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MarquetteDano

April 22, 2021, 08:32:19 AM
As of the time of this post there have been 3.3 millions deaths in the US in 2020.  I think we are still getting adjustments. 

The Census Bureau expected 2.75 million.  So that is 550,000 more deaths than expected just in 2020.

For those who believe that the deaths number is inflated for COVID I presume we do not trust the Census Bureau number of expected deaths for 2020?  Do we find the Census Bureau often under/over estimates the number of deaths in a given year?

Frenns Liquor Depot

#1
April 22, 2021, 10:25:14 AM
I am pretty sure the 1st answer is - "They are overcounting to promote hysteria"

When confronted with the numbers it shifts to "This is unavoidable why are you making a big deal and causing hysteria"

Did I do that right?

tower912

#2
April 22, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
Followed by 'they're lying to make Trump look bad.'
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

#3
April 22, 2021, 02:17:44 PM
Missed the intermediate argument that they are all suicides due to lockdown.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

The Sultan

#4
December 23, 2021, 05:48:50 AM
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

#5
December 23, 2021, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 22, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
Followed by 'they're lying to make Trump look bad.'
Thanks MU82

tower912

#6
December 23, 2021, 08:40:30 AM
The nicest thing anyone is likely to say to me today.   Thanks.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

lawdog77

#7
December 23, 2021, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: tower912 on December 23, 2021, 08:40:30 AM
The nicest thing anyone is likely to say to me today.   Thanks.
It is Festivus, after all.

Pakuni

#9
March 11, 2022, 02:07:56 PM
Quote from: pacearrow02 on March 11, 2022, 11:37:17 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/massachusetts-reports-significant-overcount-of-covid-deaths/2665981/%3famp

Good news!!

With this adjustment, only 20,000 people in Massachusetts died from COVID.
Good news? That's GREAT news!
How should we celebrate the deaths of 20,000 people?

jesmu84

#10
March 11, 2022, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: Pakuni on March 11, 2022, 02:07:56 PM
With this adjustment, only 20,000 people in Massachusetts died from COVID.
Good news? That's GREAT news!
How should we celebrate the deaths of 20,000 people?

The people they have decided didn't die from covid as the cause are still dead though, right?

What are we celebrating here?

lostpassword

#11
March 11, 2022, 06:55:35 PM
Quote from: jesmu84 on March 11, 2022, 02:46:53 PM
The people they have decided didn't die from covid as the cause are still dead though, right?

What are we celebrating here?

Same reaction.  It is news. Why good?  Glad there was correction to inaccuracies maybe but don't sense that was the intent of the post.

Hards Alumni

#12
March 15, 2022, 06:02:18 PM
Wastewater plants show an uptick in covid poop.   So... take that for what it is.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

#15
March 21, 2022, 09:35:07 PM
Imagine celebrating 1,300 kids dying as an "aha! Gotcha!".
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

pacearrow02

#16
March 21, 2022, 10:35:49 PM
Quote from: ZaLiN on March 21, 2022, 09:35:07 PM
Imagine celebrating 1,300 kids dying as an "aha! Gotcha!".

Ya, cause that's what I said. 

pacearrow02

#17
March 24, 2022, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: MarquetteDano on April 22, 2021, 08:32:19 AM
As of the time of this post there have been 3.3 millions deaths in the US in 2020.  I think we are still getting adjustments. 

The Census Bureau expected 2.75 million.  So that is 550,000 more deaths than expected just in 2020.

For those who believe that the deaths number is inflated for COVID I presume we do not trust the Census Bureau number of expected deaths for 2020?  Do we find the Census Bureau often under/over estimates the number of deaths in a given year?

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/health/alcohol-deaths-covid.html

Do you know if there is more broken down data for cause of death estimates the CDC had for 2020?  I think the only way to get an answer to your question is to break it down and see what was expected for more specific reasons and what was realized to get a better understanding if Covid deaths were missed or not.

rocky_warrior

#18
March 24, 2022, 12:18:44 PM
Quote from: pacearrow02 on March 24, 2022, 12:10:55 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/22/health/alcohol-deaths-covid.html

Do you know if there is more broken down data for cause of death estimates the CDC had for 2020?  I think the only way to get an answer to your question is to break it down and see what was expected for more specific reasons and what was realized to get a better understanding if Covid deaths were missed or not.

The CDC has excess death calculations, tracked before covid:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
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