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cheebs09

#150
May 12, 2021, 08:43:46 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 11, 2021, 10:47:17 PM
Gutey has shown nothing but a lack of respect to Rodgers. I mean even the Queens called Cousins and gave him a heads up that they were gonna draft a QB in the 3rd round.

The only good thing is that if Rodgers walks, Gutey will be gone in 2 years.

Gutey's length of tenure is going to be tied to the transition from Rodgers to Love or another QB. Which is pretty consistent for any GM (other than maybe the Bears).

The Sultan

#151
May 12, 2021, 08:45:53 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 12, 2021, 08:43:46 AM
Gutey's length of tenure is going to be tied to the transition from Rodgers to Love or another QB. Which is pretty consistent for any GM (other than maybe the Bears).


Yep.  As I said, if Love is a success, then Gutey made a fine choice.  If he isn't, then he will be gone.  Just like Wolf when he traded a #1 for Favre and just like Thompson when he drafted Rodgers.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

#152
May 12, 2021, 08:52:21 AM
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 12, 2021, 08:45:53 AM

Yep.  As I said, if Love is a success, then Gutey made a fine choice.  If he isn't, then he will be gone.  Just like Wolf when he traded a #1 for Favre and just like Thompson when he drafted Rodgers.

Exactly. I think Gutey has so far shown he's good at building a team. We have been to the NFC Championship the last two years.

I'm optimistic with a QB on a rookie deal, he could build a really good team that doesn't depend on the QB being a HOF.

Jockey

#153
May 12, 2021, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 12, 2021, 08:52:21 AM
Exactly. I think Gutey has so far shown he's good at building a team. We have been to the NFC Championship the last two years.

I'm optimistic with a QB on a rookie deal, he could build a really good team that doesn't depend on the QB being a HOF.

I hope you are right, Cheebs. But, I still say that if Rodgers leaves (personally, I don't think he will), we will be fighting with Chicago and Detroit for 3rd and 4th place.

Dish

#154
May 12, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
I'm quite frankly shocked by how many prime appearances the Bears are getting for the 2021 season. Multiple SNF & MNF games as well as Thanksgiving.

I know people are excited for Fields, but this can easily be a 4-12 squad this upcoming season.

cheebs09

#155
May 12, 2021, 02:12:46 PM
Quote from: DegenerateDish on May 12, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
I'm quite frankly shocked by how many prime appearances the Bears are getting for the 2021 season. Multiple SNF & MNF games as well as Thanksgiving.

I know people are excited for Fields, but this can easily be a 4-12 squad this upcoming season.

That Packers-Bears matchup in Week 14 could be ugly if Rodgers is playing elsewhere.

tower912

#156
May 12, 2021, 02:16:20 PM
Quote from: DegenerateDish on May 12, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
I'm quite frankly shocked by how many prime appearances the Bears are getting for the 2021 season. Multiple SNF & MNF games as well as Thanksgiving.

I know people are excited for Fields, but this can easily be a 4-12 squad this upcoming season.


With two of the wins being the Lions.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dish

#157
May 12, 2021, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: DegenerateDish on May 12, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
I'm quite frankly shocked by how many prime appearances the Bears are getting for the 2021 season. Multiple SNF & MNF games as well as Thanksgiving.

I know people are excited for Fields, but this can easily be a 4-12 squad this upcoming season.

Sorry, 4-13 squad. That extra game is going to take getting used to win it comes to records/win totals.

Pakuni

#158
May 12, 2021, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: DegenerateDish on May 12, 2021, 02:09:35 PM
I'm quite frankly shocked by how many prime appearances the Bears are getting for the 2021 season. Multiple SNF & MNF games as well as Thanksgiving.

I know people are excited for Fields, but this can easily be a 4-12 squad this upcoming season.

Ratings > Record

tower912

#159
May 12, 2021, 04:00:44 PM Last Edit: May 12, 2021, 05:14:50 PM by tower912
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

CreightonWarrior

#160
May 12, 2021, 04:37:55 PM
Packers signing Bortles. Who needs Aaron?

BrewCity83

#161
May 12, 2021, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: CreightonWarrior on May 12, 2021, 04:37:55 PM
Packers signing Bortles. Who needs Aaron?

The Pack wanted a veteran backup anyway.  A contender can't go through an NFL season with only 2 QBs on the roster.  Aaron will be back.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

MU82

#162
May 12, 2021, 04:52:29 PM
Panthers will open at home against the Jets - Darnold against his former team. If the NFL really wanted to be clever, they would have put the game in Joisey.
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Uncle Rico

#163
May 12, 2021, 05:15:56 PM
Quote from: BrewCity83 on May 12, 2021, 04:45:53 PM
The Pack wanted a veteran backup anyway.  A contender can't go through an NFL season with only 2 QBs on the roster.  Aaron will be back.

Bortles can lose just as well as Rodgers in a conference championship game, so it's a wash really
Guster is for Lovers

cheebs09

#164
May 12, 2021, 06:25:32 PM
Bortle Kombat!

shoothoops

#165
May 12, 2021, 08:39:57 PM Last Edit: May 13, 2021, 07:54:00 AM by shoothoops
Quote from: JWags85 on May 04, 2021, 10:39:16 PM
That was a stupid insinuation then and still is one now, that Bradshaw, however, has always had the self awareness to play into.  He's never taken himself too seriously, something old ARod could learn from.

He also was a consummate leader who butted heads with Noll constantly but remained professional and successful, and multiple times fought to keep his spot when the Steelers brought in other QBs.

Bradshaw has been also wildly successful off because he's warm and affable and funny and charming.   He's basically the anti-Rodgers

Wait, what? TB?

"I wasn't that close to any of my teammates. I didn't find anyone to become a best friend. We don't stay in touch. They're all over the country, but I do not want to stay in touch." -Terry Bradshaw

Skipped Art Rooney's funeral. Skipped Chuck Knoll's funeral. Asked someone he didn't know well, and didn't know for two years to induct him into the NFL HOF. He had it written into his broadcasting contract that he didn't have to do Steelers games. He avoided Pittsburgh for 20 years after he retired. He has feuded with players, coaches, admin, fans there, past and present. Former Steelers head of PR Joe Gordon called Bradshaw, "the most selfish person I have ever seen." He's been involved in more (same team) feuds than Richard Dawson. Multiple times when a player or coach has had to reschedule an interview with him while he was a broadcaster, he went on "Don't you know who I am" tirades." (I was there for a few of them)

TB was a HOF player for his big play in big moments more than stats. It shows that one doesn't have to be friends with other players, team, fans to win, and be successful.

Curious example choice in the Aaron Rodgers discussion.

Dish

#166
May 12, 2021, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on May 12, 2021, 02:46:55 PM
Ratings > Record

I don't disagree of course, I would have thought if the Bears were going to get prime coverage, it would have been front loaded in Weeks 1-8. They have a six game stretch weeks 9-15 (not including their bye week), where four of those weeks, they will be the only game on. Heck, Week 7 they'll be the Nantz/Romo game too.

Herman Cain

#167
May 13, 2021, 07:47:27 AM
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

ChitownSpaceForRent

#169
May 14, 2021, 03:42:11 PM
Bears keeping everything really quiet in regards to the rookie mini-camp. Apparently reporters are super limited in what they can say and aren't allowed to tweet out pictures or videos.

jesmu84

#170
May 14, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on May 14, 2021, 03:42:11 PM
Bears keeping everything really quiet in regards to the rookie mini-camp. Apparently reporters are super limited in what they can say and aren't allowed to tweet out pictures or videos.

Much like the white house is treating the press corps

Herman Cain

#171
May 17, 2021, 08:52:59 AM
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

cheebs09

#172
May 17, 2021, 09:21:01 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on May 17, 2021, 08:52:59 AM
A theoretical Packers Giants trade scenario

https://www.nj.com/giants/2021/05/imagining-a-giants-packers-aaron-rodgers-trade-blockbuster.html

3 first round picks would be interesting. Not sure you'd go after Jones if you think Love is the guy. I'd imagine if the Packers would go with Love, they'd sign a guy like Flacco. Non-threatening veteran.

Would continue the legacy of trading our disgruntled HOF QB to New York.

Jockey

#173
May 17, 2021, 11:37:25 AM
Quote from: cheebs09 on May 17, 2021, 09:21:01 AM
3 first round picks would be interesting. Not sure you'd go after Jones if you think Love is the guy. I'd imagine if the Packers would go with Love, they'd sign a guy like Flacco. Non-threatening veteran.

Would continue the legacy of trading our disgruntled HOF QB to New York.

Gotta remember that all of those 1st rounders would be in the 25-32 range.

jficke13

#174
May 17, 2021, 11:49:06 AM
Quote from: Jockey on May 17, 2021, 11:37:25 AM
Gotta remember that all of those 1st rounders would be in the 25-32 range.

I don't think that deal goes down, but the proposal includes one from the Bears that is likely to be higher. Besides, the logical selling point to why GB would take a deal like this is to have ammo to move up to get another top shelf QB pick if Love doesn't pan out, so the exact # of what comes back is less the headline.
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