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JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on January 13, 2022, 06:02:20 PM
Speaking of repeating the same thing, ad nauseum..., check the mirror, buddy.

Ahh the classic "I know you are but what am I".  Yes, I'm SOOOO well known for banging the same tired drums on this board  :o

Same time, same place tomorrow with another insightful tidbit on dysfunction when someone posts something about the Giants coaching search.

HouWarrior

Quote from: Jockey on January 13, 2022, 06:03:59 PM
I agree. He did an outstanding job to get 4 wins despite losing Watt and Watson.
And Hopkins
Really the unwinding of texans began with 1) Bill Obrien getting involved in personnel and 2) cal McNair taking over for dead dad ...both thought hiring NE Pats former team Chaplain and involving him with players was good and Christian....it really turned off most of good players...the skid began ( examples: OTDuane Brown giveaway followed by multiple draft 1st picks to miami and huge contract to get replacement OT Tunsil, JJ watt -outright freedom release, WR Hopkins huge giveaway for backup RB; the QB watson saga...etc etc)

The Texans are at least 3-4 years and two more failed coaches away from a rebuild, if ever under Moron Cal
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

The Sultan

Culley was never going to be anything more than a placeholder.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on January 13, 2022, 06:18:56 PM
Ahh the classic "I know you are but what am I".  Yes, I'm SOOOO well known for banging the same tired drums on this board  :o

Same time, same place tomorrow with another insightful tidbit on dysfunction when someone posts something about the Giants coaching search.

It would be something if you were as smart as you believe yourself to be.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 13, 2022, 06:32:36 PM
Culley was never going to be anything more than a placeholder.
Looks like Culley will end up getting paid $22 Million for being a placeholder . Good work if you can get it.
https://sports.yahoo.com/texans-david-culley-firing-22-million-head-coach-nfl-011912716.html
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on January 13, 2022, 07:54:45 PM
It would be something if you were as smart as you believe yourself to be.

Straight to irrelevant personal insults cause someone dares disagree with you.  Cute

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 13, 2022, 06:32:36 PM
Culley was never going to be anything more than a placeholder.

Then why give him a $17 million buyout?

The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on January 14, 2022, 06:58:42 AM
Then why give him a $17 million buyout?

It's the Texans. I don't know. But he was never going to be the long term guy there.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 14, 2022, 07:21:28 AM
It's the Texans. I don't know. But he was never going to be the long term guy there.

I'm not sure what you mean by long term, but I suspect what could be going on here is that a head coach unexpectedly hit the market, and this head coach is someone who the disgruntled franchise player has expressed a desire to play for.

The Sultan

Could be.  Or the Texans are incompetent.  Or both.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 14, 2022, 08:35:38 AM
Could be.  Or the Texans are incompetent.  Or both.

Sure. This is speculation on my part, but I don't think it's wild speculation.
I would add that Flores and the Texans GM worked together for 15+ years in the Patriots organization.

Jockey

#3611
Quote from: JWags85 on January 13, 2022, 08:36:36 PM
Straight to irrelevant personal insults cause someone dares disagree with you.  Cute

Except you didn't disagree with me. You just were being a d*ck. If you disagree the the owners of certain teams are dysfunctional, make an intelligent arguement showing where I am wrong. That is the point of boards like these.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on January 14, 2022, 08:55:37 AM
Except you didn't disagree with me. You just were being a d*ck. If you disagree the the owners of certain teams are dysfunctional, make an intelligent arguement showing where I am wrong. That is the point of boards like these.

I disagreed with your incessant need to repeat that point daily.  Of course certain ownership groups are dysfunctional, including the Bears despite you repeatedly claiming I can't find fault with the McCaskey's idiocy.  But it's become your pet point you think is unique or innovative so you have to interject it in every offseason discussion point here.  We get it.

I'd say the same if someone kept repeating that Marquette wasn't a BE contender until they beat Nova after every win or if someone wanted to keep rehashing a point about the Hornets being closer to the lottery than the Nets

Dish

The Vikings are totally going to hire Lane Kiffin.

The Sultan

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 14, 2022, 01:23:49 PM
The Vikings are totally going to hire Lane Kiffin.


I think that would be a fantastic hire for them.  And I am not being sarcastic about that.  He was too young and too immature when he got the Raiders' gig.  But the guy knows offense.  And I doubt he's getting Ole Miss much further than this year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on January 14, 2022, 01:33:28 PM

I think that would be a fantastic hire for them.  And I am not being sarcastic about that.  He was too young and too immature when he got the Raiders' gig.  But the guy knows offense.  And I doubt he's getting Ole Miss much further than this year.

I don't disagree.  He's had a lot of learning experiences and growing since then.  He's had far more HC experience than Kingsbury, who is doing alright for himself, and Id argue he's a better offensive mind.

Also, I think he learned from Saban the value in putting good assistants around you

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on January 14, 2022, 03:51:00 PM
I don't disagree.  He's had a lot of learning experiences and growing since then.  He's had far more HC experience than Kingsbury, who is doing alright for himself, and Id argue he's a better offensive mind.

Also, I think he learned from Saban the value in putting good assistants around you

I'd instantly become a Vikings fan if they hired Lane Kiffin
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 14, 2022, 04:00:22 PM
I'd instantly become a Vikings fan if they hired Lane Kiffin

He needs a QB, but Kiffin with Dalvin Cook, Jefferson and Thielen has gotta be mouth watering for Vikings fan and a wild departure from Zimmer

Uncle Rico

Quote from: JWags85 on January 14, 2022, 04:15:21 PM
He needs a QB, but Kiffin with Dalvin Cook, Jefferson and Thielen has gotta be mouth watering for Vikings fan and a wild departure from Zimmer

I'd hope we'd get the Lane that's at Ole Miss.  A little cocky and fun.  Don't want a buttoned down version because he's in the NFL.  I don't know if he'd win but if he did, I know one fanbase that would pull their hair out losing to his team
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

There are currently 3 times as many white head coaches named Sean in the NFL than the total number of black coaches.

Does the Rooney Rule just provide cover for teams wanting to continue hiring white coaches since there are no more current black head coaches than when the rule was instigated?

Pakuni

A lot of people around the Alabama program think Lane is first in line when Saban retires, with Saban's full blessing.
Despite their sideline interactions and the circumstances of Kiffin's departure from Bama, apparently there's a lot of mutual respect there

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on January 14, 2022, 04:42:55 PM
A lot of people around the Alabama program think Lane is first in line when Saban retires, with Saban's full blessing.
Despite their sideline interactions and the circumstances of Kiffin's departure from Bama, apparently there's a lot of mutual respect there

Following Saban is going to be a tough gig.  I don't think what he's done can be repeated.  Matt Hinton who has written for a number of publications wrote something about half a decade ago that still resonates with me about the nature of college football dynasties.  I can't find a link to where he wrote it, but it went something like this and why dynasties are hard to maintain beyond 5 years or so.

- Assistant Coaches start getting poached and it becomes harder to keep top assistants and find capable or equal replacements.

- Titles are won with high 4* and 5* talent.  That talent finds the field early and leaves early.  Eventually, you become perpetually young and have more recruiting misses than not.

- A competitior arises within your league to challenge your supremacy.  Oregon/Stanford challenging USC in the mid-2000's.  Baylor/TCU challenging OU and overtaking Texas in the Big XII post-2010.  This one seems especially true in the lawless SEC, yet...

Saban has cycled through assistants at an incredible rate and not missed a beat.  An argument could be made this is a plus.  Fresh ideas can often eliminate stagnation.

Bama stays young but rarely misses and most importantly, have been finding great college QBS

Finally, they've withstood challenges from LSU and Auburn to their supremacy out west.  Dysfunction has helped in many cases.  Is Georgia the school to take the mantle?  Early looks into 2022 see a step back for UGA and a Bama team loaded with returning talent. 

Saban is the best college coach ever.  I'll be very surprised to see anyone ever match his run at Bama
Guster is for Lovers

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Jockey on January 14, 2022, 04:27:58 PM
There are currently 3 times as many white head coaches named Sean in the NFL than the total number of black coaches.

Does the Rooney Rule just provide cover for teams wanting to continue hiring white coaches since there are no more current black head coaches than when the rule was instigated?

well ain't that just a tasty nugget of information we've all been just dying to hear about-seriously??
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: rocket ALM surgeon on January 14, 2022, 07:04:41 PM
well ain't that just a tasty nugget of information we've all been just dying to hear about-seriously??

Ironically, this is usually how people respond to your posts.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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