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Heisenberg

Young Coaches can take a while (sometimes a decade) to figure it out

Scott Drew was hired in 2003. 

His first six seasons.

Overall 81-95
B12 24-70
NCAA zero
Best NIT runner up

Wojo first six seasons

Overall 124-93
BE 59-68
NCAA zero
Best NIT Quarters

Baylor was patient with Drew and it paid off.  MU was not with Wojo.

Now MU has a new young coach.  How patient will they be with him?

Pakuni

Some might suggest they stepped into very different circumstances.

Heisenberg

Both programs were a mess when they started.

Pakuni


monkeyman34

How many scholarship restrictions did wojo walk into?  Who on the previous years MU team murdered someone?  Shaka has 12 years of head coaching experience.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on April 05, 2021, 10:49:26 PM
Some might suggest they stepped into very different circumstances.

One also worked for the dirtiest athletic department in the country. Has its perks.

But comparing Wojo to Drew is dumb.
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monkeyman34

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on April 05, 2021, 10:52:48 PM
One also worked for the dirtiest athletic department in the country. Has its perks.

But comparing Wojo to Drew is dumb.

Valparaiso is one of the dirtiest athletic departments?

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 05, 2021, 10:50:47 PM
Both programs were a mess when they started.



Comparing Marquette in 2014 with Baylor in 2003 is just silly. We had won 7 NCAA tournament games within the previous four years. A lot happened during Buzz's last year, but we were still a household name in big-time college hoops. Baylor had completely fallen off the map when Drew showed up.

MDMU04

Oh boy! Another thread about the perils of not being patient enough with Wojo!
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MU82

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 05, 2021, 10:50:47 PM
Both programs were a mess when they started.

This is Grade A Dribble, even for you!
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

buckchuckler

Did a MU player murder a teammate?  I must have missed that somehow.

Lennys Tap

Quite possibly the most ridiculous thread in Heisey history. Hard to believe, I'll concede. But quite possibly...

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: buckchuckler on April 05, 2021, 11:34:50 PM
Did a MU player murder a teammate?  I must have missed that somehow.

Amazingly, the murder wasn't the most scandalous part of the story.
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wadesworld

Heise needs some attention in his life so it's time for some shock value on Scoop.

MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on April 05, 2021, 10:48:36 PM
Young Coaches can take a while (sometimes a decade) to figure it out

Scott Drew was hired in 2003. 

His first six seasons.

Overall 81-95
B12 24-70
NCAA zero
Best NIT runner up

Wojo first six seasons

Overall 124-93
BE 59-68
NCAA zero
Best NIT Quarters

Baylor was patient with Drew and it paid off.  MU was not with Wojo.

Now MU has a new young coach.  How patient will they be with him?
Agreed...


TallTitan34


JWags85

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on April 06, 2021, 12:06:42 AM
Amazingly, the murder wasn't the most scandalous part of the story.

Wut?!

MuggsyB

Quote from: TallTitan34 on April 06, 2021, 12:16:00 AM
Carton murdered Pauly Paulicap if that counts.

https://twitter.com/muoverload/status/1367196190987665416?s=21

Carton is a tremendous athlete.  Hopefully he's back with an improved J and better decision making.  I would also like to see him become a lockdown defender.

PointWarrior

Ok when I saw the graphic with 18 years of Scott Drew, I just knew someone would post this dumb crap implying Wojo should have been give more time. 


MUMonster03

Also pretty convenient to cut the comparison at 6 years (even though you used Wojo's 7 year totals) since Drew's 7th year ended with an elite eight at Baylor.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 05, 2021, 11:36:24 PM
Quite possibly the most ridiculous thread in Heisey history. Hard to believe, I'll concede. But quite possibly...

It's spectacular, really
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A projo rises from the ashes!

goldeneagle91114

Why did you wait until after Scott Drew won a national championship to post something like this? It's easy to be a "Monday morning quarterback" and draw comparisons and Hypotheticals.

Now you need to go do the same thing for Wojo and all the coaches who DIDNT  make the tournament

The Sultan

Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 06, 2021, 02:21:49 AM
Also pretty convenient to cut the comparison at 6 years (even though you used Wojo's 7 year totals) since Drew's 7th year ended with an elite eight at Baylor.


Exactly.  He's being intellectually dishonest again.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: buckchuckler on April 05, 2021, 11:34:50 PM
Did a MU player murder a teammate?  I must have missed that somehow.

Some Scoopers think a murder that doesn't make the papers is better than allegations of sexual assault (for which no charges are filed) hitting the Chicago Tribune.

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