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Jockey


Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jockey on March 25, 2021, 03:42:37 PM
Tell me where I am wrong.

First off, they're totally different players.  Secondly, the MVC isn't the BEAST.

Johnny B

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 25, 2021, 03:56:58 PM
First off, they're totally different players.  Secondly, the MVC isn't the BEAST.
beast sucks

Jockey

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on March 25, 2021, 03:56:58 PM
First off, they're totally different players.  Secondly, the MVC isn't the BEAST.

Huh?? Every player is a different player.

Level of competition and basketball skills are two completely different animals. Your comments have nothing to do with my original point.

MarquetteMike1977

Has anyone mentioned Tyrese Hunter. Is he transferring or in the Transfer Portal with the Iowa State coaching change

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on March 25, 2021, 05:31:39 PM
Has anyone mentioned Tyrese Hunter. Is he transferring or in the Transfer Portal with the Iowa State coaching change

Currently deciding. I'd say if we get Moser, he won't be coming here. If he reopens recruitment and we hire someone that runs a higher pace offense, he might consider us.
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ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2021, 01:54:28 PM
Greg Gard has thoughts on the transfer portal

https://twitter.com/evan_flood/status/1375126650019545092?s=21

Flood and Gard are getting roasted on Twitter for saying that. Even from Wisconsin fans.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on March 25, 2021, 04:57:17 PM
Huh?? Every player is a different player.

Level of competition and basketball skills are two completely different animals. Your comments have nothing to do with my original point.

Krutwig averaged 10.5/6/1.5 as a freshman on 60% 2P shooting against a mid major schedule.

Garcia averaged 13/7/1 on 53% 2P shooting against a Big East schedule. 

Other than defensive position due to scheme, I don't think there is anything that freshman Krutwig did better than freshman Garcia, other than perhaps old school back to basket.  The latter can score in more ways, rebounded better, and passed well all against tougher competition.  He had double doubles against 3 tourney teams, and was a point away from a 4th.

Hards said they are different players because comparing them on the basis of low post scoring is apples to oranges when one doesnt play from the low post, and Marquette didn't use Garcia as a stationary passing big like Krutwig was used for Loyola.

bilsu

Quote from: The Lens on March 25, 2021, 12:46:42 PM
It bears repeating...MU player's social media silence is incredible.  And beyond our young big 3, the lack of "thank you Coach" from Greg, Jamal, Ike, Koby or Theo is a bizarre.  Theo RT'd a congrats to Dwayne Killings and a congrats to McKinley Wright.
Maybe Scholl promised them that they would have a say on the new coach.

bilsu

Quote from: Jockey on March 25, 2021, 02:01:08 PM
Especially Carton. A high turnover guard is not going to thrive under Moser.
The real question is whether MU's turnover problem was due to bad coaching or bad players?

4everwarriors

Nope, dat wood neva happen, hey?
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Trevor Anderson of Wisconsin has entered the transfer portal. 
Guster is for Lovers

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 25, 2021, 06:15:33 PM
Trevor Anderson of Wisconsin has entered the transfer portal.

Moser gets him and the Hausers return to rebecome MU royalty and spite Wojo?

Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

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Quote from: JWags85 on March 25, 2021, 03:30:06 PM
Brian Butch on his radio show this week, after Wisconsin lost to Baylor, was just RANTING about more of the "to play at Wisconsin, you need to be willing to sacrifice for the team.  You need to be bigger than yourself".  The same tired trope that always comes up whenever they fall short.  Vilify everyone who doesn't want to play at Wisconsin for one reason or another.
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Quote from: JWags85 on March 25, 2021, 05:39:57 PM
Krutwig averaged 10.5/6/1.5 as a freshman on 60% 2P shooting against a mid major schedule.

Garcia averaged 13/7/1 on 53% 2P shooting against a Big East schedule. 

Other than defensive position due to scheme, I don't think there is anything that freshman Krutwig did better than freshman Garcia, other than perhaps old school back to basket.  The latter can score in more ways, rebounded better, and passed well all against tougher competition.  He had double doubles against 3 tourney teams, and was a point away from a 4th.

Hards said they are different players because comparing them on the basis of low post scoring is apples to oranges when one doesnt play from the low post, and Marquette didn't use Garcia as a stationary passing big like Krutwig was used for Loyola.

But, Krutwig was a much bigger part of the sets that Moser runs. Everything went through the PG and Center.

You are right about comparing players. Garcia is a better shooter and floats around the perimeter much of the game.  (Yes, that is Wojo's fault). Krutwig is involved almost every trip down the floor.

Prorated to 40 minutes a game, scoring would be even, Krutwig would lead in Rebounds, assists, and steals. TOs would be even.

Level of competition can't be quantified, but last weekend Krutwig was just dine against the ACC Champion and the #2 team in the country. Level of competition didn't change his level of play.


My post was not meant to slight Garcia, just pointing out how good Krutwig is. Will be Honorable Mention All-American as a senior. If Garcia stays that long, will he be an AA?

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Two former MU recruits entered the portal yesterday. Noah Locke from Florida and Jemarl Baker Jr from Arizona. The connection likely doesn't matter with the coaching change but would love adding either of them. Maybe if Gainey gets retained he can use his connection to Baker from Arizona.
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MU82

If Moser gets the job and he convinces Garcia to stay, there is no reason Dawson couldn't play a very similar role as Krutwig has should Moser choose to run the same offense.

DG handles the ball well and reputedly is a willing and good passer. (I say "reputedly" because that was the word when he was in HS. He didn't get many chances to prove it this season.) Moreover, DG is a MUCH bigger threat to hit the FT line jumpers and 3s that defenses leave Krutwig open for. That, theoretically, would open up the lane for cutters even more, because a defender would not be able to slough of DG at all.

If Moser is as good a motivator and "seller" as many claim, I would think he'd have a strong chance to keep Garcia.
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Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2021, 08:38:41 AM
If Moser gets the job and he convinces Garcia to stay, there is no reason Dawson couldn't play a very similar role as Krutwig has should Moser choose to run the same offense.

DG handles the ball well and reputedly is a willing and good passer. (I say "reputedly" because that was the word when he was in HS. He didn't get many chances to prove it this season.) Moreover, DG is a MUCH bigger threat to hit the FT line jumpers and 3s that defenses leave Krutwig open for. That, theoretically, would open up the lane for cutters even more, because a defender would not be able to slough of DG at all.

If Moser is as good a motivator and "seller" as many claim, I would think he'd have a strong chance to keep Garcia.

I would be willing to wager this is an impossibility.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MU82 on March 26, 2021, 08:38:41 AM
If Moser gets the job and he convinces Garcia to stay, there is no reason Dawson couldn't play a very similar role as Krutwig has should Moser choose to run the same offense.

DG handles the ball well and reputedly is a willing and good passer. (I say "reputedly" because that was the word when he was in HS. He didn't get many chances to prove it this season.) Moreover, DG is a MUCH bigger threat to hit the FT line jumpers and 3s that defenses leave Krutwig open for. That, theoretically, would open up the lane for cutters even more, because a defender would not be able to slough of DG at all.

If Moser is as good a motivator and "seller" as many claim, I would think he'd have a strong chance to keep Garcia.

I would wager this is near impossible.
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JakeBarnes

Quote from: mumi27 on March 26, 2021, 11:43:08 AM
https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1375482250649874444

Indiana freshman guard Khristian Lander entered the portal

OH MAN. THat one is...oh man. IU has to be losign their minds.
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