Sy Updates on Interested Parties

[mumi27]

+/- numbers for the past season.

Overall, Symir was second to Theo.
Based on minutes played, he led the team by a sizeable margin.

                 +/-   per 40
TORRENCE   27     +3.5
JOHN           30     +1.7
McEWEN      24     +1.2
CAIN           13     +0.6
GARCIA        8      +0.4
CARTON     -11      -0.5
LEWIS        -10      -0.9
IGHODARO  - 3      -3.2
ELLIOTT      -55     -4.5
PEREZ        -32     -11.4
AKANNO     -27     -17.1

Damn, shoulda known that Torrence was the second best player on the squad this past season. +/- stats have never lied

[Goose]

For the record, BCHoopster has been around an awful lot of great basketball players and coaches over the years. I would never dismiss his appraisal of talent. I might not always agree with him, but I do know his comments are based off of a ton of experience.

[Uncle Rico]

My thoughts on him were he re-classified and probably wasn't ready as a frosh and lost his whole off-season to Covid which slowed his progress more.  The majority of the time on the court, the game seemed to move too fast for him but he flashed incredible moments of brilliance.  Wish him well at Syracuse but hope they're terrible as a team because Jim Boeheim blows. 

[Warrior of Law]

I'll admit to being really surprising that an ACC school would give him a scholarship.  MU will replace him, and potentially upgrade, and Sy was able to not sit out a year. Good for everyone involved.

[shoothoops]

Good luck to Sy at Syracuse. I appreciate his effort and attitude at MUBB.

[5DollarPitcher]

For the record, BCHoopster has been around an awful lot of great basketball players and coaches over the years. I would never dismiss his appraisal of talent. I might not always agree with him, but I do know his comments are based off of a ton of experience.

BC Hoopster or Jim Boeheim.... I really gotta think about that one.

[Johnny B]

so he could be crack the line up on a 9th place big east squad but is now gonna get time for cuse.in the acc? are they expecting no guard talent on the roster next year? playing time wise i dont get it unless u wanna say he makes massive jumps

[BrewCity83]

so he could be crack the line up on a 9th place big east squad but is now gonna get time for cuse.in the acc? are they expecting no guard talent on the roster next year? playing time wise i dont get it unless u wanna say he makes massive jumps

Moves from 9th place BigEast team to an 8th place ACC team.  Seems like a pretty much parallel move.

[Uncle Rico]

so he could be crack the line up on a 9th place big east squad but is now gonna get time for cuse.in the acc? are they expecting no guard talent on the roster next year? playing time wise i dont get it unless u wanna say he makes massive jumps

It's his hometown team and maybe being home for him is just as important as PT

[Johnny B]

sweet 16 cuse

[Goose]

5Dollar

Based off of Sy's time at MU I have zero idea if he can play at a high level or not. His freshman year I stated on here that I would play him a ton and see what he can do. Unfortunately, that did not happen and he has incomplete grade in my book. As for Boeheim taking him, I cannot give a positive or negative at this time. Coaches take guys for a lot of reasons and I hope the kid does great.

More importantly, I have read on here on 100's of times about guys being freshmen and setting realistic expectations. I think that thought process is so outdated I cannot believe it. Guys that can play, can play regardless of year in school they are. I do not want 90% of our freshmen given a free pass with old school thinking.

[tower912]

Different years IIRC. Buddy played 17's with City Rocks in 2017 (and I think some the year prior). Symir was with their 16's that year.

Welcome back.

[MUCam]

Guys that can play, can play regardless of year in school they are.

There's a lot to digest in this particular line. It's quite a generalization and one that runs contrary to the opinion most people - including a certain Al McGuire ("best thing about freshman...").

This isn't old school thinking. As a general rule of thumb, kids get better as they get older. That's just a fact. There's no comparison between a HS freshman and a HS Senior. While the difference is less at the college level, you still see a difference.

Are there freshman who are successful contributors as freshman? Of course. Does that mean they won't be better 4 years down the line? Not at all.

Freshmen get better when they become sophomores. And sophomores get better their next year. This isn't old school thinking. It's reality. They come in as 18 year old kids and leave as 22 year young men.

Anyway, enough of that silliness. I agree with you; no idea if Symir will become an integral part of the Cuse team or if he'll just be a bit player. No one knows. Not me, not you, and not even Boeheim. But Boeheim and Frank Martin and some others certainly think he has the potential. I'll put stock in their experience and opinions.

I hope he has great success. And, make no mistake about it, I hope Marquette replaces him with someone better.

[Silent Verbal]

Though they're pretty different players, perhaps Symir's situation can be compared to that of Duane Wilson's.  Duane was never really able to find his role under Wojo, and I think he was a better player than his time here suggested.  Buzz's style was a good fit for Duane, but Wojo's was not, and due to the NCAA's archaic transfer rules, he wasn't able to leave MU until it was too late.  One year at another school in another system just wasn't enough after four years of struggling to fit in at Marquette.

Symir got out with half his college career left.  Three years, if he wants it.  I'm happy he landed at a big time program and will be interested to see how he develops.  I certainly don't blame him for transferring.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

A few?

Always puzzled at people acting so hurt/angry when a player gets criticized like they're a bunch of 5th grade girls. 

Sy did well for himself.  Transferred up, that's for sure.

Good to see you are sticking with Brand Aszhole.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

I'm just hoping he doesn't end up like this guy.

[Pakuni]

Good to see you are sticking with Brand Aszhole.

Coaches and rosters may change, but some things  are constant.

[mileskishnish72]

If Symir turns out to be a player at Syracuse, it will be another example of Wojo being a horrible coach.   I wish Symir the best and hope he is great.

+1

[Newsdreams]

Different years IIRC. Buddy played 17's with City Rocks in 2017 (and I think some the year prior). Symir was with their 16's that year.

Yo JB in the house, matta

[Daniel]

Well good for Sy.   So he is back in his home area right.   I liked Sy

[RushmoreAcademy]

Who is the 5th grade girl in this situation...the college kid getting ripped on or the guy hiding behind his computer talking sh1t about a kid?

+100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

[Mutaman]

No need to crap on a kid because you're salty he missed a few shots on the court. Be better.

Does this mean we can't criticize Joey anymore? Asking for a friend.

[barfolomew]

Symir seems like a good kid and teammate and I'd like to wish him all the best, but I can't.

Instead, I'll just hope he's the leading scorer, rebounder, and assist man on a team that loses every game because unnatural carnal knowledge Syracuse and unnatural carnal knowledge Jim Boeheim with a rusty catalytic converter.

[WarriorFan]

Good luck to Sy.  The only thing I ever thought he was missing was confidence.  He came in young which probably contributed to this but then I'd hope for the coaching staff to build up his confidence but it didn't happen.  Kid's got size, handles, vision and seemingly a good attitude.  Needs to work on both aspects of his shot... mechanics and confidence.  One summer of that and I predict good things from him. 

[Hards Alumni]

Different years IIRC. Buddy played 17's with City Rocks in 2017 (and I think some the year prior). Symir was with their 16's that year.

Welcome back!