Tyler Kolek to MU

[BCHoopster]

Litehouse

I am not a big fan of traditional players, but I am really excited about this addition. It looks like this kid is is tough, likely cocky (my kind of player) and has some real game. It looks like another piece of the puzzle has been filled in.

Big question, can he guard Colin Gillespie?

[Goose]

BC


At this moment I would say yes, let's see when the kid is back in action.

[4everwarriors]

Will Tyler be more like Travis Diener or Jake Thomas?  Or Diener/Thomas in a blender?
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[wildbillsb]

Still one of my favorite "turn off my brain and laugh" movies

Which movie?

[MU82]

My main concern about Tyler is that he is a volume 3-point shooter -- nearly 7 a game, 3x as many 2s as he attempted -- and .358 is not a great percentage for a chucker.

For example, notable chucker Matt Carlino also averaged 7 treys a game his season at Marquette, but he shot at a much more palatable .419 clip. Rowsey averaged 7 attempts a game in his two Marquette seasons, shooting .426. As a senior, Markus averaged 10 treys a game and was the focus of every defense he faced, and yet he still hit .412.

So I hope Tyler's shooting either improves or he is a little more selective about which 3s he takes.

[Daniel]

My main concern about Tyler is that he is a volume 3-point shooter -- nearly 7 a game, 3x as many 2s as he attempted -- and .358 is not a great percentage for a chucker.

For example, notable chucker Matt Carlino also averaged 7 treys a game his season at Marquette, but he shot at a much more palatable .419 clip. Rowsey averaged 7 attempts a game in his two Marquette seasons, shooting .426. As a senior, Markus averaged 10 treys a game and was the focus of every defense he faced, and yet he still hit .412.

So I hope Tyler's shooting either improves or he is a little more selective about which 3s he takes.

Yeah I didn’t understand the excitement over his three point shooting percentage.   But then again, there is always room for improvement and he might make the next leap.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

My main concern about Tyler is that he is a volume 3-point shooter -- nearly 7 a game, 3x as many 2s as he attempted -- and .358 is not a great percentage for a chucker.

For example, notable chucker Matt Carlino also averaged 7 treys a game his season at Marquette, but he shot at a much more palatable .419 clip. Rowsey averaged 7 attempts a game in his two Marquette seasons, shooting .426. As a senior, Markus averaged 10 treys a game and was the focus of every defense he faced, and yet he still hit .412.

So I hope Tyler's shooting either improves or he is a little more selective about which 3s he takes.

Carlino never shot better than 34% on 3's until he got to Marquette.

[MU82]

Carlino never shot better than 34% on 3's until he got to Marquette.

Yeah, I saw that, too. So, as I said, I hope Tyler's 3-point shooting improves. We all should hope for that, including Tyler.

He apparently is a hard worker, so get er done!

[wadesworld]

Some people who know ball better than me say we’ve got our shooter. So we’ve got our shooter.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Which movie?

[Hards Alumni]

Our generation's Caddyshack

[tower912]

Super Troopers 2 was better than Caddyshack 2

[MU82]

Some people who know ball better than me say we’ve got our shooter. So we’ve got our shooter.

Even if Kolek is "our shooter," teams that actually want to win college basketball games nowadays need more than one guy who can consistently knock down 3s. It was no coincidence that Baylor and Gonzaga were great shooting teams. Baylor, for all their athletic ability, defensive pressure, etc, led the nation in 3-point shooting. That's basketball now.

Kolek could improve substantially, as so many players -- including Greg Elliott -- have. Elliott shot .367 his first year, .413 his second and .455 his third. Of course, he rarely got to play his first year and even his second, while Kolek played a ton as a freshman. But as Lazar pointed out, Carlino didn't become a good 3-point shooter until his senior season.

Players DO improve. It's one of the things some people seem to forget when talking about DJ, Lewis and/or Garcia, too. (Not saying you, wades.)

[CTWarrior]

Super Troopers 2 was better than Caddyshack 2

My colonoscopy was better than Caddyshack 2.

[Goose]

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You are correct on players potentially improving over their career. Theo and Cain are both examples of that. That said, you have to have a starting point and I am hopeful that the three remaining guys show similar improvement next season. Their starting point is higher than the other guys ceiling.

[Big Papi]

There are factors that can bump that percentage up without any actual improvement in his shot.  If defenses keyed on him or he was told to chuck it whenever possible, or there was no other offensive threat on that team, could all be reasons that his percentage wasn't a little higher.  Surround him with better talent and Shaka defines what is or is not good shot selection and he could see his percentage improve.  I don't know anything about this kid and I am not going to pour over all of his game film.  His form looks good to me.  If he is a logo shooter and everyone says he is a good shooter, he is going to be a good shooter next year and that will only improve with time.

My concern with him is athleticism and defensive athleticism at that.

[Goose]

BLM

Thanks for the mention. Nice to see you back after your timeout. Hopefully lessons were learned while you were on scoop vacation.

[jesmu84]

BLM

Thanks for the mention. Nice to see you back after your timeout. Hopefully lessons were learned while you were on scoop vacation.

Cool

[MUDPT]

79% FT shooter, usually means a good 3 point shooter.

[MU82]

There are factors that can bump that percentage up without any actual improvement in his shot.  If defenses keyed on him or he was told to chuck it whenever possible, or there was no other offensive threat on that team, could all be reasons that his percentage wasn't a little higher.  Surround him with better talent and Shaka defines what is or is not good shot selection and he could see his percentage improve.  I don't know anything about this kid and I am not going to pour over all of his game film.  His form looks good to me.  If he is a logo shooter and everyone says he is a good shooter, he is going to be a good shooter next year and that will only improve with time.

My concern with him is athleticism and defensive athleticism at that.

Lots of great points in there, Papi.

[wadesworld]

BLM

Thanks for the mention. Nice to see you back after your timeout. Hopefully lessons were learned while you were on scoop vacation.

Appreciate it.  Here's to hoping our 35% shooting sniper from the A10 outshoots our 45% meh 3 point shooter in the Big East if the latter is getting OutSmarted.

[4everwarriors]

You were right the first time when sayin' "what do I know?", hey?

[MikeDeanesDarkGlasses]

My main concern about Tyler is that he is a volume 3-point shooter -- nearly 7 a game, 3x as many 2s as he attempted -- and .358 is not a great percentage for a chucker.

For example, notable chucker Matt Carlino also averaged 7 treys a game his season at Marquette, but he shot at a much more palatable .419 clip. Rowsey averaged 7 attempts a game in his two Marquette seasons, shooting .426. As a senior, Markus averaged 10 treys a game and was the focus of every defense he faced, and yet he still hit .412.

So I hope Tyler's shooting either improves or he is a little more selective about which 3s he takes.

And what are the 3 point shooting statistics for Freshmen?  While 3 point shooting is important- ball handling, tempo control, ball movement, leadership are more important as they are huge needs for this offense right now.  If those categories do not improve, this team doesn't either.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Was watching The MLB Network tonight and they mentioned Tyler Kolek. Had to do a double take. They were talking about Tyler Frank Kolek who was drafted by the Miami Marlins with the 2nd Overall Pick in The 2014 Major League Baseball Draft. Not the A-10 Freshman of the Year Different Tyler Kolek. Whew

[MU82]

And what are the 3 point shooting statistics for Freshmen?  While 3 point shooting is important- ball handling, tempo control, ball movement, leadership are more important as they are huge needs for this offense right now.  If those categories do not improve, this team doesn't either.

Not sure what point you're trying to make.

The 3-point shooting for some freshmen was great (Markus, Sam). For others, not so great.

Most players who get the chance and who are committed improve. I hope Tyler does.

And yes, we need all the things you point out, that's no secret.