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Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 03, 2021, 11:29:53 AM
Ruggs was going 156 (!!!!) MPH two seconds before the crash, made impact at 127 MPH. BAC was more than 2x legal limit, and loaded gun in his car.

He should get the max penalty of 20 years.

Jesus.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: jficke13 on November 03, 2021, 11:31:11 AM
Hahahahaha <gasp> hahahahaha

Bet it was this fraudster: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/napa-woman-arrested-fake-covid-19-immunization-and-vaccine-card-scheme

"According to court documents, Mazi offered homeoprophylaxis immunizations for childhood illnesses that she falsely claimed would satisfy the immunization requirements for California schools, and falsified immunization cards that were submitted by parents to California schools. Homeoprophylaxis involves the exposure of an individual to dilute amounts of a disease, purportedly to stimulate the immune system and confer immunity. Mazi is alleged to have falsely claimed that orally ingesting pellets with small amounts of COVID-19 would result in full lifelong immunity from COVID-19."

Wonder if Rocket is his dentist?
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The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2021, 11:17:26 AM
I totally get the unhappiness with Rodgers right now, but anyone who thinks this team is above .500 right now without him is out of their minds.
You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and then you have a legit Super Bowl contender.


Right.  That's what makes it especially annoying. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
You don't beat Arizona, San Francisco or Cincy with Jordan Love or Jimmy Garoppolo at QB.

Disagree.  They would have changed the entire offensive plan though.  Plus 12 wouldn't be swapping to passes half the game.

The run game in GB is criminally underrated.  Jones and Dillon have been averaging 4.5 per carry.

MuggsyB

Excuse my ignorance but  Rodgers is not vaccinated?  I thought the NFL required players to be vaccinated? 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2021, 11:37:57 AM
Excuse my ignorance but  Rodgers is not vaccinated?  I thought the NFL required players to be vaccinated?

There is no requirement for NFL players.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 03, 2021, 11:29:53 AM
Ruggs was going 156 (!!!!) MPH two seconds before the crash, made impact at 127 MPH. BAC was more than 2x legal limit, and loaded gun in his car.

He should get the max penalty of 20 years.

and that still wouldn't be enough.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

cheebs09

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 03, 2021, 11:37:57 AM
Excuse my ignorance but  Rodgers is not vaccinated?  I thought the NFL required players to be vaccinated?

Don't have to be vaccinated, but you are under strict protocols if you aren't. Not sure how well Rodgers was abiding by those.

Sounds like he was at a Halloween party with the team this weekend, which would break the "no 10-15 person indoor parties without a mask" rule.

Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 03, 2021, 11:29:53 AM
Ruggs was going 156 (!!!!) MPH two seconds before the crash, made impact at 127 MPH. BAC was more than 2x legal limit, and loaded gun in his car.

He should get the max penalty of 20 years.

Welp, I guess we know why the Raiders released him so quickly. Kid was having a bit of a breakout season, too, and pissed it all away. Sad for him, much sadder for the victim.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 11:36:33 AM
Disagree.  They would have changed the entire offensive plan though.  Plus 12 wouldn't be swapping to passes half the game.

The run game in GB is criminally underrated.  Jones and Dillon have been averaging 4.5 per carry.


They don't get those yards without Rodgers at QB though.  KC is going to play much closer to the line unless Love shows he can beat them.

The idea that they are still serious contenders without Rodgers is absolutely false.  Unless Jordan Love is much better than I think he is, it will clearly be a step down when he takes over.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 11:38:23 AM
There is no requirement for NFL players.

Oh.....alright.  I guess I was out of the loop.

tower912

Ruggs and Rodgers.     Do stupid (stuff), pay the price.     AR may drag his whole team down with him.   He showed us. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 03, 2021, 11:41:40 AM

They don't get those yards without Rodgers at QB though.  KC is going to play much closer to the line unless Love shows he can beat them.

The idea that they are still serious contenders without Rodgers is absolutely false.
  Unless Jordan Love is much better than I think he is, it will clearly be a step down when he takes over.

Pak said they'd be under .500. 

tower912

A random question.   If the worst case scenario were to happen to Rodgers, what would the Packers financial obligation be to his family and estate?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 11:36:33 AM
Disagree.  They would have changed the entire offensive plan though.  Plus 12 wouldn't be swapping to passes half the game.

The run game in GB is criminally underrated.  Jones and Dillon have been averaging 4.5 per carry.

That 4.5 ypc average would be good for a four-way tie for 11th in the NFL. That ain't winning you games.

Packer fans really are spoiled when it comes to your QB play. You've got a generational talent who's carried the franchise for more than a decade and don't have a clue of how lucky you are. So what, he's a bit of an a--hole. About 30 other NFL fanbases would trade places with you in a nanosecond. 

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 11:46:06 AM
Pak said they'd be under .500. 


If they aren't serious contenders, I would prefer them to be under .500.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jficke13

Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2021, 11:47:16 AM
A random question.   If the worst case scenario were to happen to Rodgers, what would the Packers financial obligation be to his family and estate?

One subject to litigation, probably.

If the Rodgers estate were to make a wrongful death claim, he'd have a pretty uphill climb to demonstrate that anything the Packers did was causative of his death.

I suspect, though do not know, that NFL contracts contain language defining obligations to players in the event of their death before expiration of the contract. The starting point would be there.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2021, 11:48:16 AM
That 4.5 ypc average would be good for a four-way tie for 11th in the NFL. That ain't winning you games.

Packer fans really are spoiled when it comes to your QB play. You've got a generational talent who's carried the franchise for more than a decade and don't have a clue of how lucky you are. So what, he's a bit of an a--hole. About 30 other NFL fanbases would trade places with you in a nanosecond.

Obviously.  Also, non-Packer fans saying that the Packers are spoiled are hilarious.  Maybe being conference champs is big for a lot of fan bases, but imagine having two HOF QBs back to back for 30 years and have two Super Bowl wins to show for it. 

4.5 ypc average is in a vacuum as well.  I'm saying they're capable running backs, and even when they're getting first downs and decent gains, the Packers start passing... and frequently ending drives as a result.  Either way, of course the Packers would be worse with Love at the helm. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: tower912 on November 03, 2021, 11:47:16 AM
A random question.   If the worst case scenario were to happen to Rodgers, what would the Packers financial obligation be to his family and estate?

MAYBE the rest of the guaranteed money on his contract.  Likely, zero though.

Herman Cain

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on November 03, 2021, 11:09:30 AM
Lazar's people handled AR's documentation paperwork.
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jficke13

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 03, 2021, 11:29:53 AM
Ruggs was going 156 (!!!!) MPH two seconds before the crash, made impact at 127 MPH. BAC was more than 2x legal limit, and loaded gun in his car.

He should get the max penalty of 20 years.

Freaking yikes.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 03, 2021, 11:54:19 AM
Obviously.  Also, non-Packer fans saying that the Packers are spoiled are hilarious.  Maybe being conference champs is big for a lot of fan bases, but imagine having two HOF QBs back to back for 30 years and have two Super Bowl wins to show for it. 

This is not remotely the fault of said HOF QBs.
If you want to be salty about how the organization has let those QBs down, by all means. But being pissy about the QB because he doesn't worship at the altar of Green Bay makes no sense to us non-Packer fans.

Jockey

Quote from: cheebs09 on November 03, 2021, 11:09:19 AM
I honestly don't think the Packers could have done anything to motivate Rodgers to get vaccinated. Listening to some of his McAfee stuff, he seems to be diving into some conspiracy theories to come off as an intellectual. I also believe his fiancé is very much into natural medicine.

I don't take Rodgers not being vaccinated as some indictment against Packers management.

Don't you think management was responsible for playing along and not enforcing the league protocols? Wouldn't he be required to wear a mask when in the facilities? Doesn't this also fall on Gutey and Murphy for allowing him to skirt the rules?

I understand ARod's persona as the "look at me, I am picked on guy". Didn't bother me anymore than Brady or Jeter being the "I'm so generic I will never say anything that isn't bland guy". Everyone has their own motivation.

But this is a real reason to lose all respect for ARod.

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2021, 12:07:17 PM
Don't you think management was responsible for playing along and not enforcing the league protocols? Wouldn't he be required to wear a mask when in the facilities? Doesn't this also fall on Gutey and Murphy for allowing him to skirt the rules?

I understand ARod's persona as the "look at me, I am picked on guy". Didn't bother me anymore than Brady or Jeter being the "I'm so generic I will never say anything that isn't bland guy". Everyone has their own motivation.

But this is a real reason to lose all respect for ARod.


LaFleur said that the NFL reviews the handling of protocols within the building, including cameras that have been installed all over the place, and the Packers haven't be reprimanded. Let's see if that remains the case however.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on November 03, 2021, 12:05:19 PM
This is not remotely the fault of said HOF QBs.
If you want to be salty about how the organization has let those QBs down, by all means. But being pissy about the QB because he doesn't worship at the altar of Green Bay makes no sense to us non-Packer fans.

I'm very aware.  But that isn't what you said. 

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