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cheebs09

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 28, 2021, 06:00:17 PM
My kids & I are in NYC, all the NBA draft entrants are staying at our hotel. Just shared an elevator with Jalen Johnson.

Will you be sneaking your way into the draft? Bucks might need a Bobby Portis replacement.

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 28, 2021, 08:22:37 PM
CBS Sports has Sam going to da Knicks in da 2nd rd. Just sayin', hey?

I'd be surprised.  All of heard on NYC sports talk radio since Thibs was hired coach was his defensive approach he drilled into players and all I've heard on Scoop was a major Sam's defensive liability.

MUBurrow

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 29, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
I'd be surprised.  All of heard on NYC sports talk radio since Thibs was hired coach was his defensive approach he drilled into players and all I've heard on Scoop was a major Sam's defensive liability.

Imagine the letter that's going to get written to Thibs.

MU82

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on July 29, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
I'd be surprised.  All of heard on NYC sports talk radio since Thibs was hired coach was his defensive approach he drilled into players and all I've heard on Scoop was a major Sam's defensive liability.

Thibs likes smart, hard-working players. Thibs also has enough of an ego (as all coaches and athletes do) to believe he can improve any player's defense.

But sure, it wouldn't surprise me if the Knicks didn't take Hauser ... just as it wouldn't surprise me if they or some other team did. I mean, he's 6-8, an incredible shooter in an era that emphasizes the 3-point shot, intelligent, and not soft like L'il Hausie.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Just read The Athletic's look at the best big men available, and this jumped out at me about Mamu ...

College head coach 1 (his team played Seton Hall): Mamu, I think he could be the steal of the draft. He's really skilled. He can really pass, he can shoot it, he's big as crap, he's mobile. Now, he's a little older (22). And I thought their team sucked this year, and I thought they were good because of him. He did everything. He brought it up the floor, he rebounded, he made shots, they isolated him. He's got the Euro feel, but he's got the American impact to him. And I think (Seton Hall's) Kevin (Willard) is a good coach. He can be a steal in the draft. If he can shoot it, there's no reason why he can't be a pro that has a sustainable career. I love him. He's a little like (former Magic and Rockets forward) Ryan Anderson. They're a little different, but similar. He's got some of the Troy Murphy in him, taking it back. He can shoot it, he can put it on the deck. He's big, he'll break you down a little bit. I thought he was like a chameleon. He could adapt to whatever environment you had. They didn't have enough horsepower. Early in the year, he was getting 20 and 10. And I thought he just got worn down. They didn't have a point guard, they didn't have Myles Powell. They were setting ball screens for him in transition.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Ahh yes, Mamu is like 2 time BE POY and 2 time 1st team AA Troy Murphy cause they are both tall white guys who can shoot a bit.

Mamu shot 33% from 3 for his career, including this year.  Ryan Anderson shot 40% from deep in college in an era where the 3 wasn't yet what it is now.

Mamu probably gets drafted late 2nd and sticks for a bit cause he has NBA tools and size.  But I'd be shocked if he becomes a player of an substance.  Especially since he's a tool.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: JWags85 on July 29, 2021, 10:23:32 AM
Ahh yes, Mamu is like 2 time BE POY and 2 time 1st team AA Troy Murphy cause they are both tall white guys who can shoot a bit.

Mamu shot 33% from 3 for his career, including this year.  Ryan Anderson shot 40% from deep in college in an era where the 3 wasn't yet what it is now.

Mamu probably gets drafted late 2nd and sticks for a bit cause he has NBA tools and size.  But I'd be shocked if he becomes a player of an substance.  Especially since he's a tool.

While I agree that he seems to be a tool, I like his tools. I think he could turn into a solid NBA player.

Dish

The draft scene at the Westin Times Square is something. I think we're the only non NBA people in the hotel. I ate a piece of pizza with Moses Moody's uncle (I'm sure you're all proud).

Spaniel with a Short Tail

I always liked Mamu as a player. Won't surprise me to see him stick in the NBA for awhile.

wadesworld

I still cannot understand how Ayo could fall to the Bucks at 31, but I've seen some mocks of him in the second round.  That would be the dream pick for the Bucks if you ask me.  Sharife Cooper, Miles McBride, Joe Wieskamp, and Josh Christopher would all be good additions at 31.

lawdog77

Quote from: BLM on July 29, 2021, 12:55:04 PM
I still cannot understand how Ayo could fall to the Bucks at 31, but I've seen some mocks of him in the second round.  That would be the dream pick for the Bucks if you ask me.  Sharife Cooper, Miles McBride, Joe Wieskamp, and Josh Christopher would all be good additions at 31.
I don't follow the Bucks too closely, though I am happy they won. Where do you see the Bucks' biggest need?

cheebs09

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 29, 2021, 01:00:24 PM
I don't follow the Bucks too closely, though I am happy they won. Where do you see the Bucks' biggest need?

My thought would be guard depth. I think Donte is going into his last year. Already lost Forbes. They need someone who can defend and hit shots there. Also, a potential Brook replacement if he's traded.

Jockey

Quote from: BLM on July 29, 2021, 12:55:04 PM
I still cannot understand how Ayo could fall to the Bucks at 31, but I've seen some mocks of him in the second round.  That would be the dream pick for the Bucks if you ask me.  Sharife Cooper, Miles McBride, Joe Wieskamp, and Josh Christopher would all be good additions at 31.

I don't think he will ever be a star - or even close to it - but I would love to see the Bucks get Ayo. Could probably be a rotational player as a rookie. I also love the attitude/hustle that he brings to the floor. Could be a poor man's Jrue Holiday.

Weiskamp, Hyland also are intriguing

wadesworld

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 29, 2021, 01:00:24 PM
I don't follow the Bucks too closely, though I am happy they won. Where do you see the Bucks' biggest need?

Replace Bobby (backup 5 - rumors are Jeff Green and the Bucks have mutual interest, I think that'd be a great addition) and add a secondary ballhandler off the bench (hoping that's Ayo).

Otherwise can always use more shooting.

The Sultan

Right, the Bucks will be addressing their needs in FA.  They are drafting best available and hoping one of their young guys steps into the rotation this year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on July 29, 2021, 01:08:45 PM
Right, the Bucks will be addressing their needs in FA.  They are drafting best available and hoping one of their young guys steps into the rotation this year.

They will be over the luxury tax, so FA options will be limited, though.

MUfan12

Quote from: Jockey on July 29, 2021, 01:45:04 PM
They will be over the luxury tax, so FA options will be limited, though.

Some vets that want to ring chase might take a pay cut.

I think Nwora is a guy that could step into Forbes' role. Not a good defender but neither was Bryn.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Bucks might move #31 for a vet. They have 2 trade exceptions worth about $6.5 million combined.  Add a player or two for salary filler and they might get in the $8-9 million range.

Not sure what that gets them, but even if they keep the pick I expect the Bucks to prioritize win now players over raw players that have more upside.

wadesworld

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on July 29, 2021, 02:08:23 PM
Bucks might move #31 for a vet. They have 2 trade exceptions worth about $6.5 million combined.  Add a player or two for salary filler and they might get in the $8-9 million range.

Not sure what that gets them, but even if they keep the pick I expect the Bucks to prioritize win now players over raw players that have more upside.

Yeah, they're rumored to be trying to trade 31 for a vet, but I just don't know what 31 really gets you.

MUfan12

Quote from: BLM on July 29, 2021, 02:20:24 PM
Yeah, they're rumored to be trying to trade 31 for a vet, but I just don't know what 31 really gets you.

Potentially first round value at a lower cap number. That has to have some value.

The Sultan

Quote from: MUfan12 on July 29, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Potentially first round value at a lower cap number. That has to have some value.


Actually I think early second round picks might have more value because of the lack of a guaranteed contract.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

Just had awesome experience. All the lottery picks were making their way through the lobby. You had to be a hotel guest to be there. We met and got pictures with a bunch. Jalen Suggs and Cade Cunningham are really nice guys. It was awesome.

JWags85

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 29, 2021, 02:50:06 PM
Just had awesome experience. All the lottery picks were making their way through the lobby. You had to be a hotel guest to be there. We met and got pictures with a bunch. Jalen Suggs and Cade Cunningham are really nice guys. It was awesome.

Thats amazing, something they will always remember.  Ive seen plenty to know Suggs is an awesome kid.  Cunningham has always kind of had this air of a cocky, aloof persona.  Glad to hear its not necessarily the case.  The league can always use more stars that have an approachability to them.

Dish

Quote from: JWags85 on July 29, 2021, 03:17:24 PM
Thats amazing, something they will always remember.  Ive seen plenty to know Suggs is an awesome kid.  Cunningham has always kind of had this air of a cocky, aloof persona.  Glad to hear its not necessarily the case.  The league can always use more stars that have an approachability to them.

Cunningham was walking to the players waiting area with like 6 dudes (security/family), I said "Good luck tonight Cade). He saw my kids and said "I've only got a second, but let's get a pic". He 100% didn't need to do it, I was extremely happy he did.

Suggs was unbelievably nice. He was walking with just one dude, saw us and high fived my kids, talked to us, said absolutely for a pic, and was all smiles the entire time. Very easy guy to root for, hope he succeeds.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: DegenerateDish on July 29, 2021, 12:34:53 PM
The draft scene at the Westin Times Square is something. I think we're the only non NBA people in the hotel. I ate a piece of pizza with Moses Moody's uncle (I'm sure you're all proud).
the lobby bar there is pretty solid.

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