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Author Topic: What's the word on Garcia?  (Read 63316 times)

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #425 on: June 24, 2021, 02:24:04 PM »
Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, but Tennessee freshman Keon Johnson recorded a max vertical jump of 48 inches Wednesday to break the NBA Draft Combine record in the drill.

Beating Zac McCall's previous record of 47.75 inches
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #426 on: June 24, 2021, 04:50:17 PM »
Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, but Tennessee freshman Keon Johnson recorded a max vertical jump of 48 inches Wednesday to break the NBA Draft Combine record in the drill.
That's positively Ners-like

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #427 on: June 24, 2021, 05:33:44 PM »

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #428 on: June 24, 2021, 08:11:07 PM »
Didn't want to start a new thread just for this, but Tennessee freshman Keon Johnson recorded a max vertical jump of 48 inches Wednesday to break the NBA Draft Combine record in the drill.

A 48??  That's gotta be in the highest of all-time?  I mean at the NBA combine.....Humpback Whales have a 600 inch vert..  :)
« Last Edit: June 24, 2021, 08:14:07 PM by MuggsyB »

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #429 on: June 24, 2021, 08:17:11 PM »
That's positively Ners-like

Love it, ATL.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #430 on: June 25, 2021, 05:05:20 PM »
He is entering the portal and keeping all options open

https://twitter.com/dawson23lee/status/1408545606998634497?s=21

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #431 on: June 25, 2021, 05:14:23 PM »
I’m kind of over Dawson Garcia at this point if I’m being honest.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #432 on: June 25, 2021, 05:16:57 PM »
I’m kind of over Dawson Garcia at this point if I’m being honest.

Agreed. String the program along chasing what he wanted to hear and then enters the portal. Let's move on.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #433 on: June 25, 2021, 05:22:09 PM »
He is entering the portal and keeping all options open

https://twitter.com/dawson23lee/status/1408545606998634497?s=21

The wording of the Tweet makes it sound like Marquette is his last choice.  Just worded like that I think.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #434 on: June 25, 2021, 05:33:18 PM »
Can’t blame him. Play 1 more season in college I’d want to win too. Isn’t gonna do that at Marquette next season.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #435 on: June 25, 2021, 05:58:32 PM »
Can’t blame him. Play 1 more season in college I’d want to win too. Isn’t gonna do that at Marquette next season.

Hopefully all our best players won’t think the same way on a yearly basis.  We will be a perpetually bad minor league feeder team.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #436 on: June 25, 2021, 06:21:12 PM »
Can’t blame him. Play 1 more season in college I’d want to win too. Isn’t gonna do that at Marquette next season.

It’s a smart move for Garcia to consider all options. Although, winning in college is definitely lower on his priority list. Just look at his finalists a year ago. 

Marquette: no postseason
Memphis: NIT
Indiana: no postseason
Minnesota: no postseason

He’s looking to be a featured player and the only reason he came here was because Wojo pitched him on Ellenson level usage. Not sure that would continue to be the case with Shaka. I’ll predict he either stays here or ends up a gopher.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #437 on: June 25, 2021, 06:22:28 PM »
He is entering the portal and keeping all options open

https://twitter.com/dawson23lee/status/1408545606998634497?s=21

Minnesota. Ben Johnson has TC AAU ties and hired local AAU guys. They've been working on Garcia since Johnson was hired.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #438 on: June 25, 2021, 06:58:26 PM »
He is entering the portal and keeping all options open

https://twitter.com/dawson23lee/status/1408545606998634497?s=21

Ugh. But Shaka has a solid track record of developing bigs. Maybe Dawson comes back.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #439 on: June 25, 2021, 07:08:31 PM »
Next dude up, hey?
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #440 on: June 25, 2021, 07:22:05 PM »
He is entering the portal and keeping all options open

https://twitter.com/dawson23lee/status/1408545606998634497?s=21

He gone. Shame. If he was willing to put in the work here he'd be a lotto.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #441 on: June 25, 2021, 07:32:30 PM »
He's looking for a better golden opportunity
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #442 on: June 25, 2021, 07:33:22 PM »
It’s a smart move for Garcia to consider all options. Although, winning in college is definitely lower on his priority list. Just look at his finalists a year ago. 

Marquette: no postseason
Memphis: NIT
Indiana: no postseason
Minnesota: no postseason

He’s looking to be a featured player and the only reason he came here was because Wojo pitched him on Ellenson level usage. Not sure that would continue to be the case with Shaka. I’ll predict he either stays here or ends up a gopher.

Marquette was a lock for the 2020 NCAA Tournament - 97 out of 97 in Bracket Mateix, with the average seed being a 9.

So while you’re technically correct, the same “no postseason” could have been said about Gonzaga, Kansas, Baylor, Duke, Nova, Dayton, Michigan State, Kentucky and, well, the entire top 50 that year.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #443 on: June 25, 2021, 07:41:17 PM »
I’m kind of over Dawson Garcia at this point if I’m being honest.

It’s fine for you and others to be “over” Garcia, and DJ too, for that matter. You feel what you feel, and you’re entitled to that.

But IMHO we’d have been an NCAA tourney team with them being coached by Shaka and supported by an improved group around them, and we probably have little chance without them.

And that seems a little bit of an odd stance given how much people complain about us having no postseason success the last 8 years.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #444 on: June 25, 2021, 07:50:31 PM »
He gone. Shame. If he was willing to put in the work here he'd be a lotto.

Really? He can’t do that anywhere else?

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #445 on: June 25, 2021, 07:51:42 PM »
Our record last year was 13-14. It is right in our face every time one goes to this website.

We have a new coach with an exciting vision, and what appears to be some players with commentary skills. Looking forward to the season with the guys who want to buy into our Coaches vision for MU.

There are going to be some players who have explored the NBA Process and may want to come to our program ,as well as players who are waiting to see how the NBA process plays out for others , before they make their own transfer decisions. Those players are going to be choosing a school based on what they feel is best for them. Still plenty of time to finish out our roster with some more quality players as MU has a lot to offer right now. 

I think with the new transfer rules, we literally have to be looking at rosters one year at a time. We had some players return , some transfer, some go pro and some entering the portal .  Overall I like where MU is at, and with a few key pickups we could be in a very good position.

 

 

 
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #446 on: June 25, 2021, 07:53:15 PM »
Time to dig out and put on the 70s era Movin On jeans.
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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #447 on: June 25, 2021, 08:07:07 PM »
Really? He can’t do that anywhere else?

He can, but I think leaving (which I expect) is a particularly dumb move. If he wants to go to the NBA, Shaka will have sent 6 bigs to the league since 2017 after this draft. Dawson was the leading G League combine scorer and didn't get a NBA Combine invite, which means he needs to work his defense, which is Shaka's specialty. At Marquette, he'll be the offensive focal point, where he's likely to look he'll just be another option. He will be the centerpiece of NIL options here, which also won't likely be the case elsewhere.

Dawson played for a coach that has done poorly advancing his players to the NBA and sucked at defense. When Shaka was hired, DG basically won the lottery in terms of matching the coach with the ability to develop his weaknesses. And he's going to walk away from that.

I don't think anywhere he is likely to go is a better launching pad than here. Not the blue bloods like Kentucky or UNC where he's likely to end up, and definitely not Minnesota where he would join maybe the worst high major team in the country.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #448 on: June 25, 2021, 08:29:11 PM »
He can, but I think leaving (which I expect) is a particularly dumb move. If he wants to go to the NBA, Shaka will have sent 6 bigs to the league since 2017 after this draft. Dawson was the leading G League combine scorer and didn't get a NBA Combine invite, which means he needs to work his defense, which is Shaka's specialty. At Marquette, he'll be the offensive focal point, where he's likely to look he'll just be another option. He will be the centerpiece of NIL options here, which also won't likely be the case elsewhere.

Dawson played for a coach that has done poorly advancing his players to the NBA and sucked at defense. When Shaka was hired, DG basically won the lottery in terms of matching the coach with the ability to develop his weaknesses. And he's going to walk away from that.

I don't think anywhere he is likely to go is a better launching pad than here. Not the blue bloods like Kentucky or UNC where he's likely to end up, and definitely not Minnesota where he would join maybe the worst high major team in the country.

If you excel at a big school, you put yourself in a better position for the next level.

I’d love for him to stay here, but it doesn’t really elevate his profile if he has a similar season here as he did last year and MU is a mediocre team.

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Re: What's the word on Garcia?
« Reply #449 on: June 25, 2021, 08:41:21 PM »
He can, but I think leaving (which I expect) is a particularly dumb move. If he wants to go to the NBA, Shaka will have sent 6 bigs to the league since 2017 after this draft. Dawson was the leading G League combine scorer and didn't get a NBA Combine invite, which means he needs to work his defense, which is Shaka's specialty. At Marquette, he'll be the offensive focal point, where he's likely to look he'll just be another option. He will be the centerpiece of NIL options here, which also won't likely be the case elsewhere.

Dawson played for a coach that has done poorly advancing his players to the NBA and sucked at defense. When Shaka was hired, DG basically won the lottery in terms of matching the coach with the ability to develop his weaknesses. And he's going to walk away from that.

I don't think anywhere he is likely to go is a better launching pad than here. Not the blue bloods like Kentucky or UNC where he's likely to end up, and definitely not Minnesota where he would join maybe the worst high major team in the country.

It is his decision and his choice, but I also concur his plan, if you call it that, was not particularly well thought out.

Dawson was graded a 2nd Round pick, at best, when he declared.  Yes, you can get paid a year earlier, but if you find yourself in a spot where you will not have ability to develop (and eventually cash in at the NBA level) you can be stuck in purgatory and then out of the league.

If he does transfer to another school now, which I think it is clear he will now, you made the decision after many rosters have become filled and your options are much more limited than what it was just several weeks ago.  Again, not well thought out.

If he does end up at Minnesota, who is too rebuilding, is playing for an unproven head coach really put you in better position to elevate your game to make yourself more attractive for the NBA.  Possibly, but unlikely.

Playing for a proven head coach with bigs and defense, and leading the team to a better record than the year before, would, IMO, immensely helped his development much more.  Oh well, his decision, his choice.

I said it when Shaka was hired, but for the benefit of the long-term development of the program, it remains in the best interest to have as many holdovers, leftovers, etc. to pursue other opportunities as possible. Dawson would have been one of our best players, no doubt.  But his focus would be on the NBA next year.  I'd imagine that would negatively affect the culture Shaka is already hard at work instilling.