TBT 2021

[#UnleashSean]

Tbt team renamed from Golden eagles to warriors.


https://mobile.twitter.com/GoldenEaglesTBT/status/1396878806116405251

[brewcity77]

Holy hell what are they thinking?!? The Ultimate Warrior was a racist homophobe. This is far, far worse than Gold.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59y3nb/wwe-is-whitewashing-the-ultimate-warriors-bigoted-past

[jficke13]

literally the ONLY thing I know about TUW is that he was a Very Bad Man. The very first thing I thought of when I saw the announcement was "hmm, this probably wasn't a good idea."

Cool logo though. Stripped of the "Ultimate" part of the name and it was probably fine? (honestly have no idea how the imagery connects to the dude).

[The Lens]

Holy hell what are they thinking?!? The Ultimate Warrior was a racist homophobe. This is far, far worse than Gold.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59y3nb/wwe-is-whitewashing-the-ultimate-warriors-bigoted-past

We're not the Ultimate Warrior...we're the Ultimate Warriors

That "S" is very important and distinctive. 

[harryp]

Good Grief! Have you got it right!!! After over 20 years, it's boring.  It happened before most of today's students and many alumni were born. Give it up!

[cheebs09]

literally the ONLY thing I know about TUW is that he was a Very Bad Man. The very first thing I thought of when I saw the announcement was "hmm, this probably wasn't a good idea."

Cool logo though. Stripped of the "Ultimate" part of the name and it was probably fine? (honestly have no idea how the imagery connects to the dude).

The logo looks to match his face paint.

Even without the Ultimate Warrior part, a little surprised they'd go the Warriors route due to the team's connection to the university.

[wadesworld]

How long until Heise starts a thread asking if this was actually the MU administration getting the TBT team to do this, knowing there would be uproar and hoping it ruins the Warriors nickname so the fanbase can stop talking about bringing back Warriors?

[Billy Hoyle]

Holy hell what are they thinking?!? The Ultimate Warrior was a racist homophobe. This is far, far worse than Gold.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59y3nb/wwe-is-whitewashing-the-ultimate-warriors-bigoted-past

yeah, not a good decision. It's bad enough to call themselves the "Ultimate Warriors" but to have the logo that makes it seem like they're honoring the guy, wow, who messed up on that one.

[#UnleashSean]

Little rough that the logo looks quite a bit like the guts face paint eh?

[jfp61]

Holy hell what are they thinking?!? The Ultimate Warrior was a racist homophobe. This is far, far worse than Gold.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/59y3nb/wwe-is-whitewashing-the-ultimate-warriors-bigoted-past

I mean if you're gonna go that way just make it the warriors and say its an omage to the teams of the 70's more than anything.

I think were dropping the ball on how weird it is to name your team after a WWE wrestler in the first place

[Galway Eagle]

This is a poor idea. Some incorporation of Warriors would've been a clever way for MUBB alumni to endorse the Warriors name but why they went the route of the Ultimate Warrior, when everybody with Google knows how toxic he is, is beyond me.

[JWags85]

This is a poor idea. Some incorporation of Warriors would've been a clever way for MUBB alumni to endorse the Warriors name but why they went the route of the Ultimate Warrior, when everybody with Google knows how toxic he is, is beyond me.

Lebron wore an Ultimate Warrior shirt a few years ago during the CLE-GS Finals and people loved it and thought it was clever, so I wonder how much people are truly irked by him

[Herman Cain]

All I care about is that our MU squad wins.

[GoldenWarrior11]

WWE lawyers will have a fun afternoon.

[jficke13]

Lebron wore an Ultimate Warrior shirt a few years ago during the CLE-GS Finals and people loved it and thought it was clever, so I wonder how much people are truly irked by him

True, if it weren't for TUW getting his turn under the twitter microscope a few years ago that stuck in the dustbin of my mind, I wouldn't know who he is at all. I wonder what the crossover of oldtimey wrasslin' fans and TBT fans is.

[Skip Intro]

This is a poor idea. Some incorporation of Warriors would've been a clever way for MUBB alumni to endorse the Warriors name but why they went the route of the Ultimate Warrior, when everybody with Google knows how toxic he is, is beyond me.

I honestly had no clue about the post-wrestling history of Ultimate Warrior, but I'm not a wrestling fan at all - perhaps it's common knowledge amongst wrestling fans.  Then again, maybe they didn't even think to Google the guy's background, and they were just kids when he said most of this stuff.

That being said, I don't think it'd take much to get them to reconsider the name - the Hurricane Katrina and Heath Ledger comments alone should be enough to eliminate any homage to the guy.

[TallTitan34]

Friend had an interesting take, though he even acknowledged it might be a stretch. 

Is it possible to separate the actor from the character? 

[MU82]

Ugh.

[#UnleashSean]

To me it seems very strange that the marquette tbt team would do much of anything for a wwe guy.


Is it possible the tbt guys wanted to play under warriors, but also needed something in front? They pick ultimate for some reason, then the designer guys went with it and did something very similar to the wwe guy?

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

No me gusta

[TallTitan34]

Friend had an interesting take, though he even acknowledged it might be a stretch. 

Is it possible to separate the actor from the character?

As I think more about this question...

I love the characters of the Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, etc.  But I also know the guys that play them are bad guys (racist/homophobe, racist, wife beater).  In that sense I can separate the actor and the character.

On the flip side, I wouldn't want my team called the Cliff Huxtables even though I enjoy that character.

[Galway Eagle]

To me it seems very strange that the marquette tbt team would do much of anything for a wwe guy.


Is it possible the tbt guys wanted to play under warriors, but also needed something in front? They pick ultimate for some reason, then the designer guys went with it and did something very similar to the wwe guy?

This is what I think is most likely to be what happened. I mean even the older guys on the squad couldn't have been old enough to remember him as a wrestler.

[tower912]

TUW wasn't even that good at wrestling.   Just really roided up.     But, yeah, I was a fan in the heyday.

[Coleman]

that's gonna be a no from me dog

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Friend had an interesting take, though he even acknowledged it might be a stretch. 

Is it possible to separate the actor from the character?

Maybe... but given that he legally changed his name to warrior.... pretty hard to do in his case