NCAA Might Lift All NIL Rules

[Pakuni]

If Bates has a deal with FedEx or anyone else, it also would violate Tennessee's NIL law, which states:
"Entities who support or benefit the institution or its athletic program may not compensate or cause compensation to be provided to a student-athlete or recruit if the compensation is contingent on the student-athlete's enrollment or continued participation at an institution."
"An institution and its officers and employees may not be involved in the development, operation, or promotion of a current or prospective student-athlete's NIL, including actions that compensate or cause compensation to be provided to student-athletes."

The law also states:
"Student-athletes obtaining NIL compensation must disclose any agreement and its terms to their institution and must file annual reports with the institution in a time and manner designated by the institution."

So, it would seem any deal Bates has would need to be disclosed to Memphis. And, as a public institution, that deal might be subject to Freedom of Information laws.
So, who's going to file the FOIA request?

[The Sultan]

Very on brand for Emmert to throw his hands up in the air and try to make someone else responsible for doing the NCAA's job.
Not apples to apples, of course, but has there every been a sports commissioner as inept as Emmert? He makes Bud and Manfred look like savants.

In general I agree with you.  But he isn't wrong here.  The big conferences hold so much money and power that the NCAA is basically powerless when it comes to significant enforcement these days.  And he knows that.

I just don't think people care all that much any more.  If players are getting paid to go somewhere, the general public's reaction has gone from "shame on them" to "good for them!"  Amateurism just isn't considered an important value any longer.  (IMO....good)  Like this Bates' deal with FedEx?  I just can't get all that upset about it.

[The Sultan]

Like I said, MU is in a world of hurt with NIL. Maybe da teem kould appear in a Skidoo commercial, aina?

Marquette will be fine.  95% of NIL money is going to go to the top players who Marquette wasn't landing anyway. 

[4everwarriors]

Dat's my point. Gonna bee reely hard four Shaka ta bring inn da top playas. Da rich will get richa, aina?

[The Sultan]

Dat's my point. Gonna bee reely hard four Shaka ta bring inn da top playas. Da rich will get richa, aina?

Outside of those living in our backyard, Marquette wasn't landing those guys anyway.  The one-and-done types were going elsewhere, spending one year, and moving on.  I am increasingly of the opinion, if you look at Baylor, Virginia and Villanova, that those aren't the players you build championships around.

Sure the run of the mill, top 150 player may get a nice NIL deal at UW-Madison, but IMO we can compete with that.  I'm not all that concerned.

[wadesworld]

I'm happy players can profit off of their NIL.

Now I need an NCAA basketball game for PS5 ASAP.

[Uncle Rico]

Well, well, well

https://twitter.com/danmurphyespn/status/1435984454850424832?s=21

[Billy Hoyle]

If Bates has a deal with FedEx or anyone else, it also would violate Tennessee's NIL law, which states:
"Entities who support or benefit the institution or its athletic program may not compensate or cause compensation to be provided to a student-athlete or recruit if the compensation is contingent on the student-athlete's enrollment or continued participation at an institution."
"An institution and its officers and employees may not be involved in the development, operation, or promotion of a current or prospective student-athlete's NIL, including actions that compensate or cause compensation to be provided to student-athletes."

The law also states:
"Student-athletes obtaining NIL compensation must disclose any agreement and its terms to their institution and must file annual reports with the institution in a time and manner designated by the institution."

So, it would seem any deal Bates has would need to be disclosed to Memphis. And, as a public institution, that deal might be subject to Freedom of Information laws.
So, who's going to file the FOIA request?

You really think Memphis, the school that employed Cal and now Penny, hasn't covered all of their bases to make sure the deal doesn't violate Tennessee law...as far as anyone will ever be able to find out?

[MU82]

Well, well, well

https://twitter.com/danmurphyespn/status/1435984454850424832?s=21

This actually was predicted when NIL discussions first got serious more than a year ago. Volleyball players, gymnasts and others were predicted to do better than lots of football and basketball players.

[Billy Hoyle]

This actually was predicted when NIL discussions first got serious more than a year ago. Volleyball players, gymnasts and others were predicted to do better than lots of football and basketball players.

And, of course, it's because of sexism and implied racism (isn't everything these days though?).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/22/nil-deals-female-college-athletes/

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

And, of course, it's because of sexism and implied racism (isn't everything these days though?).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/22/nil-deals-female-college-athletes/

Is that incorrect? Good for the students for taking advantage.

[Uncle Rico]

This actually was predicted when NIL discussions first got serious more than a year ago. Volleyball players, gymnasts and others were predicted to do better than lots of football and basketball players.

Yup, but a lot of the Chicken Littles didn't believe it

[swoopem]

If I was rich and wanted to start paying players could I ask for their Venmo's and pay them claiming NIL?

Edit: when I get rich

[rocket surgeon]

Like I said, MU is in a world of hurt with NIL. Maybe da teem kould appear in a Skidoo commercial, aina?

not to worry doc, another factor in the recruiting process just became, you may suck as a player, but if ya got a bod people want to jump the bones for, look good in yoga panties, the pay can be pretty good. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/22/nil-deals-female-college-athletes/

[ATL MU Warrior]

not to worry doc, another factor in the recruiting process just became, you may suck as a player, but if ya got a bod people want to jump the bones for, look good in yoga panties, the pay can be pretty good. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/22/nil-deals-female-college-athletes/

linking to fake news?  shame on you...stick to your guns.

[Uncle Rico]

not to worry doc, another factor in the recruiting process just became, you may suck as a player, but if ya got a bod people want to jump the bones for, look good in yoga panties, the pay can be pretty good. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/22/nil-deals-female-college-athletes/

9.5 of 10 for the sexism

[ChuckyChip]

If I was rich and wanted to start paying players could I ask for their Venmo's and pay them claiming NIL?

Edit: when I get rich

Yep. That's what former basketball walk on Mat Ishbia is doing at Michigan State.  His company, United Wholesale Mortgage, is going to pay every Spartan men's basketball and football player $500/month, in exchange for "marketing" his company on their social media pages.  That's 133 players being paid $6,000 per year each ($798,000 total).

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/09/08/michigan-state-football-men-basketball-stipends-mat-ishbia/5761440001/

[oldwarrior81]

I'm still sticking with the belief that LSU gymnast Livvy Dunne will out earn them all.
Possibly multi-million per year.

As far as I know, she's the only collegiate athlete to sign with WME (William Morris/Endeavor)
They represent a good number of NFL athletes, Matthew Stafford, Christian McCaffrey, DeAndre Hopkins

But their big hitters are in Hollywood and Musicians; Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Jessica Alba, Kate Beckinsale, Hugh Jackman, Whoopie Goldberg, Jake Gyllenhaal, Adam Sandler, Eddie Vedder, Adele, Alicia Keys........

[Silkk the Shaka]

Yep. That's what former basketball walk on Mat Ishbia is doing at Michigan State.  His company, United Wholesale Mortgage, is going to pay every Spartan men's basketball and football player $500/month, in exchange for "marketing" his company on their social media pages.  That's 133 players being paid $6,000 per year each ($798,000 total).

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/michigan-state/spartans/2021/09/08/michigan-state-football-men-basketball-stipends-mat-ishbia/5761440001/

Much more cost effective to do this for a hoops team with 1/10th the # of players. Let's get it going!

[Billy Hoyle]

not to worry doc, another factor in the recruiting process just became, you may suck as a player, but if ya got a bod people want to jump the bones for, look good in yoga panties, the pay can be pretty good. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/22/nil-deals-female-college-athletes/

exactly. Becca Ripley, a redshirt senior from UCF has averaged a solid .5 ppg over career in which she has played eight games...and has earned six figures for endorsement deals. https://www.instagram.com/beccaripley/?hl=en

[Uncle Rico]

exactly. Becca Ripley, a redshirt senior from UCF has averaged a solid .5 ppg over career in which she has played eight games...and has earned six figures for endorsement deals. https://www.instagram.com/beccaripley/?hl=en

So?

[Billy Hoyle]

So?

nothing wrong with it, IMO. Proving Rocket's point (and I thought the WaPo editorial was ridiculous).

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

nothing wrong with it, IMO. Proving Rocket's point (and I thought the WaPo editorial was ridiculous).

Why?

[Billy Hoyle]

Why?

The girl is taking advantage of her assets and making money off of it. Just because some editorial writer doesn't like the fact attractive women are the biggest beneficiaries of NIL doesn't mean it's a horrible program. I found it amusing that the author kind of obscured the athletic feats of the Cavinder Twins and instead is acting shocked that businesses want to do business with attractive athletes, some of whom are quite good.

I worked with a kid, a mediocre, small college athlete who did a short Tik Tok video of himself shirtless, making a face while reciting a movie line. This happened during the shutdown. He left school to be in some Tik Tok house and now has 30 million followers and commands 12x more for a sponsored post than Tom Brady does and is getting his own clothing line. Sex sold there too. 

[Billy Hoyle]

The girl is taking advantage of her assets and making money off of it. Just because some editorial writer doesn't like the fact attractive women are the biggest beneficiaries of NIL doesn't mean it's a horrible program. I found it amusing that the author kind of obscured the athletic feats of the Cavinder Twins and instead is acting shocked that businesses want to do business with attractive athletes, some of whom are quite good. What is she proposing, quotas for unattractive or athletes who don't have a traditional fit body?

I worked with a kid, a mediocre, small college athlete who did a short Tik Tok video of himself shirtless, making a face while reciting a movie line. This happened during the shutdown. He left school to be in some Tik Tok house and now has 30 million followers and commands 12x more for a sponsored post than Tom Brady does and is getting his own clothing line. Sex sold there too.