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forgetful

Quote from: Jockey on November 24, 2021, 11:58:34 AM
Doesn't he have some kind of history with this behavior? Hoping he gets the help that he needs ASAP.

He does. He has been very open about his mental health problems.


Dr. Blackheart

Let's turn to some good Bears news. Devin Hester named a HOF semi-finalist. He has to be a first ballot inductee.

https://youtu.be/dddpWhUdUAA

Jockey

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 24, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
Let's turn to some good Bears news. Devin Hester named a HOF semi-finalist. He has to be a first ballot inductee.

https://youtu.be/dddpWhUdUAA

Don't know if it will be 1st ballot, but he is definitely going to get in.

Jockey

Quote from: jesmu84 on November 24, 2021, 05:41:32 PM
My god. The bears are a fiasco

https://twitter.com/danpompei/status/1463609536951070725?t=J6sd8JYadJ079MKl2u-mkg&s=19

Bad organizations do bad things. Over & over & over. The McCaskeys and Ted Phillips may be wonderful people, but they are truly awful at running a football team.

But they will be making the next decision and we already know how it will turn out. Zebras don't change their stripes.

What needs to be done is what GB did. Hire a team president or Head of football operations and have him hire both the GM and the coach. Tthen make them accountable to him, not the McCaskeys.

Chances of that happening? Less than 1%,

MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 24, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
Let's turn to some good Bears news. Devin Hester named a HOF semi-finalist. He has to be a first ballot inductee.

https://youtu.be/dddpWhUdUAA

Best return guy I ever saw ... though if Deion was a full-time return guy, he'd have been right up there.

It was pure hubris that led coach after coach to continue to kick to Hester. Most of those years, the Bears were offensively inept. Just punt it out of bounds and kick it either out of the end zone or toward the sideline. But no ... "We're the team that's gonna stop Hester." Uh ... right.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on November 24, 2021, 07:21:55 PM
Best return guy I ever saw ... though if Deion was a full-time return guy, he'd have been right up there.

It was pure hubris that led coach after coach to continue to kick to Hester. Most of those years, the Bears were offensively inept. Just punt it out of bounds and kick it either out of the end zone or toward the sideline. But no ... "We're the team that's gonna stop Hester." Uh ... right.

First ballot?

MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 24, 2021, 07:58:22 PM
First ballot?

NFL Hall voting is weird. A bunch of people gather at the Super Bowl site. They sit in a room and make their cases for players. And then they vote right there. I believe the Hall has a requirement that X number of players get chosen for enshrinement every year because they're trying to build up the numbers.   

So to answer your question ... I have no idea. I haven't even looked at who else is on the ballot.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Herman Cain

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Pakuni


The Sultan

But its the way the Bears handled it when the rumors first started coming out.  They don't want to address rumors, but then let Matt Nagy go out for a press conference (where of course he has to answer all sorts of questions about it because no one else addresses rumors), and then it grows to a point where the owner has to address it to the players directly.

McCaskey or Phillips should have just released a statement saying "Nagy will be our coach for the rest of the season."  (If indeed that was true.  My guess is that Konkol could have had it right but the rumors caused them to reverse course.)  But they had Nagy be the first one to face the press after the rumors started, which is not only incompetent but distracting and somewhat cruel.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 25, 2021, 07:41:48 AM
But its the way the Bears handled it when the rumors first started coming out.  They don't want to address rumors, but then let Matt Nagy go out for a press conference (where of course he has to answer all sorts of questions about it because no one else addresses rumors), and then it grows to a point where the owner has to address it to the players directly.

McCaskey or Phillips should have just released a statement saying "Nagy will be our coach for the rest of the season."  (If indeed that was true.  My guess is that Konkol could have had it right but the rumors caused them to reverse course.)  But they had Nagy be the first one to face the press after the rumors started, which is not only incompetent but distracting and somewhat cruel.

This.

And, of course, all this typical Bears ineptitude wallpapers over the obvious: Nagy should be fired.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

Quote from: Pakuni on November 25, 2021, 07:36:05 AM
Surprised that noted Chicago sports scribe Mark Konkol got this one wrong.

He may not have been wrong. I mean this is a team that called a presser to announce Dave McGinnis as head coach before he agreed to a contract. Same team that literally said "we strongly believe in continuity and changes need to be made."

If they're pissed the story was leaked not on their terms, and changed course because of it, that would be the least surprising thing ever.

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 25, 2021, 10:04:09 AM
He may not have been wrong. I mean this is a team that called a presser to announce Dave McGinnis as head coach before he agreed to a contract. Same team that literally said "we strongly believe in continuity and changes need to be made."

If they're pissed the story was leaked not on their terms, and changed course because of it, that would be the least surprising thing ever.

That McGinnis thing was amazing. He was a former Bears assistant who was highly respected in the organization by players, fellow coaches and management and went on to be the Cardinals' DC. After the Bears fired Wannstedt, they wanted McGinnis. McCaskey was negotiating a contract with him, but it was nowhere near finalized; McCaskey being McCaskey, they were trying to lowball him. But McCaskey still thought it would get done and organized a press conference, and the team put out a statement saying McGinnis had been hired. The media sat in the room for more than a half-hour after when the press conference was supposed to have started. Finally, Ted Phillips, looking like he had just seen a ghost, came out and said that the announcement had been premature and that there would be no press conference. McGinnis ended up telling the Bears to go eff themselves. What a joke.

Then the Bears began to march one candidate after another into Halas Hall, and ultimately settled on arguably the worst of them all, Dick Jauron.

Post-script: McGinnis did get his shot to be a head coach, and had 3 1/2 lousy seasons leading the Cardinals. He's now an analyst on the radio for Tennessee, and I'm guessing he's pretty good because he always had the gift of gab.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

wadesworld


ChitownSpaceForRent

I think all national anthems need a Motown spin on them. That was very enjoyable from Neyo.

Dish

I mean, they can't even get the coin toss right.

hairy worthen

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 25, 2021, 11:52:51 AM
I mean, they can't even get the coin toss right.
Well you could hope for the Bears to lose so they get a great first round pick....oh wait never mind.

Well maybe losing will get Nagy fired at least you have that.

wadesworld

Why would a penalty take away a first touch spot of the ball? So if there's a hold and the punt isn't fielded, a kicking team player could go and kick the ball further down field and then down it?

Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 25, 2021, 10:04:09 AM
He may not have been wrong. I mean this is a team that called a presser to announce Dave McGinnis as head coach before he agreed to a contract. Same team that literally said "we strongly believe in continuity and changes need to be made."

If they're pissed the story was leaked not on their terms, and changed course because of it, that would be the least surprising thing ever.

I mean, once again I would put nothing past this franchise, but the idea they would make a complex, unprecedented decision to fire a coach at midseason, then abruptly reverse course because the story leaked is far-fetched.
Occam's Razor says the Patch news editor got his info wrong.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Jockey

I don't think I've ever seen an NFL team that is this bad.

Way worse than I expected even from a winless team.

cheebs09

Quote from: Jockey on November 25, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
I don't think I've ever seen an NFL team that is this bad.

Way worse than I expected even from a winless team.

Wasn't sure which team you were talking about at first.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Honestly kinda hoping the Bears lose at this point.

Jockey

Never seen anyone offsides as much as Quinn and not get called.

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