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cheebs09

Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
Don't you think management was responsible for playing along and not enforcing the league protocols? Wouldn't he be required to wear a mask when in the facilities? Doesn't this also fall on Gutey and Murphy for allowing him to skirt the rules?

I understand ARod's persona as the "look at me, I am picked on guy". Didn't bother me anymore than Brady or Jeter being the "I'm so generic I will never say anything that isn't bland guy". Everyone has their own motivation.

But this is a real reason to lose all respect for ARod.

My comment was more tied to him not being vaccinated.

I don't think we have proof the Packers didn't enforce protocols. It sounds like in the building Rodgers was operating as an unvaccinated person. Who knows if the NFL let him slide on some protocols as part of the back and forth on the alternate treatment.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 12:09:57 PM
I'm very aware.  But that isn't what you said.

It's exactly what I said.
I wrote "Packer fans really are spoiled when it comes to your QB play," to which you responded that the team has won only two Super Bowls.

BM1090

Bill Michaels reporting that Rodgers got the AZ vaccine in Canada last winter. AZ is not accepted by the NFL.

More information to come, I'm sure.

4everwarriors

Quote from: BLM on November 03, 2021, 10:59:32 AM
Like I said all offseason, should've given the guy what he wanted.  Didn't want to be here?  Fair enough.  You have the best WR in football, one of the best RB groups in football, one of the best offensive lines in football, and you've spent draft and money capitol on your defense for the last number of years now, and you'd get a king's ransom for Rodgers.  If the guy you traded up in the first round to take is not good enough to at the very least manage the game enough to win in the NFC North, then that's on you for your lack of ability to identify talent.

Instead we're going to get a guy who wouldn't vaccinate himself causing the Packers to lose their chance at a 1 seed, probably lose a road NFC Title game, and then see the QB and the WR walk for nothing.

Excellent.





Yeah butt, Love sucks major ass, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: BM1090 on November 03, 2021, 12:15:37 PM
Bill Michaels reporting that Rodgers got the AZ vaccine in Canada last winter. AZ is not accepted by the NFL.

More information to come, I'm sure.

Wasn't Canada closed to US travel then?

Dish

On Ruggs...

How is he alive?
How did he not crash earlier?
How did he find a stretch of road to get up to 156 mph?
Where did he go after Top Golf?

BM1090

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 03, 2021, 12:17:39 PM
Wasn't Canada closed to US travel then?

Not sure, but he was definitely in Canada in February with Shailene.

Bill Michaels also isn't the most reputable source.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: BM1090 on November 03, 2021, 12:15:37 PM
Bill Michaels reporting that Rodgers got the AZ vaccine in Canada last winter. AZ is not accepted by the NFL.

More information to come, I'm sure.

When Broadway reopened Canadians and Europeans with the AZ vaccine were originally not allowed into theatres but the policy was reversed as it had been approved by the WHO. I find it strange that he went to Canada to be vaccinated but if what Michaels is saying is true then I don't see an issue with what he did, and it is likely just a breakthrough case, though I need proof considering travel restrictions.

https://deadline.com/2021/06/springsteen-on-broadway-astrazeneca-policy-reverse-vaccine-international-fans-1234778394/

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

wadesworld

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 03, 2021, 12:19:39 PM
On Ruggs...

How is he alive?
How did he not crash earlier?
How did he find a stretch of road to get up to 156 mph?
Where did he go after Top Golf?

And he had a passenger in his car.  I understand that person was likely influenced by alcohol as well, but how in the world does someone get into a car with someone who is in that state?  And how do you let someone in that state get behind the wheel of a car?

JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 03, 2021, 12:13:10 PM
My comment was more tied to him not being vaccinated.

I don't think we have proof the Packers didn't enforce protocols. It sounds like in the building Rodgers was operating as an unvaccinated person. Who knows if the NFL let him slide on some protocols as part of the back and forth on the alternate treatment.

But the media availability and press conferences are in the building, and Rodgers was never masked for those

wadesworld

Benkert has covid as well.

Bortles to the rescue.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2021, 12:13:44 PM
It's exactly what I said.
I wrote "Packer fans really are spoiled when it comes to your QB play," to which you responded that the team has won only two Super Bowls.

Right, and then you implied that I blame the two HOF QBs for the lack of Super Bowls.  Which would be a ridiculous stance to take.

Of course Packer fans are spoiled on the QB front, but what has back to back HOF QBs got them?  Two Super Bowls in 30 years.

I think a lot of NFL fans think it is fun to watch your team win, but don't understand how it feels to get your high hopes crushed annually.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 03, 2021, 12:17:39 PM
Wasn't Canada closed to US travel then?

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

Billy Hoyle

"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Jockey

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 03, 2021, 12:13:10 PM
My comment was more tied to him not being vaccinated.

I don't think we have proof the Packers didn't enforce protocols. It sounds like in the building Rodgers was operating as an unvaccinated person. Who knows if the NFL let him slide on some protocols as part of the back and forth on the alternate treatment.

Thanks.

Guess we'll find out more as the day goes on.

Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on November 03, 2021, 12:29:54 PM
But the media availability and press conferences are in the building, and Rodgers was never masked for those

That's why I said that if reports of being unvaccinated are true, management will pay a price as well.

If he got the AZ vaccine, this is all nothing.

Jockey

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 12:32:22 PM
"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

Some people always make it about politics - especially those who make the accusations about others.

No surprise.

cheebs09

Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2021, 12:43:27 PM
That's why I said that if reports of being unvaccinated are true, management will pay a price as well.

If he got the AZ vaccine, this is all nothing.

In his presser, Lafleur says the NFL has cameras and have not informed the Packers of any violations. Packers and NFL knew he wasn't vaccinated, so either he's been fined a ton or they don't view pressers as a breach of protocol.

If it was the AZ vaccine, I'd have a lot more respect for him. Rappaport told the McAfee it was a natural and homeopathic treatment, so I'm guessing it wasn't the AZ vaccine.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on November 03, 2021, 12:15:37 PM
Bill Michaels reporting that Rodgers got the AZ vaccine in Canada last winter. AZ is not accepted by the NFL.

More information to come, I'm sure.


He deleted his tweet stating this so...
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2021, 12:45:44 PM
Some people always make it about politics - especially those who make the accusations about others.

No surprise.

lmao, I was wondering who would take the bait.  It was only a joke, but filled with truth.

Rules don't apply to the rich and famous, regardless of their political affiliation.

Jockey

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on November 03, 2021, 12:35:21 PM
no, they loosened restrictions in February:

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2021/02/government-of-canada-expands-restrictions-to-international-travel-by-land-and-air.html

If he was vaccinated with AZ in February, he should be commended. People in his demographic were not eligible for ANY vaccine in the US yet.

I guess this is why we need facts rather than speculation. He was either very responsible or he was completely duplicitous. We don't really know yet.

Fortunately, we have Scoop -where facts only get in the way of a good thread.


Hards Alumni

Quote from: BLM on November 03, 2021, 12:30:51 PM
Benkert has covid as well.

Bortles to the rescue.

I thought you were joking about Bortles.

Jockey

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 12:49:49 PM
lmao, I was wondering who would take the bait.  It was only a joke, but filled with truth.

Rules don't apply to the rich and famous, regardless of their political affiliation.

My post was tongue-in-cheek, obviously.

I, too, wanted to see who would take the bait. JFK Jr. will straighten out this mess when he gets time.

BM1090

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 03, 2021, 12:49:21 PM

He deleted his tweet stating this so...

Unsurprising. Never trust Bill Michaels.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2021, 12:50:25 PM
If he was vaccinated with AZ in February, he should be commended. People in his demographic were not eligible for ANY vaccine in the US yet.

I guess this is why we need facts rather than speculation. He was either very responsible or he was completely duplicitous. We don't really know yet.

Fortunately, we have Scoop -where facts only get in the way of a good thread.

He was treated as unvaccinated around the facility.  He had some weird vague "immunized" answer to vaccinated.  Multiple sources have said he was unvaccinated.  Why are we even hypothetically pretending he went above and beyond to get the vaccine well ahead of time and proposing commendation in that instance?

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