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Started by Pakuni, March 19, 2021, 12:42:29 PM

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4everwarriors

Nads, Shaka was and still is my #1 target. I think he would knock it out of the park if here. Recruits would line up to play for him, hey?
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willie warrior

Quote from: JTJ3 on March 20, 2021, 10:06:06 AM
jeff goodman this morning said porter moser has coveted the marquette job for a while now.

goodman also said he thinks shaka will listen as he's losing a lot of seniors after this year and this is a chance for a fresh start back at a true basketball school.
Can't believe Shaka Kahn would get a call after backing out the last time. And what would MU do to keep Mrs. Smart happy?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

Goose

4ever

Shaka would knock out of the park at MU. Fingers crossed on him being a possible candidate.

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2021, 11:21:03 AM
Nads, Shaka was and still is my #1 target. I think he would knock it out of the park if here. Recruits would line up to play for him, hey?

I'd be all-in on Shaka, Doc and Goose.

Mrs. Shaka would be totally forgiven, and Marquette could kick arse again.

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Goose

82

All would be forgiven. Shaka would be a home run hire.

5DollarPitcher

Maybe I'm just not understanding, but why would Shaka leave a program that he found preferable 7 years ago for a program that he did not find preferable 7 years ago, especially when the program he's at now is a 3 seed and trendy Final Four pick?

tower912

Agreed that the logic on Shaka that brings him to MU this time seems fuzzy at best.   
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on March 20, 2021, 11:21:03 AM
Nads, Shaka was and still is my #1 target. I think he would knock it out of the park if here. Recruits would line up to play for him, hey?

I'm ready to hurt again.

Silent Verbal

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 20, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Maybe I'm just not understanding, but why would Shaka leave a program that he found preferable 7 years ago for a program that he did not find preferable 7 years ago, especially when the program he's at now is a 3 seed and trendy Final Four pick?

He may have been feeling some heat before this season began.  Jumping now would allow him to leave Texas on a high note and restart his coaching clock.

His results have been less than outstanding at Texas, but I'd be really excited if he was our next coach.

Silkk the Shaka

Shaka hasn't won a tourney game at Texas and we want him at MU after we just fired a guy who couldn't win a tourney game? With the way he did us last time? No thanks.

If Moser really does covet the MU job (which, with his Majerus reverence and deep Chicago ties, rings true to me) then get him in the building ASAP. The guy oozes confidence & authority on the sideline and his teams play with the same. Their group mentality when things go wrong is so, so impressive. They take punches, figure things out intra-game, and claw their way back to wins over and over and over again. Got the Buzz/Majerus mojo. Super energetic, great at implementing his system, and he wants a shot at a natty. I think he'll maniacally pursue it at MU, and I think he could have us in the hunt as soon as year 3. It makes way too much sense not to do it. The guy's got the juice. Don't overthink it.

Warrior2008

The Shaka info from Goodman screams Shaka using Marquette as leverage for a new contract with Texas. I would love him here too, but I don't see that happening based on what happened in 2014.

Class71

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on March 20, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Maybe I'm just not understanding, but why would Shaka leave a program that he found preferable 7 years ago for a program that he did not find preferable 7 years ago, especially when the program he's at now is a 3 seed and trendy Final Four pick?


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goldeneagle91114

Quote from: Warrior2008 on March 20, 2021, 11:37:52 AM
The Shaka info from Goodman screams Shaka using Marquette as leverage for a new contract with Texas. I would love him here too, but I don't see that happening based on what happened in 2014.

Agree this feels like a Shaka PR stunt and leveraging is buddy, Goodman, to help push it.

forgetful

Quote from: Warrior2008 on March 20, 2021, 11:37:52 AM
The Shaka info from Goodman screams Shaka using Marquette as leverage for a new contract with Texas. I would love him here too, but I don't see that happening based on what happened in 2014.

This is my take on it too. Shaka doesn't want to go anywhere, but he wants a new contract, the only way he gets that is leveraging another offer.

But, anytime you leverage another offer, you run the risk of them saying "go ahead and take it, don't let the ass hit you on your way out." If Texas would lose today, I find it hard to believe that donors would pony up to keep him, rather I think they would be calling for him to be gone.

I don't see him losing to Abilene Christian, but if he did, I think he is certainly available.

Hards Alumni

FWIW Goodman is a tool that coaches seem to use to get themselves money.

Keep that in mind.

Also, our admin is pretty incompetent.

Prepare for pain... Hope for glory.

MuggsyB

I forgot.....would Tad Boyle be a potential candidate?

fjm

Quote from: forgetful on March 20, 2021, 11:44:34 AM
This is my take on it too. Shaka doesn't want to go anywhere, but he wants a new contract, the only way he gets that is leveraging another offer.

But, anytime you leverage another offer, you run the risk of them saying "go ahead and take it, don't let the ass hit you on your way out." If Texas would lose today, I find it hard to believe that donors would pony up to keep him, rather I think they would be calling for him to be gone.

I don't see him losing to Abilene Christian, but if he did, I think he is certainly available.

So what you're trying to say issssss... we are all Abilene Christian fans today?

cheebs09

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
FWIW Goodman is a tool that coaches seem to use to get themselves money.

Keep that in mind.

Also, our admin is pretty incompetent.

Prepare for pain... Hope for glory.

We should be familiar with a coach using Goodman as a mouthpiece.

GoldenWarrior11

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 20, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
FWIW Goodman is a tool that coaches seem to use to get themselves money.

Keep that in mind.

Also, our admin is pretty incompetent.

Prepare for pain... Hope for glory.

Agreed.  Goodman is used as a mouthpiece leveraged to extract more money for head coaches from their current employer.  Buzz was, and still is, exceptional at this.  Many coaches are. 

We have a different leadership and AD than when Shaka interviewed the first time around, so I don't think there would be burned bridges.  But, yes, I don't think Shaka is a realistic target at present.  He is getting paid $3.2 million at Texas, and is about to make a pretty deep run in the tournament IMO.  For the reported $9 million we are giving Wojo, I have a hard time we are going to be giving another, what, five-year deal at $3.5 million (so over $20 million guaranteed) to a new head coach? 

Not saying it is impossible, but very, very unlikely.

PhillyWarrior

Quote from: Silent Verbal on March 20, 2021, 11:35:32 AM
He may have been feeling some heat before this season began.  Jumping now would allow him to leave Texas on a high note and restart his coaching clock.

His results have been less than outstanding at Texas, but I'd be really excited if he was our next coach.

A friend, who is former college BB coach says MU reached out to Shaka when he was getting heat from Texas fans/donors (2-3 months ago, prior to a strong finish).  Maybe they don't like Texas and would prefer Wisconsin.  Who knows, but he was listening.  Can we afford him?   

Pakuni

Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 20, 2021, 11:50:22 AM
A friend, who is former college BB coach says MU reached out to Shaka when he was getting heat from Texas fans/donors (2-3 months ago, prior to a strong finish).  Maybe they don't like Texas and would prefer Wisconsin.  Who knows, but he was listening.  Can we afford him?

His buyout at Texas is $7 million. His salary is $3.2 million.

forgetful

Quote from: PhillyWarrior on March 20, 2021, 11:50:22 AM
A friend, who is former college BB coach says MU reached out to Shaka when he was getting heat from Texas fans/donors (2-3 months ago, prior to a strong finish).  Maybe they don't like Texas and would prefer Wisconsin.  Who knows, but he was listening. Can we afford him?

I don't doubt any of this. But be careful on the "he was listening." In that line of business, you always listen. It is how you get the next big pay raise. Listening doesn't mean actually interested, it simply means your institution may be a reasonable enough offer to get me more money.

JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 20, 2021, 11:46:36 AM
I forgot.....would Tad Boyle be a potential candidate?

He's a Colorado guy who I think would only leave Boulder for KU and we know that's not happening.

DienerTime34

Didn't realize Shaka hasn't won an NCAA tournament game at Texas and has a losing record in conference. Yikes. This season will likely be his best, barring a crazy upset pick.

Maybe Moser is the better (and likely less expensive) option here.

Pakuni

Quote from: cheebs09 on March 20, 2021, 11:49:05 AM
We should be familiar with a coach using Goodman as a mouthpiece.

So ... Buzz to Marquette?