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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1600 on: October 26, 2021, 04:23:53 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 26, 2021, 04:19:51 PM
Before Aaron Rodgers, “Jeff Tedford” guys were all busts in the NFL. 

Can Joe Burrow be an Ohio State guy or does LSU get him?  Who gets Russell Wilson?

A whole pack of Badgers.  #phony
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1601 on: October 26, 2021, 04:28:37 PM »
Quote from: BLM on October 26, 2021, 04:23:53 PM
A whole pack of Badgers.  #phony

Won’t argue that
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1602 on: October 26, 2021, 05:28:36 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 26, 2021, 04:19:51 PM
Who gets Russell Wilson?

You mean Russell Wilson, homegrown Badger great?  Madison's own son featured in all Wisconsin marketing materials and alumni lists despite being on campus for less time than Niv Berkowitz was in Milwaukee?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1603 on: October 26, 2021, 05:49:06 PM »
Quote from: JWags85 on October 26, 2021, 05:28:36 PM
You mean Russell Wilson, homegrown Badger great?  Madison's own son featured in all Wisconsin marketing materials and alumni lists despite being on campus for less time than Niv Berkowitz was in Milwaukee?

Badger legend.  He almost won a Rose Bowl
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1604 on: October 26, 2021, 06:02:46 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 26, 2021, 04:19:51 PM
Before Aaron Rodgers, “Jeff Tedford” guys were all busts in the NFL. 

Can Joe Burrow be an Ohio State guy or does LSU get him?  Who gets Russell Wilson?

Come to think of it, Cam Newton was an Urban Meyer player. 
Who said Urban's QBs never have NFL success?
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1605 on: October 26, 2021, 06:56:58 PM »
Quote from: Pakuni on October 26, 2021, 06:02:46 PM
Come to think of it, Cam Newton was an Urban Meyer player. 
Who said Urban's QBs never have NFL success?
Tim Tebow did win a playoff game...took Peyton 2 years to do that in Denver
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1606 on: October 26, 2021, 07:30:11 PM »
Quote from: MUeng on October 26, 2021, 06:56:58 PM
Tim Tebow did win a playoff game...took Peyton 2 years to do that in Denver

Lazard out for Packers - Covid. He hasn't tested positive, but wass\ a close contact of Davante.

A real 'team first  guy. :-\

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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1607 on: October 26, 2021, 07:54:23 PM »
Quote from: Jockey on October 26, 2021, 07:30:11 PM
Lazard out for Packers - Covid. He hasn't tested positive, but wass\ a close contact of Davante.

A real 'team first  guy. :-\
crap. Dropping like flies. Hopefully WR Roders can step up, I'm excited for him
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1608 on: October 26, 2021, 08:04:08 PM »
Quote from: Pakuni on October 26, 2021, 03:12:35 PM

Fields never played for Urban.

Helmet scouting is silly.
How many great QBs did Clemson produce until DeShaun Watson? Was Peyton Manning doomed to be a bust because he wore the same jersey as Heath Shuler? Is Is Joe Burrow going to be bad because of JaMarcus Russell?

Whatever Fields becomes, good or bad, it won't be because of where he played in college.

Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1609 on: October 26, 2021, 08:16:13 PM »
Sit the whole team and take a bye.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1610 on: October 26, 2021, 08:16:29 PM »
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 26, 2021, 08:04:08 PM
Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.


Then there’s Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray…
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1611 on: October 26, 2021, 08:26:22 PM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 26, 2021, 04:19:51 PM
Before Aaron Rodgers, “Jeff Tedford” guys were all busts in the NFL. 

Can Joe Burrow be an Ohio State guy or does LSU get him?  Who gets Russell Wilson?

There might be something to the Tedford thing - wasn’t he always with messing with guys releases or something? I think Rodgers spent a lot of that time behind Favre reforming his mechanics.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1612 on: October 26, 2021, 08:26:51 PM »
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 26, 2021, 08:04:08 PM
Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.

Allen wasn’t very good his first two years. He was the least accurate QB both years. I think Fields needs a little time before we say he’s a bust.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1613 on: October 26, 2021, 08:36:09 PM »
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on October 26, 2021, 08:16:29 PM

Then there’s Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray…

Dak Prescott, DeShaun Watson, Derek Carr ... darn near impossible to find a good NFL quarterback who ran a spread scheme in college.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1614 on: October 26, 2021, 08:48:13 PM »
Quote from: Billy Hoyle on October 26, 2021, 08:04:08 PM
Fields played in the same system as Day didn't change anything as he was the OC/QB coach under Meyer. When there's a trend when coming from the same system and style of play then yes, you can use that as a red flag of their abilities. Talent around them can also mask a lot of warts (USC QB's, Josh Rosen, AJ McCarron and Tua). Look at Klingler and Ware coming from the Run and Shoot in Houston.

Meanwhile, look at Josh Allen coming from a pro-style offense at Wyoming.

So now you're not only helmet scouting, but you're also "system" scouting. Both are bad ideas. Evaluate the player, not the team he plays for or the system he runs.

You know who else had a lot of talent around him in college? Joe Burrow. DeShaun Watson. Kyler Murray. Baker Mayfield. Matthew Stafford.
By the way, Josh Rosen played at UCLA, and had little talent around him.

As has been noted, Allen was not a good NFL quarterback until his third year. Despite the "pro-style" offense at Wyoming, he came into the league far less prepared than a whole bunch of spread QBs.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1615 on: October 26, 2021, 08:57:51 PM »
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1616 on: October 26, 2021, 09:12:30 PM »
Hope MVS can be back in line up Thursday night
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1617 on: October 27, 2021, 09:30:43 AM »
Quote from: Pakuni on October 26, 2021, 08:36:09 PM
Dak Prescott, DeShaun Watson, Derek Carr ... darn near impossible to find a good NFL quarterback who ran a spread scheme in college.


The fact that Billy had to go back to Dave Klingler and Andre Ware is LOL.

And both would find a much better match for their skills in today's NFL than when they entered the league nearly 30 years ago.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1618 on: October 27, 2021, 01:32:36 PM »
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1619 on: October 27, 2021, 01:35:32 PM »
And Andrew Brandt is really torching the league over the WFT stuff.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1620 on: October 27, 2021, 02:00:03 PM »
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1621 on: October 27, 2021, 03:01:01 PM »
The degree to which the league and it's lawyers have bungled the entire St. Louis situation has been comical.
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1622 on: October 27, 2021, 04:55:16 PM »
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« Reply #1623 on: October 27, 2021, 04:59:18 PM »
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Re: 2021-2022 NFL Season
« Reply #1624 on: October 27, 2021, 05:16:25 PM »
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