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Quote from: Scoop Snoop on June 19, 2021, 09:43:16 AM
Disagree. Purely for sake of discussion, let's say that we had a H&H with UT during Shaka's 6 years there. I think MU would have gone either 1-1 or 2-0 in 18'-19' but other than that one season (or 80% of it) how would the other 10 games play out?

Edit: MU had to deal with Nova but take into account that UT faced KU, TT, and Baylor. When comparing Shaka's record to Wojo's, its disingenuous  to ignore UT's opponents.

TT has only been good for a few years not his entire tenure. But KU and Baylor are good points Oklahoma may be better example than TT tbh.
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Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2021, 07:39:06 PM
Wojo:  128-95 (.574)   Conference 59-68  (.465)
Shaka at Texas 109-86 (.559) Conf  51-56 (.477)

I will not miss Wojo and wish Shaka all the best, as his success is MU's success.   

Wojo win pct with Howard:

.626 (.542 BE)

Wojo win pct without Howard:

.500 (.462 BE)

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on June 19, 2021, 10:49:59 AM
Wojo win pct with Howard:

.626 (.542 BE)

Wojo win pct without Howard:

.500 (.462 BE)

It's rougher when you remove Henry as well.
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Tha Hound

Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2021, 07:39:06 PM
Wojo:  128-95 (.574)   Conference 59-68  (.465)
Shaka at Texas 109-86 (.559) Conf  51-56 (.477)

I will not miss Wojo and wish Shaka all the best, as his success is MU's success.   

Ah yes the classic "wojo-guy" record-reductionism. We hate context here on scoop.

Its DJOver

There are arguments to be made on both sides.  We all saw first hand the lack of adjustments/hero-ball/constant roster turnover here, but if Shaka were the grand slam hire many seem to think, he would have had more success at UT.  I watched none of his games at UT, but I know that he had multiple future NBAers and still was only around .500 in conference.  Is the conference tougher? Yes, but he also had more talent.  We've all heard the "show me what you can do in March" argument against Wojo, and Shaka does have a FF, but he will in all likelihood go a decade without a tourney win, and that's certainly not a green flag.  I think Shaka has a higher ceiling, and I think he can have success here, but let's not pretend like there aren't holes in his resume.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Dawson Rental

What's the point in comparing Shaka's record with Wojo's record?

Now comparing Shaka's record to Porter Moser's record, there be some point to that.

For 2021-22, Moser was in the possibility set, Wojo was not.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Lens

The difference for me is in talking to staff, they're working 15 hour days again.  There's an energy & buzz in that building that hasn't been felt since, well, Buzz. 

We're back.   
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

MU82

So ... where are we with Morsell?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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Quote from: The Lens on June 19, 2021, 11:54:05 AM
The difference for me is in talking to staff, they're working 15 hour days again.  There's an energy & buzz in that building that hasn't been felt since, well, Buzz. 

We're back.
Lens I love your optimism!   That's good to hear about the energy in the building.  Hopefully Garcia and Morsell can sense it as well.

Mu8891

Lens ...

We're " back " ... cuz the staff is allegedly working 15 hour days ( I
don't believe that ) ??

Before they have played one game?  That's ridiculous.  As said above ... if Shaka was the Savior, he would not have been tossed out by UT

MUEng92

Quote from: MU82 on June 19, 2021, 12:18:07 PM
So ... where are we with Morsell?

It's hard to believe we are coming up on what, like the 45th anniversary of MUScoop and there still isn't a notification on the main screen that the thread title has nothing to do with what is currently being discussed on a thread.

On second thought maybe the notification should be active when the title IS what is being discussed, then there would be fewer notifications to look for.

pbiflyer

Quote from: MU82 on June 19, 2021, 12:18:07 PM
So ... where are we with Morsell?

Maybe there should be a separate thread about that.

79Warrior

Quote from: Mu8891 on June 19, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
Lens ...

We're " back " ... cuz the staff is allegedly working 15 hour days ( I
don't believe that ) ??

Before they have played one game?  That's ridiculous.  As said above ... if Shaka was the Savior, he would not have been tossed out by UT

When did Texas "toss him out"? Adding your own BS to the story?

MU82

Quote from: Mu8891 on June 19, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
Lens ...

We're " back " ... cuz the staff is allegedly working 15 hour days ( I
don't believe that ) ??

Before they have played one game?  That's ridiculous.  As said above ... if Shaka was the Savior, he would not have been tossed out by UT

If Buzz was VaTech's Savior, he would not have been tossed out by MU
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Mu8891

79 -

Ok ... pushed out ?

Asked to leave ?   Happy to have him Exit ?  How would u describe it ?

Every single story / report / published article indicated they wanted him out so they could hire Beard - which they did
immediately.

It is what it is.

jfp61

Quote from: Mu8891 on June 20, 2021, 04:05:08 PM
79 -

Ok ... pushed out ?

Asked to leave ?   Happy to have him Exit ?  How would u describe it ?

Every single story / report / published article indicated they wanted him out so they could hire Beard - which they did
immediately.

It is what it is.


And it was really really good for marquette, the ended up not having to pay any buyout. All of Shaka's assistants ended up with jobs, granted all came here except one went to Oklahoma

The Lens

Quote from: Mu8891 on June 19, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
Lens ...

We're " back " ... cuz the staff is allegedly working 15 hour days ( I
don't believe that ) ??

Before they have played one game?  That's ridiculous.  As said above ... if Shaka was the Savior, he would not have been tossed out by UT

Dude if you want to be taken seriously on this website, lose the ...

The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Mu8891 on June 19, 2021, 05:02:42 PM
Lens ...

We're " back " ... cuz the staff is allegedly working 15 hour days ( I
don't believe that ) ??

Before they have played one game?  That's ridiculous.  As said above ... if Shaka was the Savior, he would not have been tossed out by UT

Do you have ANY IDEA what happened to the last basketball coach "tossed out" by Texas?  I'm betting not.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

The Lens

Quote from: 4everDawson on June 22, 2021, 02:59:34 PM
Do you have ANY IDEA what happened to the last basketball coach "tossed out" by Texas?  I'm betting not.

2023 Final Four is in Houston...a MU / Tennessee Championship game would be delicious.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

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MU82

Quote from: DienerTime34 on June 22, 2021, 04:00:32 PM
Where are we with Morsell?

What a ridiculous question to ask in this thread. Shame on you!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MarquetteMike1977


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"If I was a betting man, I'd put my house on it," the source said. "He's been in contact with Shaka [Smart[ for a while now, really likes what he's been presented with and ultimately just wants to see what he can do elsewhere."

Viper

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on June 26, 2021, 04:07:52 PM

"If I was a betting man, I'd put my house on it," the source said. "He's been in contact with Shaka [Smart[ for a while now, really likes what he's been presented with and ultimately just wants to see what he can do elsewhere."
if Morsell signs and is good, Lewis takes a step up, Elliott has health, this season may not necessarily be bad. Joplin can ball. A couple other new comers might excel under Shaka. Yeah, some 'if's', but I'm optimistic. Should be good enough to beat Judas U.
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https://www.barttorvik.com/rosters22.php?team=Marquette&year=2022

95th right now without Dawson, and Morsell. I think Morsell will get us to about 80.   Minnesota needs alot of help.  Dawson wont get them into the NIT.

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