Wojo Given Take It Or Leave It Offer

[Dish]

Per Goodman: "Wojo was told to shake up his coaching staff and he'd get another year or if he didn't, he'd be dismissed. Wojo refused to do so and was dismissed."

[panda]

Per Goodman: "Wojo was told to shake up his coaching staff and he'd get another year or if he didn't, he'd be dismissed. Wojo refused to do so and was dismissed."

Bad look if true.

[fjm]

Bad look for who?

The admin stuck to their guns and told him things need to change.

Wojo stuck to his guns and supported his staff.

I think it's an ok look for both sides.

[StillWarriors]

Bad look for who?

The admin stuck to their guns and told him things need to change.

Wojo stuck to his guns and supported his staff.

I think it's an ok look for both sides.

Agree with all of this. Status quo wasn't going to change anything. Wojo stood by his guys. Time to move on.

[Pakuni]

Bad look if true.

Why? It's probably a good look for both sides ... which likely is why it's being leaked to Goodman.

[CountryRoads]

Not at all surprised at hearing this. It's what I suspected all along and said last week that Presutti and Judson MUST go for providing absolutely nothing to the program. Wojo was just too stubborn to change all the way to the bitter end.

[panda]

Bad look for Wojo

[lostpassword]

Not at all surprised at hearing this. It's what I suspected all along and said last week that Presutti and Judson MUST go for providing absolutely nothing to the program. Wojo was just too stubborn to change all the way to the bitter end.

Indeed.  I'm stealing this from someone else here years ago but:

* Plan A isn't working.  Let's use Plan B.
* Plan B is Plan A but harder.

[#UnleashSean]

Probably went like this:

Mu: hey you're a great guy and a good recruiter, but you know very little about in game coaching and x's and o's. We'd like for you to bring on am assistant who would do more of the coaching.


Wojo: my team, my guys, I'm the coach.

Mu: bye.

[Pakuni]

Bad look for Wojo

That he didn't through his assistants under the bus is a bad look?
No.

[fjm]

That he didn't through his assistants under the bus is a bad look?
No.

Pakuni. Let me first say I've read a lot of threads these last few days. And haven't commented a ton. But your input is always solid, without a tinfoil hat and very appropriate. I appreciate that.

Second I agree. Any future assistant, Wojo can say "I got released from a job because I refused to fire my assistants".

Future assistants will love Wojo for that attitude.

And scholl will be able to say "I don't take any crap. Please work with me and we'll be fine."

[dgies9156]

I admire Coach Wojo's loyalty but the results weren't there and he had to do something. He didn't do what his superiors ordered and so he's gone. Makes too much sense, since I really still believe they had no intention of firing Wojo until almost yesterday.

I candidly was shocked Marquette pulled the trigger. Wojo was THE guy in so many ways. But as I said earlier in a couple of posts for which I was accused of slurping, the challenge Marquette had was to sell a change for next year. If they kept Wojo, then the change had to be focused on on-thé-court performance. Period. Basically, I suspect the university told him his goal for 2021-2022 was Sweet 16 or else!

Without the Take It Or Leave It Offer Brother Dish alluded to, Wojo and Marquette had no hope for next year. Coach Wojo certainly had talent but the pieces weren't even close to coming together. This has been apparent since Day 1 of his tenure and was extremely evident the year Henry Ellenson played for us.

In Ellenson's case, I don't even want to think about the number of times I was screaming for Wojo to sit the guy down and coach him.... but it never happened.

Regrettably, I'm thinking the Hausers were right. I still can't stand Joey Hauser, whose talent is far less than he thinks it is, but they were right about Wojo (however they communicated it). That's really sad. It took the University a couple more years to figure it out.

[fjm]

Probably went like this:

Mu: hey you're a great guy and a good recruiter, but you know very little about in game coaching and x's and o's. We'd like for you to bring on am assistant who would do more of the coaching.


Wojo: my team, my guys, I'm the coach.

Mu: bye.

And you know... good for both sides.

Sucks we paid a buyout. But it was done right.

[panda]

That he didn't through his assistants under the bus is a bad look?
No.

"Steve - We're at an impasse here. We need to sell your plan to an angry or otherwise apathetic fan base. Would you be open to bringing in some fresh blood to make it easier optically for you next year and possibly give you a long term future here?"

"Nah I'll just keep spinning the tires"

He's not protecting anyone by doing this. Either way, the assistants are gone so he's not doing some noble deed. He's just being stubborn.

Oh well.

[Pakuni]

"Steve - We're at an impasse here. We need to sell your plan to an angry or otherwise apathetic fan base. Would you be open to bringing in some fresh blood to make it easier optically for you next year and possibly give you a long term future here?"

"Nah I'll just keep spinning the tires"

He's not protecting anyone by doing this. Either way, the assistants are gone so he's not doing some noble deed. He's just being stubborn.

Oh well.

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly how the conversation occurred.

[swoopem]

Noon time pickup games were more important than actual games

[NolongerWarriors]

How does Wojo not read the room?  How is MU satisfied until now?

I was told that in the "big meeting," Wojo thought the team was doing fine, the results were fine during his tenure, and zero changes were needed (in any respect).  How could he think zero NCAA tourney wins in 7 yrs is OK?

Was also told that Wojo became super PO'd because MU had seemed satisfied with his results and had never given him any sense there was any concern.  From his POV, just the mere questioning now was a blindside.

I'm glad he's gone, but I have zero confidence MU will hire the kind of coach needed to resurrect the program.

[dgies9156]

How does Wojo not read the room?  How is MU satisfied until now?

I was told that in the "big meeting," Wojo thought the team was doing fine, the results were fine during his tenure, and zero changes were needed (in any respect).  How could he think zero NCAA tourney wins in 7 yrs is OK?

Was also told that Wojo became super PO'd because MU had seemed satisfied with his results and had never given him any sense there was any concern.  From his POV, just the mere questioning now was a blindside.

I'm glad he's gone, but I have zero confidence MU will hire the kind of coach needed to resurrect the program.

WTF???????

If this really happened, a Duke education ranks somewhere below that of my Madison, TN-based grade school!

I would think somewhere along the line, Coach Wojo would have taken a class in critical thinking. Maybe that is the pseudo class at Duke for basketball players!!

P.S.  Wojo, those jeers and boos in the stands should have been a dead giveaway things were not well.

[MuggsyB]

What??

This is crazy to me.

You need to be able to adapt and be open to change when things aren't going well in all professions.  If this is true?  Wow just wow.

[panda]

Yes, I'm sure that's exactly how the conversation occurred.

Wojo interviewing for his next job -

New school - Steve why weren't you retained?

Wojo - Well the school gave me a clean house ultimatum after they told me I underachieved for seven years and I told them no way! I couldn't let my hard working guys off like that. I'm too loyal!

New school - But they let you go...And the new coach brought in an entirely new staff anyways.

Wojo - Yep.

[Mu8891]

From what I have heard this is pretty
much what happened

Scholl wanted to HELP him by bringing in an assistant or two that may actually be able to coach / plan / work on an actual offense.

I don't think it looks good for Wojo

The ADMIN had to have something to tell the fans and sell tickets.   If he cannot see that what he was doing was not working .. then good riddance,

Can't fix a problem that u will not admit exists

[swoopem]

The fact that he thought he was doing a good job is insane

[WhiteTrash]

How does Wojo not read the room?  How is MU satisfied until now?

I was told that in the "big meeting," Wojo thought the team was doing fine, the results were fine during his tenure, and zero changes were needed (in any respect).  How could he think zero NCAA tourney wins in 7 yrs is OK?

Was also told that Wojo became super PO'd because MU had seemed satisfied with his results and had never given him any sense there was any concern.  From his POV, just the mere questioning now was a blindside.

I'm glad he's gone, but I have zero confidence MU will hire the kind of coach needed to resurrect the program.

If Wojo was that clueless, he really did need to go. Not sure how the info on the meeting relates to your last point though. You may be correct but they have shown by this firing that they truly want MU basketball to be better and will not accept poor results. I recognize wanting better results does not mean they will deliver, but its a good start and they have delivered on the women's side.

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1373279911230734336?s=19

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[MuggsyB]

From what I have heard this is pretty
much what happened

Scholl wanted to HELP him by bringing in an assistant or two that may actually be able to coach / plan / work on an actual offense.

I don't think it looks good for Wojo

The ADMIN had to have something to tell the fans and sell tickets.   If he cannot see that what he was doing was not working .. then good riddance,

Can't fix a problem that u will not admit exists

I agree with every word of your post.  It's one thing to be loyal to your staff, it quite another to be so stubborn  that you are unwilling to change a losing situation.  It almost sounds like he wanted out.  Unless he's completely delusional?  Bizarre.