Big East 2021-2022 Season Thread

[bilsu]

Shaka is a better coach than Wojo.  Results may be similar

Wojo had only one first round draft choice and no 2nd round draft choices. Shaka had more and did no better.
I understand the Wojo hate, but I do not see where Shaka is a better coach. He is more defensive minded while Wojo was more offensive minded.

[wadesworld]

Wojo had only one first round draft choice and no 2nd round draft choices. Shaka had more and did no better.
I understand the Wojo hate, but I do not see where Shaka is a better coach. He is more defensive minded while Wojo was more offensive minded.

Well, Shaka does have a Final Four under his belt. That's a pretty big difference between him and Wojo.

[Uncle Rico]

Well, Shaka does have a Final Four under his belt. That's a pretty big difference between him and Wojo.

This will get misinterpreted and that's fine because nuance is lost so often but that Final Four was a fluky run.  He did a great job at VCU.  It's not easy to consistently make the tournament there.  That was more impressive than the Final 4 to me big picture-wise.  But his time at Texas gives me pause.  There's more than a few coaches who have made one final 4 and never sniffed another.  If he's more VCU at Marquette than Texas, then it's a good chance he'll have consistent success.  If it's his time at Texas, eh.  For me, I really feel like we'll know a lot by spring of 2022, we really will

[Mr. Nielsen]

I saw scheduled for UConn, Seton Hall & PC above.  Checking websites, It looks like only Villanova has yet to post something for 2021-22:

Butler:
https://butlersports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

Creighton:
https://gocreighton.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

St. Johns:
https://redstormsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

Xavier:
https://goxavier.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

DePaul:
https://depaulbluedemons.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

Georgetown:
https://guhoyas.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

Marquette:
https://gomarquette.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule/2021-22

Villanova: 
Still showing the 2020-21 schedule.

Villanova
Nov. 9 vs. Mount St. Mary's
Nov. 12 at UCLA
Nov. 16 Howard

Hall of Fame Tip-Off in Uncasville, CT.
Nov. 20 vs. Tennessee
Nov. 21 vs. North Carolina or Purdue

Nov. 28 at La Salle (The Palestra)
Dec. 1 at Pennsylvania
Dec. 4 vs. St. Joseph's

Jimmy V Classic in New York, NY
Dec. 7 vs. Syracuse

Dec. 12 at Baylor (BE-B12 Challenge)
Dec. 29 Temple

[Its DJOver]

Coaching in college basketball is very much a "what have you done for me recently" business.  Shaka has a FF yes, but there's a very real chance that he goes a decade without a tourney win, so I can certainly understand if there are some hesitations regarding his overall body of work.

[wadesworld]

He's lost some of his best players to season ending injuries in multiple different seasons. If you want to say a Final Four run is fluky, then so to us a first round loss. So last year's 3 seed should be an encouraging sign. We hired a guy who just coached his team to a 3 seed in the Tournament. Which would be one of the highest seeds in MU history, and tied for highest in my lifetime.

[Uncle Rico]

He's lost some of his best players to season ending injuries in multiple different seasons. If you want to say a Final Four run is fluky, then so to us a first round loss. So last year's 3 seed should be an encouraging sign. We hired a guy who just coached his team to a 3 seed in the Tournament. Which would be one of the highest seeds in MU history, and tied for highest in my lifetime.

Yup, there's bad luck and good luck in March.  🤷🏼‍♂️

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

The theory is also that Shaka was not a cultural fit at Texas but will be one at Marquette. Could be phoey, but there's a few pieces about it that I buy

[Uncle Rico]

The theory is also that Shaka was not a cultural fit at Texas but will be one at Marquette. Could be phoey, but there's a few pieces about it that I buy

I can believe this as well.  I don't dismiss that at all.

[Herman Cain]

Three Man Weave put up their Big East preview today on their website.

If you haven't seen their podcast or website, well worth it. Very in depth.

https://www.three-man-weave.com/3mw/big-east-2021-22-preview

Thanks for posting . These guys do in depth work.

I have some differences with their conclusions though. I have Villanova and U Conn as Tier 1 and everyone else fighting tooth and nail to be at the top of Tier 2 . When I look at the rest of the league I think MU can compete for that 3rd spot .

[dgies9156]

This will get misinterpreted and that's fine because nuance is lost so often but that Final Four was a fluky run.  He did a great job at VCU.  It's not easy to consistently make the tournament there.  That was more impressive than the Final 4 to me big picture-wise.  But his time at Texas gives me pause.  There's more than a few coaches who have made one final 4 and never sniffed another.  If he's more VCU at Marquette than Texas, then it's a good chance he'll have consistent success.  If it's his time at Texas, eh.  For me, I really feel like we'll know a lot by spring of 2022, we really will

Brother Rico:

Absolutely. Let's see how far he goes with what he has.

[Billy Hoyle]

another big commitment for Mike Anderson and St. John's.  The question was whether he could recruit NYC. Well, 8 guys (with this year's commitments) are NYC guys and MA has established a strong Our Savior Lutheran pipeline going. The Van Macon hire is proving to be a huge one. 

https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/jaquan-sanders-commits-to-st-johns-over-seton-hall/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

[Uncle Rico]

another big commitment for Mike Anderson and St. John's.  The question was whether he could recruit NYC. Well, 8 guys (with this year's commitments) are NYC guys and MA has established a strong Our Savior Lutheran pipeline going. The Van Macon hire is proving to be a huge one. 

https://nypost.com/2021/09/14/jaquan-sanders-commits-to-st-johns-over-seton-hall/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

He's doing good work.  Didn't like the hire but he's proven me wrong. 

[Billy Hoyle]

He's doing good work.  Didn't like the hire but he's proven me wrong.

the big question is whether he can win in the postseason. One Elite Eight (Mizzou) and one Sweet 16 (UAB) but other than that, seven first or second round exits. His style definitely appeals to NYC kids.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He's doing good work.  Didn't like the hire but he's proven me wrong.

I thought he was a solid hire, but I'm not certain what he's proven at this point. In two seasons he's 0-fer on making the postseason (yes, COVID cancelled one of them but they weren't making it without running the table at the BET). Is recruiting highly rated prospects proof of a good hire? By that standard, Wojo was fantastic!

the big question is whether he can win in the postseason. One Elite Eight (Mizzou) and one Sweet 16 (UAB) but other than that, seven first or second round exits. His style definitely appeals to NYC kids.

Win in the postseason? I think he needs to answer whether or not he can make the postseason at SJU first.

And again, I thought he was a solid hire and would not be surprised to see SJU take off under him. Just haven't seen the proof yet.

[brewcity77]

I feel like St John's fell backwards into a decent hire. Considering how bad that process went, they should feel very fortunate.

[Herman Cain]

I feel like St John's fell backwards into a decent hire. Considering how bad that process went, they should feel very fortunate.

That is exactly what happened and they are indeed very lucky. 

[Uncle Rico]

I thought he was a solid hire, but I'm not certain what he's proven at this point. In two seasons he's 0-fer on making the postseason (yes, COVID cancelled one of them but they weren't making it without running the table at the BET). Is recruiting highly rated prospects proof of a good hire? By that standard, Wojo was fantastic!

Win in the postseason? I think he needs to answer whether or not he can make the postseason at SJU first.

And again, I thought he was a solid hire and would not be surprised to see SJU take off under him. Just haven't seen the proof yet.

Those are fair points in discussing Anderson.  He recruited well at Arkansas but they always seemed to be stuck in neutral and we've seen some of that at St. John's.  Given where the league is right now, plenty of windows are open for any program to take off

[Golden Avalanche]

I thought he was a solid hire, but I'm not certain what he's proven at this point. In two seasons he's 0-fer on making the postseason (yes, COVID cancelled one of them but they weren't making it without running the table at the BET). Is recruiting highly rated prospects proof of a good hire? By that standard, Wojo was fantastic!

Win in the postseason? I think he needs to answer whether or not he can make the postseason at SJU first.

And again, I thought he was a solid hire and would not be surprised to see SJU take off under him. Just haven't seen the proof yet.

This is the story.

People somehow thinking Anderson has already answered the questions goes to the theory that attention spans are five minutes long in the best case.

[MU82]

I thought he was a solid hire, but I'm not certain what he's proven at this point. In two seasons he's 0-fer on making the postseason (yes, COVID cancelled one of them but they weren't making it without running the table at the BET). Is recruiting highly rated prospects proof of a good hire? By that standard, Wojo was fantastic!

Win in the postseason? I think he needs to answer whether or not he can make the postseason at SJU first.

And again, I thought he was a solid hire and would not be surprised to see SJU take off under him. Just haven't seen the proof yet.

Bingo.

We'll see.

[Herman Cain]

If Anderson has any kind of traction with the Program, The Johnnie fans will come out of the woodwork in swarms  .

I remember back in the Mullin days , there were so many working class people in the city backing the team, many had no connection to the school .

We saw a little bit of that kind of response when Mike Jarvis had the team going well.

[Litehouse]

Any estimates on when the Big East is going to release the conference schedule?  It's already much later than usual.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Any estimates on when the Big East is going to release the conference schedule?  It's already much later than usual.

MU student tickets on sale this week yet no BE schedule announcement clues yet. Has to be this week to hype single tickets and packs with MM.

Also, with a later Winter school start, the game packs may get heavily promoted in larger bundles as the inventory, including "Be a Student", is larger. <Speculation>

[The Sultan]

Someone mentioned on another board that the NBA schedule was released later than usual, and with the number of shared arenas, that could be why the BE schedule is later.

[Warrior of Law]

I'm finding this delay rather annoying.  With digital tickets, if you have make a slight change, how hard can it be?