Wojo = Majerus

[5DollarPitcher]

Wojo would be lucky to get hired by Testicle U.

Actual lol

[Goose]

Lenny

I really thought Heisey was onto something in this post. An opportunity to show his basketball chops and you throw cold water on it. You retired guys really can be a buzz kill.

[burger]

Wojo = Majerus?

LOL

Minus a thousand Wales on Wells burgers.....

[Eye]

It took Wojo's mentor, Coach K, 10 years before the light switch flipped on. (remember in the mid-1980s the NCAA was 32, then 48 teams.  So those rounds of 32 were not wins)

1975–76   Army   11–14         
1976–77   Army   20–8         
1977–78   Army   19–9         NIT First Round
1978–79   Army   14–11         
1979–80   Army   9–17         
Duke Blue Devils (Atlantic Coast Conference) (1980–present)
1980–81   Duke   17–13   6–8   T–5th   NIT Quarterfinal
1981–82   Duke   10–17   4–10   T–6th   
1982–83   Duke   11–17   3–11   7th   
1983–84   Duke   24–10   7–7   T–3rd   NCAA Division I Round of 32
1984–85   Duke   23–8   8–6   T–4th   NCAA Division I Round of 32

Then ...

1985–86   Duke   37–3   12–2   1st   NCAA Division I Runner-up
1986–87   Duke   24–9   9–5   3rd   NCAA Division I Sweet 16
1987–88   Duke   28–7   9–5   3rd   NCAA Division I Final Four
1988–89   Duke   28–8   9–5   T–2nd   NCAA Division I Final Four
1989–90   Duke   29–9   9–5   2nd   NCAA Division I Runner-up
1990–91   Duke   32–7   11–3   1st   NCAA Division I Champion
1991–92   Duke   34–2   14–2   1st   NCAA Division I Champion

Some of your Duke pre-86 stuff not accurate. Tourney went to 64 teams in 85, so Duke for sure won a game there. 84 was 48, so without looking not sure if Duke got a bye to round of 32 and lost opener, or won a PIG before that.

[Tums Festival]

Keeping Steve three more years to prove your ten-year theory would give us one of two outcomes. Either he magically figures out how to coach and becomes consistently successful, or he doesn't figure it out and we have Dukiet 2.0 on our hands (minus the piano playing) and will have lost three more years.

[Silent Verbal]

Y'all remember that story from a few years back about how Majerus was giving a speech to his team in practice, had to take a number two, demanded a student manager bring him a towel, and right in front of the team, he pulled his pants down, crapped in the towel, handed it to the student manager, and went right back to giving his speech like nothing happened?

Well, I heard a similar thing happened at Duke, only instead of a towel, Coach K just used Wojo's forehead.

That is the closest Wojo will ever get to being Rick Majerus.

[connie]

Aren't we missing a stint after MU where Majerus was an NBA assistant for Don Nelson, giving him exposure to different systems before returning to college and seeing success? 

[MU82]

Well done, Smuggles.

If the next coach struggles a la Dukiet, you can say, "See, I was right!"

If the next coach fixes Wojo's mess a la KO, you can say, "See, I was right!"

Bravo.

I predict that if Marquette's next coach does a great job, that will be wonderful. If he doesn't, it will suck.

[Silent Verbal]

Well done, Smuggles.

If the next coach struggles a la Dukiet, you can say, "See, I was right!"

If the next coach fixes Wojo's mess a la KO, you can say, "See, I was right!"

Bravo.

I predict that if Marquette's next coach does a great job, that will be wonderful. If he doesn't, it will suck.

I predict that whoever Marquette brings in, whether it's Moser or Shaka or Beilein or Gates, by year 2 of their tenure, we'll realize just how bad we had it with Wojo.

[Uncle Rico]

If Wojo becomes another Majerus, kudos to him.  It wasn't happening here. 

[MU82]

I predict that whoever Marquette brings in, whether it's Moser or Shaka or Beilein or Gates, by year 2 of their tenure, we'll realize just how bad we had it with Wojo.

Through 2 years of Wojo's tenure, we had a 20-win season with a burger boy and followed with a great recruiting class that included Markus and Sam. I tip my hat to you if you already realized at the end of the 2015-16 that Wojo had no chance to succeed at Marquette, but I would like to see evidence of this basketball acumen of yours.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

It was from a thread on the same subject I started in January on the same subject

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=61200.msg1295241

And I completely agree with you, Our program is not the type to give coaches a decade to reveal themselves

So, let cut to the chase, everyone that does not have 10 years of experience needs to be eliminated from this list.

1) Beilein
2) Moser
3) Shaka
4) Gates
5) Smith
6) Crean

Craig Smith has 11 years of head coaching experience. 7 years at the D-1 level, 1 year D-2, 4 years NAIA D-2.

He's won his conference COY 4 times, including once each in the Summit and Mountain West.  He won 2 of them in NAIA D-2, and also won the national NAIA D-2 COY in 2007.

Smith is definitely qualified.

[4everwarriors]

Woj kant cary Rick's Bike. Da dude duzant have it and neva will, hey?

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

I predict that whoever Marquette brings in, whether it's Moser or Shaka or Beilein or Gates, by year 2 of their tenure, we'll realize just how bad we had it with Wojo.

100 percent.

[MarquetteFan94]

Wojo to Ball State...that's where he belongs.

[tower912]

Majerus was not beloved at MU when he was the head coach.  He left for the Bucks. His timing for leaving put MU in a corner.   Spent a season learning from Don Nelson. A year later he left for Ball St and became Rick Majerus, the basketball savant. 

And while he clearly had an epic basketball mind, that was not evident when he coached MU.   

[brewcity77]

I wasn't around during Rick's time, but the consensus I get is that he wasn't ready for the job. He left, got some time in the NBA, then worked his way up the ranks, growing and getting better as a coach as he went.

I think Wojo is like Rick in that he wasn't ready for this job and wasn't going to find the success here that he desired. He needs more education and experience and would likely be well-served to follow a path like Rick's.

If so, maybe in 10-15 years, he will be similar to Majerus. But like Rick, he wasn't going to get there without leaving Marquette.

[tower912]

Like Rick, the best thing Wojo could do is go work in a system that is not Duke.   Open his mind.

[burger]

Heisey

What was recruiting like back then?

When you have an "AL".....Recruiting took care of itself......Once Al left recruiting dropped off significantly.....

Majerus was a basketball genius.....Wojo is hardly that.....But Majerus only came into his own after he mentored under Don Nelson of the Bucks after being let go by Marquette.....

[Badgerhater]

Never improved as a coach in seven years.  The epiphany wasn't going to happen here.

Rick Majerus needed space from MU to develop who he was as a coach, he was never going to get that here either.

[Herman Cain]

Wojo would be lucky to get hired by Testicle U.

It would taka a lot of balls on good ole TU's part to hire him.....

[Badgerhater]

Through 2 years of Wojo's tenure, we had a 20-win season with a burger boy and followed with a great recruiting class that included Markus and Sam. I tip my hat to you if you already realized at the end of the 2015-16 that Wojo had no chance to succeed at Marquette, but I would like to see evidence of this basketball acumen of yours.

Scheduling is part of basketball and it was successful that year if the goal was to get to 20.  Stetson in the middle of conference, grambling and three wins against 1-17 St John's.  8-10 overall in conference.

Watching that team was painful if one liked team basketball.

[Goose]

Herman

I am with you on that hire.

[MU82]

Scheduling is part of basketball and it was successful that year if the goal was to get to 20.  Stetson in the middle of conference, grambling and three wins against 1-17 St John's.  8-10 overall in conference.

Watching that team was painful if one liked team basketball.

I didn't say it was a great season. It was Year 2 under a first-time coach. We won in Madison, we beat Ben Simmons as part of winning that Brooklyn event, we beat Cooley's best team twice, we also had some terrible losses, we knew we had some good recruits coming in. It was progress over Year 1. And Year 3 was generally seen as progress over Year 2.

But if you want to think Year 2 was an unmitigated disaster, and Year 3 was an embarrassment, go right ahead. Of course, it feeds right into the argument that if our next coach has the same progression as Jay Wright did at Nova, some here will want to run him out of town.

[Galway Eagle]

I didn't say it was a great season. It was Year 2 under a first-time coach. We won in Madison, we beat Ben Simmons as part of winning that Brooklyn event, we beat Cooley's best team twice, we also had some terrible losses, we knew we had some good recruits coming in. It was progress over Year 1. And Year 3 was generally seen as progress over Year 2.

But if you want to think Year 2 was an unmitigated disaster, and Year 3 was an embarrassment, go right ahead. Of course, it feeds right into the argument that if our next coach has the same progression as Jay Wright did at Nova, some here will want to run him out of town.

I think it's fair to say years 2 and 4 were disappointing for Marquette fans, and maybe not the greatest coaching jobs. I also think it's fair to say they weren't disasters like Wojo's first year or this year were. A couple slight changes and were in the tournament both those years .