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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on March 23, 2021, 05:27:27 PM
Couldn't we just solve the travel issue with a hyperloop? 
Six minutes, give or take, from Wilmette to campus.

Better known on Scoop as the Hoopaloop.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Ellenson Family Reunion on March 23, 2021, 01:48:32 PM
LOL dude u are miserable

No, not really.  I'm fine with whomever we end up with as our coach within reason, and Moser is definitely within reason.  But I'm not super excited about watching slow ball.  I merely pointed out the fact that LOC plays slow ball and presented evidence to back up what I said.  I didn't add my feelings, or my observations.  You did that.

The Lens

#452
Quote from: Goose on March 23, 2021, 06:06:02 PM
Lens

No doubt Rick would be in Poser camp and be claiming Jings in the best. That said, Rick had about 250 Jings. I love Poser big time, not just sold on him quite yet. My last conversation with Rick was on a pier on Pine Lake and he hated, hated recruiting. That is my only reservation.

By the way, I never shared his love of Jings. Plenty of other options shared with Rick trumped that pick. Might have been a sentimental spot for the big guy.

The beauty of Jing's was how the owner just adored him and I don't think she knew he was a world class basketball mind.  I did always love how he would ask her if she knew anyone like Yao Ming back home.  I guess that was the extent of his recruiting. 

I can't speak to Porter's love or hate of recruiting but looking at their 247 profile, he is always 1 or 2 in the MVC...seems like he knows how to recruit to his locale.  Dude seems hyper competitive, I bet he figures it out.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Silkk the Shaka

#453
Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 23, 2021, 07:53:39 PM
No, not really.  I'm fine with whomever we end up with as our coach within reason, and Moser is definitely within reason.  But I'm not super excited about watching slow ball.  I merely pointed out the fact that LOC plays slow ball and presented evidence to back up what I said.  I didn't add my feelings, or my observations.  You did that.

Well, you looked at a single stat and deduced "slow & boring." People who have actually watched them play would say they are anything but either of those. Not sure how that's "adding feelings."

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Litehouse on March 23, 2021, 02:37:22 PM
Agreed.  I'd take any of 2021 Gates, Moser, Smith, or Kelsey over 2014 Wojo, Cuonzo or Howland.


Agree.

Speaking of Kelsey, is there anything out there specifically linking him to the MU job, or is the speculation based simply on the fact that he seems to have the right qualifications?

GooooMarquette

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on March 23, 2021, 07:13:54 PM
Better known on Scoop as the Hoopaloop.


I think we should call it the Scoopaloop.®️

The Lens

Quote from: GooooMarquette on March 23, 2021, 08:28:57 PM

Agree.

Speaking of Kelsey, is there anything out there specifically linking him to the MU job, or is the speculation based simply on the fact that he seems to have the right qualifications?

Kelcey seems to be a bad combo of Buzz and TC.
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MU82

Moser's team is picked to win by 6.5 for S16 round. Let's see how they do as fairly big favorites.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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cheese ball chaser

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 23, 2021, 07:53:39 PM
No, not really.  I'm fine with whomever we end up with as our coach within reason, and Moser is definitely within reason.  But I'm not super excited about watching slow ball.  I merely pointed out the fact that LOC plays slow ball and presented evidence to back up what I said.  I didn't add my feelings, or my observations.  You did that.

If MUs coach consistently makes the S16 they can play as slow as they want.

MULaw14

https://twitter.com/patnshaker/status/1374593474440351744?s=21

Taking it with a grain of salt — could just be a guy swinging for the fences by calling it early so more people listen to his podcast. I'm too tired to go into a deep dive of his page to decipher his credibility, but figured it was at least worth a mention here.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MULaw14 on March 24, 2021, 01:13:27 AM
https://twitter.com/patnshaker/status/1374593474440351744?s=21

Taking it with a grain of salt — could just be a guy swinging for the fences by calling it early so more people listen to his podcast. I'm too tired to go into a deep dive of his page to decipher his credibility, but figured it was at least worth a mention here.

"...in line to become the Head Coach at #Marquette..."   Like, first in line? Because in such situations, one's position in line makes all the difference.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

MULaw14

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 24, 2021, 06:51:54 AM
"...in line to become the Head Coach at #Marquette..."   Like, first in line? Because in such situations, one's position in line makes all the difference.

True haha but I don't think it would be BREAKING to say he was merely "in line" to become the coach when it's been widely reported already that he was a candidate.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MULaw14 on March 24, 2021, 07:34:04 AM
True haha but I don't think it would be BREAKING to say he was merely "in line" to become the coach when it's been widely reported already that he was a candidate.

Too many of these guys are presenting their guesses as inside info to make themselves look like they have connections if their guesses play out. When they do not- well, "there must have been a last minute change". I am so glad this never happens on Scoop. 
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 24, 2021, 07:44:29 AM
Too many of these guys are presenting their guesses as inside info to make themselves look like they have connections if their guesses play out. When they do not- well, "there must have been a last minute change". I am so glad this never happens on Scoop.

This is also a tricky time period with the tourney going on.  I hope that those that do know stay tight lipped as to not create a stir on where this is going. 

StillAWarrior

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on March 24, 2021, 07:46:07 AM
This is also a tricky time period with the tourney going on.  I hope that those that do know stay tight lipped as to not create a stir on where this is going.

Yeah. If Moser is heading to Marquette -- and I, for one, have no sources on this point -- it would kind of suck if everyone is keeping a lid on it but the LUC players found out because some no-name podcaster took a shot in the dark citing "sources" and then more established media report the "rumor" from "sources".
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

MU82

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 24, 2021, 07:52:37 AM
Yeah. If Moser is heading to Marquette -- and I, for one, have no sources on this point -- it would kind of suck if everyone is keeping a lid on it but the LUC players found out because some no-name podcaster took a shot in the dark citing "sources" and then more established media report the "rumor" from "sources".

I'm guessing that Loyola's players are pretty intelligent and realize there's a good possibility their coach will go elsewhere. They should take pride in knowing that it was their play that helped their coach advance his career, just as he would be proud of any of them who advance in theirs (basketball careers or "life careers").

I do hope that Moser won't pull the old Gary Barnett or Lou Holtz (or many others) and tell his kids that he "bleeds Loyola maroon" and will never leave ... only days (or hours) before accepting an offer to leave.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

blue and gold

#466
Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2021, 12:01:07 AM
Because winning in the tournament is a terrible measure for projecting successful high major coaches.

Because when he was in the Dakotas he didn't just recruit the Dakotas. He recruited Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Illinois heavily. And at Utah he hasn't just recruited Utah, he's actually become an expert in international recruiting, pulling kids from Russia, Australia, and Canada. Also because in his three years at Utah St, he's recruited 5 out of the 10 highest rated recruits in school history per 247.

Quote from: blue and gold on March 22, 2021, 10:34:15 AM
The above statement in bold isn't a fact, right? But just your opinion?

It sounds like you're asserting that this is a fact.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 22, 2021, 11:11:06 AM
Its an opinion supported by facts.

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on March 23, 2021, 12:35:37 PM
Short answer. Why would you look at 2% of the available data and ignore the other 98%?

March success is a data point in a sea of data points. It should be considered but fans have the tendency to only look at March success. Brew's rule is a good one, if they wouldn't be your coach on March 1, they shouldn't be your coach on April 1.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one.  In my opinion, the NCAA is more important than being just 2% of the season.

The metric of NCAA tournament success to project high-major success, in my opinion, isn't the best metric or one of the top metrics but to say that this metric is a "terrible measure" is unwise.



StillAWarrior

Quote from: MU82 on March 24, 2021, 07:56:32 AM
I'm guessing that Loyola's players are pretty intelligent and realize there's a good possibility their coach will go elsewhere. They should take pride in knowing that it was their play that helped their coach advance his career, just as he would be proud of any of them who advance in theirs (basketball careers or "life careers").

I do hope that Moser won't pull the old Gary Barnett or Lou Holtz (or many others) and tell his kids that he "bleeds Loyola maroon" and will never leave ... only days (or hours) before accepting an offer to leave.

I have no doubt that they're intelligent and aware of the possibility — maybe even likelihood. But I do think they should hear it from him at the time of his choosing. Not during the week leading up to the biggest game of their season because some podcaster took a shot in the dark.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Scoop Snoop

#468
If what I read about Moser is true, no way does he do that.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

cheebs09

We should know pretty well the dangers of prematurely saying a coach to a school is a done deal.

MU82

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 24, 2021, 08:00:48 AM
I have no doubt that they're intelligent and aware of the possibility — maybe even likelihood. But I do think they should hear it from him at the time of his choosing. Not during the week leading up to the biggest game of their season because some podcaster took a shot in the dark.

I agree with you ... but my agreeing with you doesn't change this fact: That's life.

I mean, it was life in the 1980s and 1990s and 2000s, too. But with social media, everything is amplified and sped up, everything is speculated on second-by-second, and it's all "out there."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 24, 2021, 08:12:32 AM
We should know pretty well the dangers of prematurely saying a coach to a school is a done deal.

As Badger fans might recall regarding a certain Bobby Knight.

dw3dw3dw3

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 24, 2021, 08:12:32 AM
We should know pretty well the dangers of prematurely saying a coach to a school is a done deal.
Until someone gets on the podium with Scholl and the left over players sitting in the front row, I'm not buying what any twitter account is saying this time around. Partially because of what happened last time, but also because I'd be happy with a few different options this time around. Last time I was emotionally invested in one candidate unfortunately.

muhoops1

Quote from: StillAWarrior on March 24, 2021, 07:52:37 AM
Yeah. If Moser is heading to Marquette -- and I, for one, have no sources on this point -- it would kind of suck if everyone is keeping a lid on it but the LUC players found out because some no-name podcaster took a shot in the dark citing "sources" and then more established media report the "rumor" from "sources".

Am I recalling correctly that when KO lead MU against Duke in SW16 In Knoxville that his players spoke openly about him taking the Tennessee job?  Didn't Roney say something in his presser about the players saying "Hey, KO this campus is pretty nice."  I heard a Crean met with some Addidas reps prior to MU's game vs Stanford in San Jose...I am sure I have details incorrect, but I wonder how much the kids know already.

GOO

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