2021-2022 NFL Season

[wadesworld]

Before Aaron Rodgers, "Jeff Tedford" guys were all busts in the NFL. 

Can Joe Burrow be an Ohio State guy or does LSU get him?  Who gets Russell Wilson?

A whole pack of Badgers.  #phony

[Uncle Rico]

A whole pack of Badgers.  #phony

Won't argue that

[JWags85]

Who gets Russell Wilson?

You mean Russell Wilson, homegrown Badger great?  Madison's own son featured in all Wisconsin marketing materials and alumni lists despite being on campus for less time than Niv Berkowitz was in Milwaukee?

[Uncle Rico]

You mean Russell Wilson, homegrown Badger great?  Madison's own son featured in all Wisconsin marketing materials and alumni lists despite being on campus for less time than Niv Berkowitz was in Milwaukee?

Badger legend.  He almost won a Rose Bowl

[Pakuni]

Before Aaron Rodgers, "Jeff Tedford" guys were all busts in the NFL. 

Can Joe Burrow be an Ohio State guy or does LSU get him?  Who gets Russell Wilson?

Come to think of it, Cam Newton was an Urban Meyer player. 
Who said Urban's QBs never have NFL success?

[MUeng]

Come to think of it, Cam Newton was an Urban Meyer player. 
Who said Urban's QBs never have NFL success?

Tim Tebow did win a playoff game...took Peyton 2 years to do that in Denver

[Jockey]

Tim Tebow did win a playoff game...took Peyton 2 years to do that in Denver

Lazard out for Packers - Covid. He hasn't tested positive, but wass\ a close contact of Davante.

A real 'team first  guy.

[MUeng]

Lazard out for Packers - Covid. He hasn't tested positive, but wass\ a close contact of Davante.

A real 'team first  guy.

crap. Dropping like flies. Hopefully WR Roders can step up, I'm excited for him

[Billy Hoyle]

Fields never played for Urban.

Helmet scouting is silly.
How many great QBs did Clemson produce until DeShaun Watson? Was Peyton Manning doomed to be a bust because he wore the same jersey as Heath Shuler? Is Is Joe Burrow going to be bad because of JaMarcus Russell?

Whatever Fields becomes, good or bad, it won't be because of where he played in college.

Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.

[CreightonWarrior]

Sit the whole team and take a bye.

[The Sultan]

Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.

Then there's Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray...

[MUBurrow]

Before Aaron Rodgers, "Jeff Tedford" guys were all busts in the NFL. 

Can Joe Burrow be an Ohio State guy or does LSU get him?  Who gets Russell Wilson?

There might be something to the Tedford thing - wasn't he always with messing with guys releases or something? I think Rodgers spent a lot of that time behind Favre reforming his mechanics.

[cheebs09]

Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.

Allen wasn't very good his first two years. He was the least accurate QB both years. I think Fields needs a little time before we say he's a bust.

[Pakuni]

Then there's Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray...

Dak Prescott, DeShaun Watson, Derek Carr ... darn near impossible to find a good NFL quarterback who ran a spread scheme in college.

[Pakuni]

Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.

So now you're not only helmet scouting, but you're also "system" scouting. Both are bad ideas. Evaluate the player, not the team he plays for or the system he runs.

You know who else had a lot of talent around him in college? Joe Burrow. DeShaun Watson. Kyler Murray. Baker Mayfield. Matthew Stafford.
By the way, Josh Rosen played at UCLA, and had little talent around him.

As has been noted, Allen was not a good NFL quarterback until his third year. Despite the "pro-style" offense at Wyoming, he came into the league far less prepared than a whole bunch of spread QBs.

[jesmu84]

Re: Fields

https://twitter.com/ButkusStats/status/1452697900958486532?t=vKMNgeGf7RvaHUfgp5N7ww&s=19

[Herman Cain]

Hope MVS can be back in line up Thursday night

[The Sultan]

Dak Prescott, DeShaun Watson, Derek Carr ... darn near impossible to find a good NFL quarterback who ran a spread scheme in college.

The fact that Billy had to go back to Dave Klingler and Andre Ware is LOL.

And both would find a much better match for their skills in today's NFL than when they entered the league nearly 30 years ago.

[Spotcheck Billy]

It gets better:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32486646/los-angeles-rams-owner-stan-kroenke-angers-nfl-owners-financial-pivot-related-lawsuit-st-louis-move-sources-say

[The Sultan]

And Andrew Brandt is really torching the league over the WFT stuff.

[Pakuni]

It gets better:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32486646/los-angeles-rams-owner-stan-kroenke-angers-nfl-owners-financial-pivot-related-lawsuit-st-louis-move-sources-say

I, for one, am shocked to learn that Stan Kroenke looks out for no one other than Stan Kroenke.

[Dish]

The degree to which the league and it's lawyers have bungled the entire St. Louis situation has been comical.

[Herman Cain]

It gets better:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32486646/los-angeles-rams-owner-stan-kroenke-angers-nfl-owners-financial-pivot-related-lawsuit-st-louis-move-sources-say

Very interesting to see how Jerry Jones is such a staunch supporter of Kroenke.

[Herman Cain]

Packers doing another stock offering.

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2021/10/27/nfl-approves-green-bay-packers-stock-sale-lambeau-field-improvements/8570051002/

[cheebs09]

Packers doing another stock offering.

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2021/10/27/nfl-approves-green-bay-packers-stock-sale-lambeau-field-improvements/8570051002/

Pulling out all the stops to keep Rodgers.