2021-2022 NFL Season

[forgetful]

Amari Cooper, who is out with COVID and unvaccinated, was also doing press conferences in person without a mask. Will the NFL be investigating the Cowboys? Haven't heard anything on that front.

[JWags85]

Will Pace go with him?

How about Ted Phillips?

Ginny selling the team?

Because replacing the coach can only do so much.

Hopefully, but who knows.

Nope...because

Not a chance.  Holding on with her wrinkly oblivious hands till she croaks.

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I'd like to think Pace is gone as well, but this letting him coach Thursday thing is so weird and dumb that it gives me pause about EVERYTHING in Halas Hall (not as if that is an unusual thing)

[cheebs09]

Hopefully, but who knows.

Nope...because

Not a chance.  Holding on with her wrinkly oblivious hands till she croaks.

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I'd like to think Pace is gone as well, but this letting him coach Thursday thing is so weird and dumb that it gives me pause about EVERYTHING in Halas Hall (not as if that is an unusual thing)

Seems odd. If we know it’s coming, I’m sure the players do too. Will they be going through the motions and be at a higher risk of injury?

I get the short week, but seems silly to really make a coach a lame duck.

[Uncle Rico]

Not firing Pace as well is franchise malpractice. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

David Haugh
@DavidHaugh
#Bears struggle badly with crisis management. This is a crisis, already mismanaged. Their biggest rival isn’t Packers; it’s transparency. Be simple, clear and strong. Address whether credible report is true or false. Make an exception to your rule. Issue statement, at minimum.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Here’s what I think is really going on with the Nagy situation, and full disclosure this is just complete speculation.

I don’t think the Bears truly want to fire Nagy mid-season, if they had it their way he would stay until the end of the year.

However, the other night Lake Forest played Cary Grove in the state football semi-finals. Navy’s son played for Lake Forest and was at the receiving end of anti-Nagy sentiment for most of the night from the Cary Grove student section. Nothing overly malicious, but enough that you don’t want your kid having to deal with that.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this decision is coming from Nagy for the sake of his kids

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The "we never fire coaches mid-season" is such a stupid hill to die on.  Every franchise does it.  It isn't some point of pride.  Plus it's probably better for the coach to just take his paycheck and let him move on.

[JWags85]

Here’s what I think is really going on with the Nagy situation, and full disclosure this is just complete speculation.

I don’t think the Bears truly want to fire Nagy mid-season, if they had it their way he would stay until the end of the year.

However, the other night Lake Forest played Cary Grove in the state football semi-finals. Navy’s son played for Lake Forest and was at the receiving end of anti-Nagy sentiment for most of the night from the Cary Grove student section. Nothing overly malicious, but enough that you don’t want your kid having to deal with that.

Wouldn’t surprise me if this decision is coming from Nagy for the sake of his kids

With all due respect, not a chance.  Nagy is insanely stubborn, we've seen it in myriad ways.   He's been a bum of a coach for multiple years, this isn't the first time his kids have gotten grief for it im sure.

I would think it has to do far more with the "lost the locker room" leaks and other assorted stuff than some honorable Nagy falling on his sword

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

With all due respect, not a chance.  Nagy is insanely stubborn, we've seen it in myriad ways.   He's been a bum of a coach for multiple years, this isn't the first time his kids have gotten grief for it im sure.

I would think it has to do far more with the "lost the locker room" leaks and other assorted stuff than some honorable Nagy falling on his sword

The Bears organization as a whole is just as stubborn.

Again, pure speculation with no basis. But this latest incident garnered a ton of media attention.

I’m not a parent but I’m sure things completely change when it concerns your kids.

[Jockey]

The Bears organization as a whole is just as stubborn.

Again, pure speculation with no basis. But this latest incident garnered a ton of media attention.

I’m not a parent but I’m sure things completely change when it concerns your kids.

I think you mean 'stupid' instead of 'stubborn'.

Bad organizations do dumb things. Rinse. Repeat. Rinse repeat.

The same people who have made all of the dumb decisions for the last 30 years will be the ones making the next decisions. We know their track record. And that is to do dumb things.

There is not a single shred of evidence that the people in charge know how to do the right thing. Or even what the right thing is. That's why Packers fans love the Bears. It's like beating up your little brother. I might go so far as to say the Packers own the Bears more than the McCaskey's do.

[RJax55]

Seems odd. If we know it’s coming, I’m sure the players do too. Will they be going through the motions and be at a higher risk of injury?

I get the short week, but seems silly to really make a coach a lame duck.

Getting a "Done Deal" vibe from the initial report. Guess we will find out on Friday. But, yes, logically it doesn't make sense. Then again, this organization once announced the hiring of a head coach without his contract being final. Never know with the Bears.

[Pakuni]

FWIW, Nagy said today that reports of his imminent dismissal are not true.
And him quitting because some high school kids chanted "Fire Nagy" for a couple of minutes would be insane.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

FWIW, Nagy said today that reports of his imminent dismissal are not true.

He also said that he hasn't talked with Phillips or the owners since Sunday.

[Pakuni]

He also said that he hasn't talked with Phillips or the owners since Sunday.

Is that unusual?

[JWags85]

I think you mean 'stupid' instead of 'stubborn'.

Bad organizations do dumb things. Rinse. Repeat. Rinse repeat.

The same people who have made all of the dumb decisions for the last 30 years will be the ones making the next decisions. We know their track record. And that is to do dumb things.

There is not a single shred of evidence that the people in charge know how to do the right thing. Or even what the right thing is. That's why Packers fans love the Bears. It's like beating up your little brother. I might go so far as to say the Packers own the Bears more than the McCaskey's do.

Must suck when that same "stupid" "dumb" and bad organization has been to exactly the same number of Super Bowls as the Packers in the last 25 years, and thats without always having a HOF QB at the helm.

Nobody here is arguing the Bears have a good front office track record but spare me the smug sneers and pompous gloating.  Leave that to the dbags in NE who have actually won stuff.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Is that unusual?

Well, it at least means that he may not be aware of a decision that may have been made.

[JWags85]

Well, it at least means that he may not be aware of a decision that may have been made.

I think "usual", "unusual", or "normal" can go out the window here.  Communication is an issue there.  I wouldn't be surprised if a decision has been made and even all of the FO doesn't know yet or didn't at the time of the reports or leak.

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bears walk it back and keep him around cause they didn't like that it leaked and didn't stay until Friday.  Who knows. 

[Jockey]

FWIW, Nagy said today that reports of his imminent dismissal are not true.
And him quitting because some high school kids chanted "Fire Nagy" for a couple of minutes would be insane.

He said they were 'inaccurate'. I don't believe he used the word 'untrue'.

[Jockey]

Must suck when that same "stupid" "dumb" and bad organization has been to exactly the same number of Super Bowls as the Packers in the last 25 years, and thats without always having a HOF QB at the helm.

Nobody here is arguing the Bears have a good front office track record but spare me the smug sneers and pompous gloating.  Leave that to the dbags in NE who have actually won stuff.

They stay bad because they have bad management and lots of supporters who say things like you just said.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I think "usual", "unusual", or "normal" can go out the window here.  Communication is an issue there.  I wouldn't be surprised if a decision has been made and even all of the FO doesn't know yet or didn't at the time of the reports or leak.

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked to see the Bears walk it back and keep him around cause they didn't like that it leaked and didn't stay until Friday.  Who knows. 

Agreed.

[Pakuni]

He said they were 'inaccurate'. I don't believe he used the word 'untrue'.

Actually said "not accurate."
Can something be true and not accurate at the same time?

It's entirely possible that Nagy has been fired and just doesn't know it yet. But I doubt he went in front of the media and tried to parse words like that.

[Pakuni]

Well, it at least means that he may not be aware of a decision that may have been made.

That's possible.
But given the way the Bears operate, it would be unusual for the coach to regularly speak with Virginia McCaskey or Ted Phillips. This isn't Jerry Jones and the Cowboys.
Also, while I wouldn't put anything past that organization, it would be unusual if they'd let him go deny these rumors publicly if they were true. Nagy didn't say he didn't know anything about the rumors or try to deflect the question. He flatly called them wrong. Something made him believe that, right?

[jficke13]

Actually said "not accurate."
Can something be true and not accurate at the same time?

It's entirely possible that Nagy has been fired and just doesn't know it yet. But I doubt he went in front of the media and tried to parse words like that.

Counterpoint: "immunized"

[DegenerateDish]

This is the most Bears Bears thing ever. All of it.

Even if it’s not true.

[RJax55]

They stay bad because they have bad management and lots of supporters who say things like you just said.

Lol.

The Bears are bad because they have poor ownership. That's hardily unique in professional sports. I guess the fans could organize some sort of boycott or something, but I am unaware of a fan campaign that actually caused a team's ownership to change. Sounds good when ranting on the internet or for the talk radio crowd though. So, yes, blame the fans.

I'm pretty sure every Bears fan that posts on Scoop thinks the organization is terrible. So, I really don't understand the gloating, other than it just being a bunch of homer nonsense. Yes, the Packers are better than the Bears. No crap. Honestly, it has a "best fans in football" vibe. So, I guess congrats are in order.