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JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Sy is a good kid.  Wish him well.  Nice place to land at Cuse - it was obvious from some tweets I saw that that he is a Cuse fan.  Probably a dream come true.

Not sure he'll such much PT tho.  In any event, wish him well!
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MUfan12

Quote from: MUCam on March 31, 2021, 11:16:38 AM
Apparently Shaka and Boeheim see more in him than a sizeable portion of the MU Scoop community. Hmmm....

I mean, Shaka sent him a text. I doubt he's too upset.

MikeDeanesDarkGlasses

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on March 31, 2021, 11:01:27 AM
Symir to Syracuse.

Good luck, Sy.

It'll be his first time playing in a system.  I hope he blossoms. 

Galway Eagle

Quote from: MUCam on March 31, 2021, 11:16:38 AM
Great for him. I hope he does well. If you saw his Twitter thread, which I still cannot believe I did, I'm not surprised at all. Very pro-Syracuse.

I think people here are too hard on him given the circumstances he was in. I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.

Apparently Shaka and Boeheim see more in him than a sizeable portion of the MU Scoop community. Hmmm....

I would have been happy to have him back and I wish him the best going forward.

I mean I think he has a major upside. I also think I could've shot better from beyond the arc this past season and I haven't played basketball since 8th grade. Great D, great teammate, tries hard, I just think if Boeheim wants him he's basically going to have to either fix his shot or say "you are only allowed to drive"
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MUCam

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 11:20:08 AM
I mean I think he has a major upside. I also think I could've shot better from beyond the arc this past season and I haven't played basketball since 8th grade. Great D, great teammate, tries hard, I just think if Boeheim wants him he's basically going to have to either fix his shot or say "you are only allowed to drive"

Wojo ruined his shot because Wojo can't teach shooting.

I'm kidding.

I hope he does well. Sometimes shooting is mechanical, sometimes it's psychological, most of times it's both.

Regardless, I hope he does well. No ill will and happy for him that he landed at his hometown big-time program. I'll be rooting for him to excel there. And if he doesn't, and he does just end up a role player, great for him that he got to do it at a school he apparently loves.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Clam Crowder on March 31, 2021, 11:14:00 AM
Did Syracuse offer him initially? I wish the best for Sy-Seemed like a great guy and a team favorite-He was a Wojo/Killings guy-the writing was on the wall as it probably is with a few others.

Just a very odd move for Cuse...I dont see how his performance at MU would have led them to offer him if they did not have enough interest to offer prior to MU....If its his dream to play for Cuse I am guessing they didnt offer initially?

He was surely not a Wojo guy by the end of his tenure based on some of his tweets. Lots of subtweets against Wojo.

I hope he has success at Cuse. He seemed to have a decent shot his frosh year and it went away this year. That's something coaching and gym time can fix for sure.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: nyg on March 31, 2021, 11:57:24 AM
Good writeup on Torrence leaving and selecting Cuse.

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/03/syracuse-native-symir-torrence-coming-home-will-play-basketball-for-orange.html

Unsure if it's legit or if it's an excuse in his head but his explanation fits the narrative that Wojo's bench players played way too tight and were afraid to make mistakes
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MU82

The general belief on Scoop (including by me) was that Torrence would be best served by taking a step down, like Cohen and Carter and Cheatham did.

But Boeheim, who might know one or two things about basketball, is willing to give him a scholly and a shot. Sy also said he had heard from South Carolina, Wake Forest and Washington. And Shaka apparently wanted to keep him, and we've all talked non-stop about Shaka's recruiting chops.

As for Wojo ruining Sy's confidence by taking him out too soon ... frankly, there were times I thought Wojo left him in too long. We did not have a big margin for error, and Sy made too many mistakes. Plus, he couldn't shoot ... but he did hit a big 3 against UNC.

Anyhoo, I wish Sy good fortune at Cuse and beyond.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: nyg on March 31, 2021, 11:57:24 AM
Good writeup on Torrence leaving and selecting Cuse.

https://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/2021/03/syracuse-native-symir-torrence-coming-home-will-play-basketball-for-orange.html

Is it accurate that he'll have 3 years of eligibility left or is that a mistake?  I know seniors are getting an extra year if they want but has a year been added for everyone that played last season?

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 31, 2021, 12:16:27 PM
Is it accurate that he'll have 3 years of eligibility left or is that a mistake?  I know seniors are getting an extra year if they want but has a year been added for everyone that played last season?

Yup
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

CountryRoads

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 12:05:44 PM
Unsure if it's legit or if it's an excuse in his head but his explanation fits the narrative that Wojo's bench players played way too tight and were afraid to make mistakes

" Settle down!!!!!! "

cheebs09

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 31, 2021, 12:16:27 PM
Is it accurate that he'll have 3 years of eligibility left or is that a mistake?  I know seniors are getting an extra year if they want but has a year been added for everyone that played last season?

I believe all players get an extra year if they want. But I believe Symir would count against the 13 now that he's transferred and was on MUs roster.

GooooMarquette

Best of luck to Symir. I also am surprised he is headed to 'Cuse, but as MU82 mentioned, Boeheim seems to know a bit about the game. Maybe it'll be just the right environment for him to blossom.

ChuckyChip

Quote from: mubb3434 on March 31, 2021, 09:27:31 AM
I don't know if I agree with this...We have 3 scholarships open (Jamal, Aidoo and Koby).

By my count we now have five scholarships open, and that assumes no one else leaves (Elliott, Perez, Carton, Akanno, Lewis, Ighodaro, Garcia, Jones, and  Mitchell would be the eight scholarship players). 

TallTitan34

Quote from: ChuckyChip on March 31, 2021, 12:28:30 PM
By my count we now have five scholarships open, and that assumes no one else leaves (Elliott, Perez, Carton, Akanno, Lewis, Ighodaro, Garcia, Jones, and  Mitchell would be the eight scholarship players).

Four open.  You named 9 players.

RJax55

Quote from: MU82 on March 31, 2021, 12:10:32 PM
The general belief on Scoop (including by me) was that Torrence would be best served by taking a step down, like Cohen and Carter and Cheatham did.

But Boeheim, who might know one or two things about basketball, is willing to give him a scholly and a shot. Sy also said he had heard from South Carolina, Wake Forest and Washington. And Shaka apparently wanted to keep him, and we've all talked non-stop about Shaka's recruiting chops.

As for Wojo ruining Sy's confidence by taking him out too soon ... frankly, there were times I thought Wojo left him in too long. We did not have a big margin for error, and Sy made too many mistakes. Plus, he couldn't shoot ... but he did hit a big 3 against UNC.

Anyhoo, I wish Sy good fortune at Cuse and beyond.

I was surprised by the schools interested in Sy. Goes to show that other power conference coaches saw talent and traits they could work with. Wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a nice contributor at Syracuse.

Sy did not play well this season. He definitely looked like a kid that lost all confidence. A common theme in Wojo's tenure was a very short bench and lack of production from it (especially the 7,8,9 spots). I thought managing the bench and getting production from it was a major weakness of Wojo.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: RJax55 on March 31, 2021, 12:43:50 PM
I was surprised by the schools interested in Sy. Goes to show that other power conference coaches saw talent and traits they could work with. Wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a nice contributor at Syracuse.

Sy did not play well this season. He definitely looked like a kid that lost all confidence. A common theme in Wojo's tenure was a very short bench and lack of production from it (especially the 7,8,9 spots). I thought managing the bench and getting production from it was a major weakness of Wojo.

Which is why I am excited about Shaka. Big philosphy on getting the 10th and 11th players to feel as engaged and integral to the team as the 1st and 2nd. Definitely something he preaches and puts into practice.
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Goose

Very happy to hear he has chosen Syracuse. No need to debate if he should return or not. Any word on additional spots opening up?

Pakuni

Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Pakuni on March 31, 2021, 12:58:00 PM
Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal

Interesting. Depending on COVID years (Gillespie/Samuels) and NBA draft potential (JRE/Moore), Villanova could be anywhere from a final four favorite to a bubble team next season.
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Pakuni on March 31, 2021, 12:58:00 PM
Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal

I can't believe he was a top 40 recruit. Seems too slow to have been that highly regarded
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on March 31, 2021, 12:58:00 PM
Villanova's Cole Swider is in the portal

Can get hot from 3 but is a major defensive liability. When he was in the game, we went inside to Dawson repeatedly ... and Dawson scored repeatedly.
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Pakuni

Quote from: Galway Eagle on March 31, 2021, 01:16:44 PM
I can't believe he was a top 40 recruit. Seems too slow to have been that highly regarded

On the other hand, 6'8" kids that have reputations as elite shooters - as Swider did coming out of high school - don't grow on trees.
Problem is, he hasn't proven to be a good enough shooter to make up for the other deficiencies in his game.

Loose Cannon

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