Where are with with Morsell?

[MuggsyB]

Indeed.

When do we get back to at least Buzz levels Tower?  Ya never know how much time we have left. 

[MU82]

Garcia is leaving?

I have no earthly idea. Others seem to think he's already gone. I meant to word that with an "if."

[Tha Hound]

Removing the blue and gold glasses.... I don't miss Wojo and I like Shaka and want nothing but success for him, as his success is MU's success.    But.....

If you lay Wojo's record at MU next to Shaka's record at Texas, they are indistinguishable.   
This is a near total roster rebuild, highlighted by 10 players with 0-1 years of college experience. 
None of the recruits are 5 star, none of the transfers are reputed to be program changers.   
Lots of potential, no known quantities.    Way too many ifs.   

I look at this coming year as a building block.   Nothing more, nothing less.    I want to see the foundation for success put in place.   If Garcia and Morsell both come, MU may get to .500 or even into NIT talk.    If neither come and MU runs with the current 11 other players, I am not sure I see 12 season wins.   But it is only mid June and maybe somebody makes a huge leap or is far better than their previous ranking. 

21-22 is all about the process.    Not wins and losses.      Go, Shaka!

The Shaka vs wojo record talking point has been (imo) thoroughly debunked on this forum on multiple occasions. There is zero comparison between the two when you include context.

[StillAWarrior]

If you lay Wojo's record at MU next to Shaka's record at Texas, they are indistinguishable.   

The Shaka vs wojo record talking point has been (imo) thoroughly debunked on this forum on multiple occasions. There is zero comparison between the two when you include context.

This is such classic 'Scoop - two completely hyperbolic positions from opposite extremes.

I'll take a stab at being the voice of reason:

Of course they can be distinguished. Easily. There is a lot of context that one can cite that makes a difference. I'll concede that their number of wins in the NCAA tournament are indistinguishable.

Of course there is some comparison between the two. Actually there are quite a lot of similarities. But, I also agree that when considered in context, Shaka's performance was better.

[Hards Alumni]

This is such classic 'Scoop - two completely hyperbolic positions from opposite extremes.

I'll take a stab at being the voice of reason:

Of course they can be distinguished. Easily. There is a lot of context that one can cite that makes a difference. I'll concede that their number of wins in the NCAA tournament are indistinguishable.

Of course there is some comparison between the two. Actually there are quite a lot of similarities. But, I also agree that when considered in context, Shaka's performance was better.

100%

[tower912]

Agreed.

[4everwarriors]

Indeed.

Knot a bad cite wen job huntin', hey?

[MU82]

This is such classic 'Scoop - two completely hyperbolic positions from opposite extremes.

I'll take a stab at being the voice of reason:

Of course they can be distinguished. Easily. There is a lot of context that one can cite that makes a difference. I'll concede that their number of wins in the NCAA tournament are indistinguishable.

Of course there is some comparison between the two. Actually there are quite a lot of similarities. But, I also agree that when considered in context, Shaka's performance was better.

Well stated, SAW.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Says it is Marquette or DePaul for Darryl

https://twitter.com/goldeneagles_mu/status/1404060135631241220?s=21

[MU82]

Says it is Marquette or DePaul for Darryl

https://twitter.com/goldeneagles_mu/status/1404060135631241220?s=21

I'd be more impressed if those college basketball experts didn't spell Morsell's name wrong. Twice. Including in the headline.

[MarquetteMike1977]

ESPN has Darryl ranked as the #42nd Ranked Transfer in the country today.

[Stretchdeltsig]

With Garcia and Morsell, I see a top half of the Big East finish, and a tourney bid.

Don't underestimate the positive impact of not having Wojo patrolling the sideline.

Strongly agree. We now have a really good game coach. That will make a big difference.

[BCHoopster]

Lost to Abilene Christian last year with his team having like 21 or 22 turnovers, so I am not sold yet he is a better coach.
Both coaches were not great the last 7 years.

[brewcity77]

Lost to Abilene Christian last year with his team having like 21 or 22 turnovers, so I am not sold yet he is a better coach.
Both coaches were not great the last 7 years.

Shaka's teams were 3 possessions away from winning 3 NCAA games. Also won an NIT & B12 tourney. I'll take that over a pair of 19-point losses, an NIT quarterfinal, and zero Big East Title Game appearances.

[BCHoopster]

Yes history has shown he has done better, let's see how he does here, no guarantee.  I hope he has good as Buzz did.

[Mu8891]

Shaka's teams at UT were better ..
But not by much.

He did not win an NCAA game.  If we are sitting here in 7 years, w / no NCAA wins, he will be being shown the door too ( even if he wins an NIT ).

Shaka is here because he did not succeed at Texas.  I hope he does better at MU

[BCHoopster]

Thanks for giving me some historical proof.  I new he did not win a NCAA  tourney game and was really run out of Texas after that ridiculous loss to AC

[Johnny B]

tired thread. until theres legit news why bother

[tower912]

Wojo:  128-95 (.574)   Conference 59-68  (.465)
Shaka at Texas 109-86 (.559) Conf  51-56 (.477)

I will not miss Wojo and wish Shaka all the best, as his success is MU's success.   

[The Lens]

Wojo:  128-95 (.574)   Conference 59-68  (.465)
Shaka at Texas 109-86 (.559) Conf  51-56 (.477)

I will not miss Wojo and wish Shaka all the best, as his success is MU's success.   

Shaka's best player had cancer
Wojo's best player...

DON'T DO IT LENS, DON'T DO IT

[Herman Cain]

When Shaka came on board, I moved  over to the slurpin' side of the street. As far as I am concerned everything is going swimmingly  so far. Come on in the waters fine. 

[The Sultan]

tired thread. until theres legit news why bother

You're participation here is voluntary.

[willie warrior]

When Shaka came on board, I moved  over to the slurpin' side of the street. As far as I am concerned everything is going swimmingly  so far. Come on in the waters fine.

But keep a sharp eye out for large protruding fins cutting through the water!

[NCMUFan]

Or riptides.

[Scoop Snoop]

Shaka's teams at UT were better ..
But not by much.

He did not win an NCAA game.  If we are sitting here in 7 years, w / no NCAA wins, he will be being shown the door too ( even if he wins an NIT ).

Shaka is here because he did not succeed at Texas.  I hope he does better at MU

Disagree. Purely for sake of discussion, let's say that we had a H&H with UT during Shaka's 6 years there. I think MU would have gone either 1-1 or 2-0 in 18'-19' but other than that one season (or 80% of it) how would the other 10 games play out?

Edit: MU had to deal with Nova but take into account that UT faced KU, TT, and Baylor. When comparing Shaka's record to Wojo's, its disingenuous  to ignore UT's opponents.