2021-2022 NFL Season

[MU82]

Time out was dumb.

Decision to kick the FG might have been even dumber. At that point, literally the ONLY way the Raiders miss the playoffs is if the kick is blocked and returned for a TD.

I guess both teams deserve kudos for playing to win?

One of the weirdest situations I've seen, and a truly crazy end to a crazy NFL weekend.

[MUBurrow]

I just don't get the difference the timeout had on the Raiders strategy - after playing to win all game they shifted into playing for the tie in the last minute, then back to playing to win because they were mad about the TO?  I think that if Jacobs picks up that yardage, Chargers timeout or no timeout, theyre kicking that field goal.

[Billy Hoyle]

Here ya go...

https://twitter.com/billym_91/status/1480409566395387911?s=21

And now, the rest of the story

https://twitter.com/davebirkett/status/1480412488998998017

"We knew, no matter what, we didn't want a tie. We wanted to win the football game."

[GB Warrior]

I just don't get the difference the timeout had on the Raiders strategy - after playing to win all game they shifted into playing for the tie in the last minute, then back to playing to win because they were mad about the TO?  I think that if Jacobs picks up that yardage, Chargers timeout or no timeout, theyre kicking that field goal.

I don't think so either. There were 4 seconds on the playclock. Stop him and everyone goes away happy

[Dish]

And now, the rest of the story

https://twitter.com/davebirkett/status/1480412488998998017

"We knew, no matter what, we didn't want a tie. We wanted to win the football game."

Ekler: "Were you gonna kneel it?"
Sieg: "Yeah."

[MU82]

Ekler: "Were you gonna kneel it?"
Sieg: "Yeah."

I trust this exchange more than I trust whatever anybody (especially the coach) claims at a press conference.

[Jockey]

I don't think you ever intentionally play for a tie against a division rival unless you have to.

Would LaFleur & Rodgers play for a tie if it meant letting the Bears into the playoffs when you have the ability to knock them out? Not in a million years.

[Dish]

Crazy game, an all timer.

Now on to what should be a crazy round of playoffs.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I don't think you ever intentionally play for a tie against a division rival unless you have to.

Would LaFleur & Rodgers play for a tie if it meant letting the Bears into the playoffs when you have the ability to knock them out? Not in a million years.

Have you ever watched the Packers special teams?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

<Fart noise>
Kudos to the Raiders for playing to win. Blame Staley for thinking he's smarter than the average bear and getting burned by it.

Hmm, I was only half paying attention so I completely missed that it was the Chargers who called time out.

Given that, I will change my position to a neutral one.

[The Sultan]

Ekler: "Were you gonna kneel it?"
Sieg: "Yeah."

But they were in shotgun when they called the TO.  I mean, you *can* kneel from the shotgun I guess.

I guess when it comes down to it, the timeout wasn't the problem.  It was their inability to stop the run on the next play that was the problem.

[Pakuni]

Spelman and Zimmer out in Minnesota.

[Dish]

Nagy out.

[Dish]

Stunner: Flores OUT in Miami

[Dish]

Ryan Pace fired.

[JWags85]

Schefter reporting Pace fired as well.  Minutes after Peter Schrager was saying he'd have a role in selecting the new coach. 

[The Sultan]

Stunner: Flores OUT in Miami

This is ridiculous. 

[Jockey]

Stunner: Flores OUT in Miami

I think the record was misleading. I had put a list of the QBs they beat in their 7 game streak on Scoop. That didn't even count the 2 Wins over a rookie QB.

Still very surprising.

[The Sultan]

The team has little talent.  Miami was punching above their weight.

[Herman Cain]

I don't think you ever intentionally play for a tie against a division rival unless you have to.

Would LaFleur & Rodgers play for a tie if it meant letting the Bears into the playoffs when you have the ability to knock them out? Not in a million years.

The Steelers were delighted that the Raiders kicked the field goal. Now they are in the playoffs .

[The Sultan]

Is it fair to assume that the two NFC Divisional Round game will be on Sunday since two Wild Card games are on Sunday with another Monday night?

[cheebs09]

I think the record was misleading. I had put a list of the QBs they beat in their 7 game streak on Scoop. That didn't even count the 2 Wins over a rookie QB.

Still very surprising.

With the state of quarterbacking in the NFL, I feel you can do that with a few teams wins. Their losing streak came with Brissett under center for about half of them.

[JWags85]

Id be shocked if Flores doesn't get hired in this cycle

[CountryRoads]

I don't think you ever intentionally play for a tie against a division rival unless you have to.

Would LaFleur & Rodgers play for a tie if it meant letting the Bears into the playoffs when you have the ability to knock them out? Not in a million years.

Would the raiders have gotten a lower seed if they had just let the time run out and played for a tie? If so, then I think it makes sense to kick the field goal. If it was meaningless to their seed, then I think they voluntarily and unnecessarily opened themselves up to a potential disaster (blocked field goal, etc). Even though the chance of that is very small, it went from 100% in the playoffs to some value slightly lower than 100%. Maybe beating the division rival and knocking them out was worth the risk like you mentioned.

[Pakuni]

Would the raiders have gotten a lower seed if they had just let the time run out and played for a tie? If so, then I think it makes sense to kick the field goal. If it was meaningless to their seed, then I think they voluntarily and unnecessarily opened themselves up to a potential disaster (blocked field goal, etc). Even though the chance of that is very small, it went from 100% in the playoffs to some value slightly lower than 100%. Maybe beating the division rival and knocking them out was worth the risk like you mentioned.

Yes.
If they tied, they were the 7 seed playing at KC.
By winning, they became the 5 seed playing at Cincy.
So, there was incentive to win.