MU coaching candidates

[rocky_warrior]

Funny that there are people on here suggesting you can't be successful in a career while spending time on MUScoop. There is a lot of irony in posting that in MUScoop.

Was thinking the same thing.  We've had retired guys make fun of other retired guys on here, for not being as "successfully" retired.  Whatever.  Life your best life people.  Hopefully that doesn't mean you have to try to tear down other people's lives.

[Goose]

There is more to Lenny's comment than the time spent on here by Fluff.

[pbiflyer]

Would love to see MU make a run at Jeff Van Gundy

No.

[MarquetteMike1977]

DePaul...Sleeping Giant...HAHAHAHAHA

They Are Rip Van Winkle

[Mutaman]

Funny that there are people on here suggesting you can't be successful in a career while spending time on MUScoop. There is a lot of irony in posting that in MUScoop.

Chico disproved that (according to him)

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Fluff

Didn't know you were in sales, thought you worked for a college/university. Anyway, what would be a bigger waste of time for a salesman - making a phone call to a big fish who will likely turn you down or spending a couple of hours every workday BSing with guys on a message board? Asking for a friend.

Not all can be amazingly productive like me.

[StillAWarrior]

In a perfect world, Marquette would be hiring in a year when they are the biggest/best opening out there.

There is no escaping the fact that many still consider Indiana a top 5-6 job...but I think that the job has lost a quite a bit of its luster. There was a time that nobody would doubt that a coach would choose IU over MU. That might still be true, but I'm not convinced. But, it's a really attractive job and I'd think they will be in the running for any coach they offer.

I think the two other biggest openings right now are Minnesota and Utah. Any opening in either B10 or P12 is going to be an attractive opening with a lot of resources. I think Minnesota is clearly the better opening. In my (biased) opinion, Marquette is a better job than either of those...but maybe it's close with Minnesota.

I'm guardedly optimistic that Marquette won't lose its top choice to another D1 program. Fingers crossed.

[TallTitan34]

In a perfect world, Marquette would be hiring in a year when they are the biggest/best opening out there.

There is no escaping the fact that many still consider Indiana a top 5-6 job...but I think that the job has lost a quite a bit of its luster. There was a time that nobody would doubt that a coach would choose IU over MU. That might still be true, but I'm not convinced. But, it's a really attractive job and I'd think they will be in the running for any coach they offer.

I think the two other biggest openings right now are Minnesota and Utah. Any opening in either B10 or P12 is going to be an attractive opening with a lot of resources. I think Minnesota is clearly the better opening. In my (biased) opinion, Marquette is a better job than either of those...but maybe it's close with Minnesota.

I'm guardedly optimistic that Marquette won't lose its top choice to another D1 program. Fingers crossed.

Also, I can't image the Final Four or fired norm at Indiana is very appealing.

[burger]

In a perfect world, Marquette would be hiring in a year when they are the biggest/best opening out there.

There is no escaping the fact that many still consider Indiana a top 5-6 job...but I think that the job has lost a quite a bit of its luster. There was a time that nobody would doubt that a coach would choose IU over MU. That might still be true, but I'm not convinced. But, it's a really attractive job and I'd think they will be in the running for any coach they offer.

I think the two other biggest openings right now are Minnesota and Utah. Any opening in either B10 or P12 is going to be an attractive opening with a lot of resources. I think Minnesota is clearly the better opening. In my (biased) opinion, Marquette is a better job than either of those...but maybe it's close with Minnesota.

I'm guardedly optimistic that Marquette won't lose its top choice to another D1 program. Fingers crossed.

It won't......

[cheebs09]

I think there's an opportunity to win quicker in the Big East. If you lined up the coaches in the Big Ten against the Big East, it's pretty clear which conference has the deeper coaching bench.

[StillAWarrior]

It won't......

Care to expand your thinking?

And for the record, I should clarify that I meant would not lose their top pick to another D1 opening. This is, of course, different than saying they'll get their top pick. If someone elects not to leave a current position (or leaves for an NBA job), that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people willing to leave their current position for a D1 job.

[RJax55]

Yep, but progress and change begins with the 1st steps.

Things are changing at DePaul. Beyond the obvious (JLP leaving), there's seems to be a commitment to ensure that the program has the resources necessary to compete.

Since last spring, they have been making the right moves. They took heat by extending out Leitao last year, but that was a smart play to ensure he had no buyout this spring. Plus, it gave time to move on from JLP, hire a new AD and allow him to get settled a bit prior to the coaching search.

The hole is deep though. A lot of work for both the new coach and AD to do. Will be interesting to see who they hire.

[Loose Cannon]

Things are changing at DePaul. Beyond the obvious (JLP leaving), there's seems to be a commitment to ensure that the program has the resources necessary to compete.

Since last spring, they have been making the right moves. They took heat by extending out Leitao last year, but that was a smart play to ensure he had no buyout this spring. Plus, it gave time to move on from JLP, hire a new AD and allow him to get settled a bit prior to the coaching search.

The hole is deep though. A lot of work for both the new coach and AD to do. Will be interesting to see who they hire.

Thanks, seems like their starting to try turning this lumbering Ocean Liner around.

[RJax55]

Thanks, seems like their starting to try turning this lumbering Ocean Liner around.

Yeah, it won't be easy. But, hire the right coach and support the program, it can happen. See Rutgers.

[Loose Cannon]

Yeah, it won't be easy. But, hire the right coach and support the program, it can happen. See Rutgers.

Yes, like most plans its not too complicated, if Execution and mostly smart decisions making are  in place.  Interesting times ahead.

[drewm88]

Catching up on all of this after the weekend, and I'm surprised people think Moser would get no attention if not for the Final Four run. He's been top 2 for 4 years running in a solid mid-major conference. Obviously the FF and yesterday's win are a huge bump, but there'd still be talk of him in multiple searches.

I don't know if he's the best pick, but I don't think he'd be bad.

[TallTitan34]

I had little interest in Moser before this year but now that I've seen him replicate his success I'm all in if he's the next coach.

[CTWarrior]

Agreed. Everyone who supports Shaka seems to think we could make him switch back to his VCU style, but I am not sure that would happen. His Texas teams were always talented but looked pretty disorganized. When they won, it was often because they simply had superior talent.

If we could get an ironclad guarantee that he would return to his stylistic routes, I would be more open to him.

It is a lot easier to get guys who do not think they are destined to be multi-millionaire basketball players to buy into your successful college style than it is top recruits whose main goal is the NBA.  Goes for Smart and Moser.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I had little interest in Moser before this year but now that I've seen him replicate his success I'm all in if he's the next coach.

Same. I'll freely admit I thought the FF run was a fluke. But watching a bunch of Loyola's regular season games of theirs this year, juxtaposed against our haphazard approach to the game, I was floored by what he was getting out of his team. Just beautiful basketball. Ain't a fluke. The guy is the goods.

[skianth16]

Same. I'll freely admit I thought the FF run was a fluke. But watching a bunch of Loyola's regular season games of theirs this year, juxtaposed against our haphazard approach to the game, I was floored by what he was getting out of his team. Just beautiful basketball. Ain't a fluke. The guy is the goods.

I was really impressed with Loyola yesterday. Everyone on the floor seemed to know what their role was and how to execute the gameplan. Also, seeing how they could compete against guys who were clearly more athletically gifted by doing all the little things right was fun to watch. I would love to see that kind of basketball here at MU. 

[dw3dw3dw3]

It is a lot easier to get guys who do not think they are destined to be multi-millionaire basketball players to buy into your successful college style than it is top recruits whose main goal is the NBA.  Goes for Smart and Moser.

Seems like this is common-sense, but you'd probably have to go pretty far down that top 100 (200) recruit list to find someone who doesn't have a main goal of the NBA.  Then you run into the issue of having quite a few top programs with the same premise (VA, Wisconsin, etc...) and competing against them. In reality, your asking most players to take a back seat until they've figured out the system enough that it's second nature (JRs/Srs).  I'm all for Moser, but really there is a ceiling to level of recruit you can expect with him or he caves and starts sacrificing some of his principles. 

[Scoop Snoop]

Same. I'll freely admit I thought the FF run was a fluke. But watching a bunch of Loyola's regular season games of theirs this year, juxtaposed against our haphazard approach to the game, I was floored by what he was getting out of his team. Just beautiful basketball. Ain't a fluke. The guy is the goods.

Agree completely (except the fluke comment). Anyone else who is willing to admit that, at one point during the game, he imagined Loyola's players in Marquette unis? I did. I thought "that could be us". Maybe it will be if we get Moser.

[GooooMarquette]

Agree completely (except the fluke comment). Anyone else who is willing to admit that, at one point during the game, he imagined Loyola's players in Marquette unis? I did. I thought "that could be us". Maybe it will be if we get Moser.

Yep. Even if Moser couldn't recruit quite the same level of talent to MU as we're used to, it would make for a very entertaining brand of basketball.

[Big Papi]

Seems like this is common-sense, but you'd probably have to go pretty far down that top 100 (200) recruit list to find someone who doesn't have a main goal of the NBA.  Then you run into the issue of having quite a few top programs with the same premise (VA, Wisconsin, etc...) and competing against them. In reality, your asking most players to take a back seat until they've figured out the system enough that it's second nature (JRs/Srs).  I'm all for Moser, but really there is a ceiling to level of recruit you can expect with him or he caves and starts sacrificing some of his principles.

The ceiling would be no different than what it has been the last 7 years.  Only difference is the team would be better coached by far.

[StillAWarrior]

The ceiling would be no different than what it has been the last 7 years.  Only difference is the team would be better coached by far.

I'd like to think we wouldn't have to hold our collective breath every time we need to inbound the ball under the basket.