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Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 22, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
I honestly don't know who I'd vote for between Kupp and Taylor for OPOY. Both dudes have been awesome and clutch. I feel like I'd lean Taylor, but I love both their seasons. Really hard decision for me.

Do the Colts have the record they do without Taylor?  Doubt.

Do the Rams have the record they do without Kupp?  Less doubt.

IMO, between the two, it's Taylor.

Jockey

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 22, 2021, 02:31:17 PM
I honestly don't know who I'd vote for between Kupp and Taylor for OPOY. Both dudes have been awesome and clutch. I feel like I'd lean Taylor, but I love both their seasons. Really hard decision for me.

I would go for JT, but have no problem with anyone going for Kupp. Both are deserving.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Jockey on December 22, 2021, 03:39:08 PM
I would go for JT, but have no problem with anyone going for Kupp. Both are deserving.

I think it's JT.  I know RBs are supposed to be a dime a dozen nowadays but he's the best in the league and has a Henry-esque impact on his team
Guster is for Lovers

GB Warrior

Kupp, through 14 games, has basically had the season that Davante had last year (also 14 games, due to injury).

What differentiates Kupp from that? Is it that he overcame Matt Stafford (teal...I think)?

Herman Cain

It is interesting that both of the top MVP candidates , Rodgers and Brady, have had abysmal games against the Saints . Yet they have done well against the rest of the teams they have played .

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 22, 2021, 08:14:43 PM
It is interesting that both of the top MVP candidates , Rodgers and Brady, have had abysmal games against the Saints . Yet they have done well against the rest of the teams they have played .

Yeah, one of the few QBs to do well against the Saints this season was -- wait for it -- Sam Effen Darnold!

Interesting ... or crazy?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Given how banged up the Bucs are and that they're on the road, it's hard to believe they are 10.5-point favorites over the Panthers.

But then there's this -- the Panthers are 5-9, and they haven't covered once in any of their 9 losses.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

Prayers up for ESPN 1000 Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson, who is battling colon cancer (that has spread to his liver too). Jeff lost his wife to cancer (she was in her late 30's) a couple years ago, and Jeff is only 44 himself. He's got a 9 year old son, and I just can't fathom what Jeff and his son are going through.

Jockey

It's amazing how unfair life can be for some. He will be in my thoughts.

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 23, 2021, 02:16:20 PM
Prayers up for ESPN 1000 Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson, who is battling colon cancer (that has spread to his liver too). Jeff lost his wife to cancer (she was in her late 30's) a couple years ago, and Jeff is only 44 himself. He's got a 9 year old son, and I just can't fathom what Jeff and his son are going through.

Damn, that's rough. Jeff is good people.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

jficke13

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 23, 2021, 02:16:20 PM
Prayers up for ESPN 1000 Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson, who is battling colon cancer (that has spread to his liver too). Jeff lost his wife to cancer (she was in her late 30's) a couple years ago, and Jeff is only 44 himself. He's got a 9 year old son, and I just can't fathom what Jeff and his son are going through.

Unfathomable.

Dish

This Niners/Titans game has baffled all my football sensibilities.

The Sultan

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 23, 2021, 09:40:32 PM
This Niners/Titans game has baffled all my football sensibilities.

The Titans play calling is mind boggling.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

After watching that first quarter, I'm borderline stunned by the outcome of this game.

BM1090

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 23, 2021, 10:14:19 PM
After watching that first quarter, I'm borderline stunned by the outcome of this game.

I thought Tennessee would win pregame. Had them +3.5. Then watched the first half and didn't think there was any way they'd pull it out. Weird game.

Loose Cannon

Quote from: DegenerateDish on December 23, 2021, 02:16:20 PM
Prayers up for ESPN 1000 Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson, who is battling colon cancer (that has spread to his liver too). Jeff lost his wife to cancer (she was in her late 30's) a couple years ago, and Jeff is only 44 himself. He's got a 9 year old son, and I just can't fathom what Jeff and his son are going through.

Prayers up, Silent Heroes.
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

MU82

From The Athletic:

After tumultuous offseason, Packers GM Brian Gutekunst has shown why he's one of NFL's best executives

https://theathletic.com/3032169/2021/12/23/after-tumultuous-offseason-packers-gm-brian-gutekunst-has-shown-why-hes-one-of-nfls-best-executives/?source=weeklyemail&campaign=602288

Few people around the NFL took more heat this offseason than Packers general manager Brian Gutekunst. Because his three-time MVP quarterback didn't want to play for the organization anymore.

We'll save the discussion for who was most to blame for temporarily driving Aaron Rodgers away for another time. For now, let's discuss why Rodgers and Gutekunst have arrived at a point where the quarterback, deliberate in every move he makes, heartily embraced the GM before a recent practice.

In short, it's because Gutekunst is damn good at his job.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

Packers need to do what it takes to keep Rodgers.

Not sure what info MLF got on that challenge.

MU82

At least Baker Mayfield makes good commercials.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

CreightonWarrior

Rodgers: I waste timeouts
LaFleur: hold my beer

Jockey

Really pathetic defensive plan tonite.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on December 25, 2021, 06:03:43 PM
Really pathetic defensive plan tonite.

Been bad since the bye.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

It would be a Cleveland blowout if not for Baker being so bad.

PointWarrior

Absolute trash on defense.  3 and out by lafleurs runs don't help either

CreightonWarrior

The defense looks primed for another for another playoff blowout.

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