damn impressive. I don't know that Prov will have a long tourney run, but they deserve props and to enjoy the hell out of an all-time magical season. It's also good for the conf to have someone other than Nova win it outright in my opinion.

^^ this. Their run is good for the conference, it's nice for Villanova to have some legit challengers.

The BE is a gauntlet and what they've accomplished shouldn't be undervalued.

As for the future, well the key to their NCAA success probably lands in the hands of Bynum. He was fantastic last night, and has been the entire month
He's averaging 23 ppg! along with 4apg and getting involved in the rebounding and steals categories. Shooting 59% from 3 during the stretch.

If he cools off or has a bad game they can still survive and advance based on their defense and other parts. They will not have a good tournament run without him having a good tournament, however.

If Marquette had a pg, or any guard for that matter, with a 5 game stretch that's anywhere close to that we would be in serious business.