Big East 2021-2022 Season Thread

[Herman Cain]

Villanova & UCLA signed a H/H. Wildcats will be at UCLA on Friday, Nov. 12th.

So UCLA is a partial member of the Big East since they are playing MU as well.

Villanova game should be good visibility for the league also.

[Billy Hoyle]

Looks like Creighton has opted for a less challenging Non Conference than in years past. 

https://gocreighton.com/news/2021/7/29/mens-basketball-announces-non-conference-schedule.aspx

still a decent schedule. Not too challenging but full of buy games either. Need to rack up wins in the non-conference with as strong as the BE is and how young CU is. Big Ten, Pac-12 (possibly 2), Big 12, BYU, maybe the Fightin' Wardles.

St John's should rack up some wins in theirs, leaving NYC once...for Long Island.

https://redstormsports.com/documents/2021/7/28/2021_22_St_John_s_MBB_Schedule_072821_FINAL.pdf

[Herman Cain]

still a decent schedule. Not too challenging but full of buy games either. Need to rack up wins in the non-conference with as strong as the BE is and how young CU is. Big Ten, Pac-12 (possibly 2), Big 12, BYU, maybe the Fightin' Wardles.

St John's should rack up some wins in theirs, leaving NYC once...for Long Island.

https://redstormsports.com/documents/2021/7/28/2021_22_St_John_s_MBB_Schedule_072821_FINAL.pdf

I like the Johnny Schedule. Big East needs to be racking up wins.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

St John's should rack up some wins in theirs, leaving NYC once...for Long Island.

https://redstormsports.com/documents/2021/7/28/2021_22_St_John_s_MBB_Schedule_072821_FINAL.pdf

I didn't know Assembly Hall was actually in NYC 

[Galway Eagle]

I didn't know Assembly Hall was actually in NYC 

I mean Bloomington is the NYC of mid-southeast Indiana so I think it counts

[Billy Hoyle]

Big time commitment for St. John's - #49 nationally (and former Illinois pledge) AJ Storr. Anderson is building something good in Queens.

[Billy Hoyle]

not good news at Butler. Scooby Johnson charged with sexual assault, no longer in school. Some pretty hard evidence against him too.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2021/08/12/butler-basketball-player-scooby-johnson-accused-rape/8113666002/

Probable cause affidavit at the bottom of this story from Scooby's hometown paper:

https://wsbt.com/news/local/former-benton-harbor-basketball-star-facing-rape-charges

[Herman Cain]

not good news at Butler. Scooby Johnson charged with sexual assault, no longer in school. Some pretty hard evidence against him too.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2021/08/12/butler-basketball-player-scooby-johnson-accused-rape/8113666002/

Probable cause affidavit at the bottom of this story from Scooby's hometown paper:

https://wsbt.com/news/local/former-benton-harbor-basketball-star-facing-rape-charges

As our fearless leader would say, Next Man Up at Butler.

[Herman Cain]

Creighton picked up a 2022 point guard , who all had interest from Butler and Xavier among others .

https://247sports.com/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Creighton-commit-Ben-Shtolzberg-169166697/

[Billy Hoyle]

Creighton picked up a 2022 point guard , who all had interest from Butler and Xavier among others .

https://247sports.com/Article/Basketball-recruiting-Creighton-commit-Ben-Shtolzberg-169166697/

It's a good thing they fired McDermott. Their recruiting was going to be dead with him...

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

It's a good thing they fired McDermott. Their recruiting was going to be dead with him...

I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with your premise. But using the commitment of a currently unranked (by 247Composite) White dude as proof isn't the strongest case. The 2021 class on the other hand...

[wadesworld]

2021 cla$$ wa$ $igned before player$ were allowed to profit off of their name, image, and likene$$.  Creighton wa$ proving to offer more to recruit$ on that front than $ome other $chool$ were, which can possibly help make up for a raci$t remark from a coach.  Now that all recruit$ can make money without it being under the table, we'll $ee how Creighton'$ recruiting i$.

[Billy Hoyle]

2021 cla$$ wa$ $igned before player$ were allowed to profit off of their name, image, and likene$$.  Creighton wa$ proving to offer more to recruit$ on that front than $ome other $chool$ were, which can possibly help make up for a raci$t remark from a coach.  Now that all recruit$ can make money without it being under the table, we'll $ee how Creighton'$ recruiting i$.

proof of that?

[Its DJOver]

I'd say Justin Patton, followed by a lack of punishment following Justin Patton, followed by, I believe, being caught on a wire tap.  If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

[mugrad_89]

Justin Patton?  He was a tall skinny kid with a very limited offensive game when he got to Creighton, and he redshirted his first year.  Not a good example to use.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Justin Patton?  He was a tall skinny kid with a very limited offensive game when he got to Creighton, and he redshirted his first year.  Not a good example to use.

His cash satchel was well-equipped, though. Creighton was just handed NCAA sanctions because of his recruitment.  Of course, it took four summer for the NCAA to get to that point.

[Its DJOver]

Justin Patton?  He was a tall skinny kid with a very limited offensive game when he got to Creighton, and he redshirted his first year.  Not a good example to use.

His basketball ability is irrelevant. His appearance on the FBI's wiretap investigation regarding the payment of recruits to attend certain universities isn't.

[Herman Cain]

Butler picked up a 2022 Center recently. From what I have read he is a late bloomer .

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/butler/2021/07/01/recruiting-2022-big-man-connor-turnbull-commits-butler-basketball/7820358002/

[Billy Hoyle]

I'd say Justin Patton, followed by a lack of punishment following Justin Patton, followed by, I believe, being caught on a wire tap.  If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

I didn't realize Patton was in the 2021 recruiting class.

[Its DJOver]

I didn't realize Patton was in the 2021 recruiting class.

Once a cheater, always a cheater. Especially if the punishments are so minor that they have no effect at all. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

Is this the year we can finally start hating other Big East teams? That's maybe the thing I miss most about the old BE. I am sick of detente and the banning of the "Hey, you suck" chant (with the infamous Lar's admonishment letter that Pilarz ghost wrote for him).

Seton Hall is as close as it gets for MU but I don't know that it is reciprocated. No Red Pleatherneckers, Couch Burners, Domers, Pitt New Yorkers, Jimmy B the Douche. Hell, UCONN and Calhoun didn't even make our hate list. The Blue Demon candle died out a long time ago when we joined them in the basement.

[fjm]

Justin Patton?  He was a tall skinny kid with a very limited offensive game when he got to Creighton, and he redshirted his first year.  Not a good example to use.

Paying players only matters if they are good in high school or have a high rating?

Sweet. Good to know!

[Herman Cain]

Is this the year we can finally start hating other Big East teams? That's maybe the thing I miss most about the old BE. I am sick of detente and the banning of the "Hey, you suck" chant (with the infamous Lar's admonishment letter that Pilarz ghost wrote for him).

Seton Hall is as close as it gets for MU but I don't know that it is reciprocated. No Red Pleatherneckers, Couch Burners, Domers, Pitt New Yorkers, Jimmy B the Douche. Hell, UCONN and Calhoun didn't even make our hate list. The Blue Demon candle died out a long time ago when we joined them in the basement.

Going by the Douche Bag quality of their  fans at The Big East Tournament I would endorse both U Conn and The Hall as hate worthy.

[MUfan12]

I thought there was some potential with X and Creighton, for different reasons. But even those seemed to fizzle out.

[DFW HOYA]

The rivalries are different because the fan bases are. Gone are the days every Syracuse fan would be walking down the steps at the Garden balancing two beers and a pretzel for the early round games (to be followed by the inevitable fight in the stands during the 2:00 afternoon game). West Virginia wasn't endearing and some fan bases never showed up to begin with (South Florida, Rutgers, Cincinnati).

Excepting Marquette and Georgetown, the fan bases from least to most annoying from the Big East tournament:

1. DePaul, because they're never there.
2. Butler, always polite, and often gone early.
3. Creighton, polite, and usually older.
4. Xavier, but they stay to themselves.
5. St. John's, but most of the old fan base has been burned out by now.
6. Providence, with some New England swagger
7. Seton Hall, with some Jersey swagger
8. Villanova, who still shows up in big numbers as compared to most schools. 

..and the new (old) champion of most annoying:

9. Connecticut. They will buy every available seat. They will fill the bowels of Penn Station from the New Haven Line and cannot be ignored. They are back to win.