2021-2022 NFL Season

[forgetful]

Stanford isn’t the best QB this year - on paper or on the field. He had a higher average QBR the last 5 years in Detroit than he has with the Rams.

Which of the following is the best QB on paper this year.

QB	TDs	Int	Yards	Rtg
QB1	30	11	3822	100.3
QB2	36	10	4134	104.2
QB3	33	9	3898	108.4
QB4	27	4	3219	108.8

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Which of the following is the best QB on paper this year.

QB	TDs	Int	Yards	Rtg
QB1	30	11	3822	100.3
QB2	36	10	4134	104.2
QB3	33	9	3898	108.4
QB4	27	4	3219	108.8

I vote #1 off the island

[4everwarriors]

Trade Love four a box of kickin' t's. He sucks major ass, hey?

[Jockey]

Trade Love four a box of kickin' t's. He sucks major ass, hey?

This might be the 2nd thing we agree on in 8 years.

[Jockey]

The roster will get hit hard if they keep him.  He’s not taking the minimum to stick around and they can’t kick his contract down the road.  This is the year to make the move and get the maximum return.

The idea there won’t be teams that will want him isn’t reality.  Losing Davante will be a sting as well but overpaying wideouts at his age is stupid money anyway

Sop you want to get rid of our 2 best players - both HoFers. Really lookin for that 80s Packer vibe.

[Jockey]

And, theoretically at least, if you don't pay Rodgers (and Adams?), you have a lot of cap space to improve the rest of the offensive roster around Love. Like you say, maybe it wouldn't be enough ... but maybe it would in that division.

Rodgers is an interesting conundrum for the Packers. He's obviously still among the very best, and he's "worth" a high price. But he's creepin' up on 40, he has clashed with the organization, he's selfish, he's extremely expensive, you drafted his replacement, and you have plenty of other needs.

I'm the kind of guy who says try to win a Super Bowl as long as you have the chance to, so I'd probably do what I could to keep him. But I totally accept that it's not an easy decision for the franchise.

Glad you used the word 'theoretically' because that's all it is. If they trade Rodgers and let Davante go in free agency, they are still already over the cap for next year. So you can't go out and sign FAs to help the team. BTW, Brady was creepin' up on 40 7 years ago.

[4everwarriors]

This might be the 2nd thing we agree on in 8 years.

Watt wuz da furst, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

Sop you want to get rid of our 2 best players - both HoFers. Really lookin for that 80s Packer vibe.

You’re not winning anything next year either way.  Salary caps are real

[MU82]

Glad you used the word 'theoretically' because that's all it is. If they trade Rodgers and let Davante go in free agency, they are still already over the cap for next year. So you can't go out and sign FAs to help the team. BTW, Brady was creepin' up on 40 7 years ago.

As I said, "I'd probably do what I could to keep him."

I would have kept Jordan, Pippen and Rodman for at least another year or two, too.

Winning championships is supposed to be the goal, and it's extremely difficult. All but a handful of teams are desperate to find or develop a championship-caliber QB. I'm a fan of one of them.

[Jockey]

Winning championships is supposed to be the goal, and it's extremely difficult.

This brings up something interesting. I'll use the Bears as an example.

The goal should be winning the SB. But what really is the goal with a lame duck coach. It is in Nagy's best interest to win games now (meaningless games). It is in the Bears best interest to take steps toward the goal of a SB. Those are not really similar goals.

An example? If Jason Peters is healthy this week, it is in Nagy's best interest to start him to try to win. But he's 39 & won't be back next year, so he does nothing to advance the goal of a SB. Instead they let their left tackle of the future sit on the bench gaining zero experience, which hurts the teams goal. (I actually don't think he can play the position, but the Bears need to find out).

[MU82]

This brings up something interesting. I'll use the Bears as an example.

The goal should be winning the SB. But what really is the goal with a lame duck coach. It is in Nagy's best interest to win games now (meaningless games). It is in the Bears best interest to take steps toward the goal of a SB. Those are not really similar goals.

An example? If Jason Peters is healthy this week, it is in Nagy's best interest to start him to try to win. But he's 39 & won't be back next year, so he does nothing to advance the goal of a SB. Instead they let their left tackle of the future sit on the bench gaining zero experience, which hurts the teams goal. (I actually don't think he can play the position, but the Bears need to find out).

One of the many problems with having an obviously lame-duck coach.

My first year in Charlotte, John Fox was still the coach. They didn't extend his contract, and it was common knowledge quite early in the season that he wasn't gonna return. He totally mailed it in, but it ended up working out OK because they were bad enough to get the top pick, and the Cam Era began. But locally, there was quite a bit of debate about playing older guys vs younger ones that season.

I was surprised the Bears were willing to hire a guy who quit on the Panthers, but he no doubt persuaded them he was the victim.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That's why, when you make the decision to move on from the coach, you fire him ASAP.  There is no honor for keeping a guy around until the season ends.

[MU82]

That's why, when you make the decision to move on from the coach, you fire him ASAP.  There is no honor for keeping a guy around until the season ends.

They so rarely do that in the NFL, though, almost like there's a pact. In the NBA, NHL and MLB, it's so much more likely to dump a coach during the season.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

They so rarely do that in the NFL, though, almost like there's a pact. In the NBA, NHL and MLB, it's so much more likely to dump a coach during the season.

Since 2003, there has been a mid-season coach firing every year except 2006 and 2012.

That being said, NFL mid-season firings are usually because the organization is raising a white flag on their season.  With the longer seasons, the MLB and NBA are often just hoping to have another voice in the locker room.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Kinda feels like the NFL and NBA are on the brink of significant season disrupting breakouts. 

[GB Warrior]

Kinda feels like the NFL and NBA are America is on the brink of significant season disrupting breakouts.

FIFY

[DegenerateDish]

I don’t know how the Browns can possibly play on Saturday. By Friday, half their roster/coaching staff will be out.

[Jockey]

I don’t know how the Browns can possibly play on Saturday. By Friday, half their roster/coaching staff will be out.

It's on NFL Network so it will be played.

Active roster and practice squad = 69 players. so even they they hit 20, they will be OK. And I imagine the League will allow salary cap exemptions for a situation like this.

But, it may very well cost them a playoff spot.

[Pakuni]

I don’t know how the Browns can possibly play on Saturday. By Friday, half their roster/coaching staff will be out.

The league has been saying since the summer that they won't postpone games unless ordered to by the government or health professionals. So, I'm guessing they play.
Can't be any worse than Denver having to play with a WR at QB last year.

[DegenerateDish]

I should have stated it differently, I know they'll have no choice but to play, and the league has expanded taxi squads and what not, and it's a national game that the league doesn't want to lose. I just don't think their outbreak is done, and they may be bringing people in off the street Saturday AM.

The playoff race, and the playoffs themselves, may come down to which team is the healthiest (without positive tests). Trying to predict anything from here on out is going to be like a day to day type deal.

[GB Warrior]

 Good thing Rodgers was such a good teammate getting Covid well before the playoffs

[wadesworld]

The Urban experiment went well.

[DegenerateDish]

Sultan mentioned Urban earlier, I’m not really going out on a limb here, but I’ll predict he “resigns” tonight or tomorrow.

Missed this by 2 days, but Urban is indeed out in Jacksonville.

[MU82]

Good guy. Was doing a hell of a job, too.

[DegenerateDish]

I wonder if Dabo looks around with all the upheaval at Clemson in the last couple weeks and makes a play for Jacksonville.

I don’t think the Jags would hire him, but I could see him thinking the timing is right.