Has anyone heard anything about upcoming interviews?

[jesmu84]

So diverse means african american.

Lol

[The Sultan]

Austin Texas: 49% White 51% Non-White
Milwaukee County Wisconsin: 57% White 43% Non-White

Wow.  I'm shocked you are triggered over race....yet again.

Read up what has been happening at UT about "The Eyes of Texas" and see how an 18 year old basketball player may not feel terribly welcome at the place.  And that's not new. 

[WhiteTrash]

So diverse means african american.

Whatever. You win. 

[muwarrior69]

Wow.  I'm shocked you are triggered over race....yet again.

Read up what has been happening at UT about "The Eyes of Texas" and see how an 18 year old basketball player may not feel terribly welcome at the place.  And that's not new.

Do all the alumni live in Travis County?

A lot of kids are made to feel unwelcomed and that is not new.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/high-school-student-berated-candace-owens-black-history-project

[nyg]

Austin is in Travis County
The 5 largest ethnic groups in Travis County, TX are White (Non-Hispanic) (48.7%), White (Hispanic) (22.6%), Other (Hispanic) (8.66%), Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (7.92%), and Asian (Non-Hispanic) (6.81%).

Seriously, can you and others give it up.  Who gives a flying crap what the demographics are from Austin and other cities.  I get enough of this garbage on the TV news and people actually come to this site to get away from it.  You want to argue that stuff start a new thread in Superbar and go at it all you want.

Better to hear about coach vacancy and the crazy rumors now starting from various I heard froms and Twitter websites throwing stuff on the wall.

[muwarrior69]

Seriously, can you and others give it up.  Who gives a flying crap what the demographics are from Austin and other cities.  I get enough of this garbage on the TV news and people actually come to this site to get away from it.  You want to argue that stuff start a new thread in Superbar and go at it all you want.

Better to hear about coach vacancy and the crazy rumors now starting from various I heard froms and Twitter websites throwing stuff on the wall.

I agree, but some here care a lot about diversity when only ones achievements should be considered in choosing a new coach.

[Pakuni]

Tom Penders' Elite 8 was over 30 years ago and he coached UT in the old Southwest Conference - which wasn't exactly a hotbed of college basketball at the time.  That is a lot different than the B12 of today.

And he wasn't a bad coach.  And I never said that it was IMPOSSIBLE to win there.  It's just harder than people think.

Fair, but I'm not sure what how long ago Penders was there or the conference affiliation has to do with his tournament success. Not like they played SWC teams to get to the Sweet 16 and Elite 8.
My point was/is that it's not that hard to win at Texas, if your definition is "get into the tournament more often than not and advance most years." Two of the last three coaches did that.
Anyhow, I'd guess it's easier to win at UT today than 30 years ago. Better conference, recent success, lots of players in the NBA, new $60 million hoops facility on the way, etc.

[nyg]

I agree, but some here care a lot about diversity when only ones achievements should be considered in choosing a new coach.

No, you went to the next level discussing race.  Not basketball issue, you derailed the thread. 

Just stop and move on

[The Sultan]

I agree, but some here care a lot about diversity when only ones achievements should be considered in choosing a new coach.

Actually that was NOT the context that race was brought up whatsoever.  I mentioned that Austin and UT "isn't the most diverse place in the world" as a reason why basketball success might be more difficult than people think.

nyg is right.  You derailed the topic because anytime race is mentioned you go off the rails.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

TAMU, would you say that despite their resources, Texas is a difficult place to win?

Since around 2005, they seem to be trying to recapture their magic. I think a favorite meme of mine is the "Is Texas back?" whenever they have a small amount of success. They've seemingly have had good coaches go there and struggle in both football and basketball.

I think yes and no. The boosters at Texas are richer than God and have the athletic department wrapped around their pinkies. Basketball can be popular when it is good but when it's bad or average it's maybe 5th or 6th in line on campus. And for all the talk about "keep Austin weird" there's a lot of features that I could see making intercity recruits uncomfortable. Texas has a lot of "Wal-Mart Michigan" type fans. If you live in Texas, the default school you cheer for is Texas unless you have a connection to one of the other schools. So the student body skews very liberal while the fanbase and alumni skew very conservative which make for a fascinating case study. I've heard specifically that there were more than a few major donors who took offense to the hiring of a Black northerner for the basketball program.

But seeing how Shaka abandoned havoc at Texas, I wonder if he didn't fall into the trap of only chasing high ranked recruits. Texas is college football and recruiting class rankings is a lot bigger deal than it is in college basketball. I wouldn't be surprised if there was pressure (and temptation) to always go after the top recruits. That can work if you are a player's coach like Cal or K but if your a system coach it can be a problem. Top recruits handlers are not going to let their talent play for a coach that is going to make them play 94 feet of defense. So you compromise on your system and you end up in this weird middle ground of being a system coach charadeing as players coach.

If Shaka is the pick, the key will be what he learned at Texas. If he recognizes what went wrong and is committed to make changes to improve, he could work here. If he blames everything on Texas having unreasonable expectations and thinks he can pick up right where he left off, he should be avoided.

[Golden Avalanche]

I agree, but some here care a lot about diversity when only ones achievements should be considered in choosing a new coach.

unnatural carnal knowledge man, just stop. Turn on Outnumbered and get back to your safe space.

[Viper]

 "the student body skews very liberal while the fanbase and alumni skew very conservative which make for a fascinating case study."
Isn't that every university in the country? Definitely not unique to UT. Regarding football being king at Texas, football is king at every school that plays it, with the exception of maybe Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky.  I'm sure Shaka has learned from past misjudgments...and maybe competing with football headlines was one of them.  If Shaka is MU's guy, I'd love to know what's changed this time around for Shaka.

[Pakuni]

@CoachingChanges:
Current most attractive jobs

1) Marquette (bar set low by Wojo, great budget)
2) Indiana (wild expectations)
3) Utah (big time job can win there, pays)
4) DePaul (new arena, tradition, bar low right now)
5) College of Charleston (great spot, top job in league)

[burger]

"the student body skews very liberal while the fanbase and alumni skew very conservative which make for a fascinating case study."
Isn't that every university in the country? Definitely not unique to UT. Regarding football being king at Texas, football is king at every school that plays it, with the exception of maybe Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky.  I'm sure Shaka has learned from past misjudgments...and maybe competing with football headlines was one of them.  If Shaka is MU's guy, I'd love to know what's changed this time around for Shaka.

You obviously have never spent any significant time in Texas.....

[Tums Festival]

"the student body skews very liberal while the fanbase and alumni skew very conservative which make for a fascinating case study."
Isn't that every university in the country? Definitely not unique to UT. Regarding football being king at Texas, football is king at every school that plays it, with the exception of maybe Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky.  I'm sure Shaka has learned from past misjudgments...and maybe competing with football headlines was one of them.  If Shaka is MU's guy, I'd love to know what's changed this time around for Shaka.

Football is definitely king, not just at UT, but in the state of Texas as a whole. Especially high school football. No state produces more prospects year in and year out than Texas.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

"the student body skews very liberal while the fanbase and alumni skew very conservative which make for a fascinating case study."
Isn't that every university in the country? Definitely not unique to UT. Regarding football being king at Texas, football is king at every school that plays it, with the exception of maybe Duke, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky.  I'm sure Shaka has learned from past misjudgments...and maybe competing with football headlines was one of them.  If Shaka is MU's guy, I'd love to know what's changed this time around for Shaka.

Not to the level you see at TU. Trust me.

[Pakuni]

Football is definitely king, not just at UT, but in the state of Texas as a whole. Especially high school football. No state produces more prospects year in and year out than Texas.

Florida would like a word...

[Tums Festival]

Florida would like a word...

Florida is certainly a close second.

[Pakuni]

Florida is certainly a close second.

Other way around.

https://thespun.com/nfl/graphic-the-10-u-s-states-with-the-most-current-nfl-players

[Tums Festival]

Other way around.

https://thespun.com/nfl/graphic-the-10-u-s-states-with-the-most-current-nfl-players

That's the NFL, I said high school. According to 24/7, in the 2021 class Texas produced 377 ranked high school prospects to Florida's 336.

[Fullodds]

Not sure I would describe DePaul's fan base as "rabid". They seem close to non-existent. Not too many people care about DePaul in Chicago. It was great back in the Mark Aguirre days, but that was a long, long time ago

DePaul had fewer fans at their games pre-Covid

[dw3dw3dw3]

There has to be money as a factor here. I don't believe Moser is going to take a discount because he covets MU, worked for Rick, worked for Jesuits, the Amtrak stop, whatever. He has the ability to command 3M plus without advancing this week. 2 final fours, he's really pushing into rarified air and you are looking a 4M plus range. Who is footing that bill?  Underwood makes 4M to give you a sense, Buzz @ 3.9. 

Gates is just a semi-hot name at the moment, but he could easily not get picked up and have to prove it again next year.  The people that pay the salaries might talk themselves into a coach at half the cost.

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

[4everwarriors]

MU cannot afford to not pay Moser. The consequences are too great, hey?

[hairy worthen]

Football is definitely king, not just at UT, but in the state of Texas as a whole. Especially high school football. No state produces more prospects year in and year out than Texas.

I would rank the sports popularity in Texas as:
1. High school football
2. College football
3. Pro football
4. Baseball
5. Basketball

I think TAMU did overstate the UT following though. At least in Houston, i felt like TAMU had  greater following than UT.

[JakeBarnes]

MU cannot afford to bot pay Moser. The consequences are too great, hey?

Is this some new cryptocurrency?