We should be happy beating UNC

[5DollarPitcher]

I don't think I'm obsessed. I asked a question twice. If you didn't answer this time I was going to leave it alone. I was just genuinely  curious. I can't imagine choosing to put myself in a no win scenario like you have. I simply don't have time to dedicate energy to things that I'm not going to enjoy no matter what the outcome. But like you said (and I said in my original post) that's your business and more power to you.

You are a superior human being, TAMU. Is that what you're looking for?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You're pretty dumb to think that if the money starts to dry up from fans not donating, buying tickets etc that change wouldn't happen sooner.  Laugh all you want but it makes you look naive at best and idiotic at worst.

Ah but this is a different argument. Finances will always drive decisions. Fans posting on MUScoop that they enjoyed a win in a crappy season will not.

[naginiF]

How do you identify the person who is definitely not the smartest one in the conversation and definitely insecure about their intelligence? It's the guy calling everyone else dumb.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

You keep saying I don't understand that yesterday's victory had no impact on Wojo.  You're too dumb to realize that what you're arguing is only proving the larger point.  You're a mental midget.  You didn't really go to Marquette did you?  If so it's embarrassing.

You're pretty dumb to think that if the money starts to dry up from fans not donating, buying tickets etc that change wouldn't happen sooner.  Laugh all you want but it makes you look naive at best and idiotic at worst.

[Galway Eagle]

Can you please point to any data that says the NCAA tournament is the most watched sporting event in the country?

Number 3 in the US is Final four, the question is whether the rest of the games add up to the super bowl ratings. I'd almost guarantee it but in the very least I'll admit I can't find the stat (though I'm positive I've seen it) and say it's for sure second.

https://www.roadtrips.com/blog/the-most-watched-sporting-events-in-the-world/

Edit:

But the NCAA tournament is 67 games long, and each game on last year's bracket averaged 11.3 million viewers. Combined, that's a combined audience of 757.1 million -- or at least that many opportunities to put a product in front of a viewer. The NFL Wild Card, divisional playoffs, conference championships and Super Bowl averaged little more than 50 million viewers per game. However, with only 11 games, that's only 550 million total, or about 207.1 million fewer chances for networks and sponsors to catch a viewer's attention.

https://www.thestreet.com/personal-finance/how-march-madness-stacks-up-money-wise-against-other-sporting-events-13491940

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Can you please point to any data that says the NCAA tournament is the most watched sporting event in the country?

I would assume he meant the tournament in total. With 63 guaranteed games and an average of 10.5 million viewers per game, that 661.5 Million viewers over the course of the tournament. Of course, Marquette hasn't lasted long in any tournaments under Wojo so how much viewership we actually got is much lower.

[5DollarPitcher]

Maybe in the pros where there's draft picks. In college I'd rather be in purgatory, which as you said earlier is irrelevant. You've called us irrelevant last year when we were a lock for the tournament thus irrelevant means in the tournament.

Losing in the first round of or not making the NCAA tournament is pretty much irrelevancy.

[5DollarPitcher]

I would assume he meant the tournament in total. With 63 guaranteed games and an average of 10.5 million viewers per game, that 661.5 Million viewers over the course of the tournament. Of course, Marquette hasn't lasted long in any tournaments under Wojo so how much viewership we actually got is much lower.

So do we get to sum up all the viewers for every NFL and NBA playoff game and compare? Absurd logic.

[Galway Eagle]

So do we get to sum up all the viewers for every NFL and NBA playoff game and compare? Absurd logic.

Yes and it's less.

[Galway Eagle]

Losing in the first round of or not making the NCAA tournament is pretty much irrelevancy.

I agree it's irrelevancy *for a program like Marquette.*

Which is why I agree we're in Purgatory and that Wojo should be fired.

But I think you're crazy for saying it's not as bad or equal to being in "hell"

[5DollarPitcher]

I agree it's irrelevancy *for a program like Marquette.*

Which is why I agree we're in Purgatory and that Wojo should be fired.

But I think you're crazy for saying it's not as bad or equal to being in "hell"

What's the difference? Wojo throws us one or two bones during the year (UNC and Wisconsin) in exchange for a 4 year, huge buyout extension, but we end up in essentially the same place? Not worth it.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

You are a superior human being, TAMU. Is that what you're looking for?

I might be but certainly not for this reason. When I don't understand someone else's viewpoint I ask them about it. Helps me get different perspectives.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What's the difference? Wojo throws us one or two bones during the year (UNC and Wisconsin) in exchange for a 4 year, huge buyout extension, but we end up in essentially the same place? Not worth it.

Why would Wojo get a 4 year huge buyout extension after this season? Do you actually think Scholl will be that impressed with this season?

[5DollarPitcher]

Why would Wojo get a 4 year huge buyout extension after this season? Do you actually think Scholl will be that impressed with this season?

I think Scholl and Lovell are THRILLED with MUBB right now. And that's not a joke. I think those two boobs would only do something if forced (aka a DePaul style season). Quote this in 2023 and let's see who was right.

[5DollarPitcher]

Yes and it's less.

NBA is only less in 2020 because of the Mickey Mouse playoffs. Otherwise they easily beat the NCAA tourney in less games. NFL might lose (haven't done the math) but it's hard to win when you play 1/6th of the games.

[Uncle Rico]

I think Scholl and Lovell are THRILLED with MUBB right now. And that's not a joke. I think those two boobs would only do something if forced (aka a DePaul style season). Quote this in 2023 and let's see who was right.

Have you contacted the administration at Marquette at all?  Have you with withheld money from the university as an alum?  I am genuinely curious

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

So do we get to sum up all the viewers for every NFL and NBA playoff game and compare? Absurd logic.

The NFL playoffs have more viewers per game but with only 11 games total (in Non-COVID years) the total numbers are much smaller than the NCAA tournament. The NBA playoff can have anywhere from 60 to 105 games but the viewers per game are much lower than the NCAA tournament. The Finals last year only averaged 7.5 million a game. The average for the whole NCAA tournament is 10.5 million a game.

Again, I'm not making an argument for or against anything. I was just answering Farley's question about data saying the tournament is the most watched sporting event.

[Galway Eagle]

What's the difference? Wojo throws us one or two bones during the year (UNC and Wisconsin) in exchange for a 4 year, huge buyout extension, but we end up in essentially the same place? Not worth it.

I feel like I already explained the difference and if I didn't you just did. Again I'm very much for firing Wojo, I don't know why you're arguing like I am.  I just am sick of the ridiculous hyperbole as if we've dropped to complete incompetence (see Depaul, or Pittsburgh).

[Galway Eagle]

The NFL playoffs have more viewers per game but with only 11 games total (in Non-COVID years) the total numbers are much smaller than the NCAA tournament. The NBA playoff can have anywhere from 60 to 105 games but the viewers per game are much lower than the NCAA tournament. The Finals last year only averaged 7.5 million a game. The average for the whole NCAA tournament is 10.5 million a game.

Again, I'm not making an argument for or against anything. I was just answering Farley's question about data saying the tournament is the most watched sporting event.

I'm seeing 11.3 million average per game. What source are you using?

[5DollarPitcher]

Have you contacted the administration at Marquette at all?  Have you with withheld money from the university as an alum?  I am genuinely curious

Yes and yes.

Since you asked, I donated a good amount (for me) to the new business school. I'm an alum of the business school and quite proud of it. If the business program at Marquette were to hire mediocre professors, not consistently develop its students into leaders, and not be active in the Milwaukee business community - I probably wouldn't have. It's not right to "punish" the business school because I don't like Wojo.

The only money I'll give the athletic program from here on in is season tickets (I wish I could withhold that, but I just cannot). This is different than my practice in years past.

[5DollarPitcher]

The NFL playoffs have more viewers per game but with only 11 games total (in Non-COVID years) the total numbers are much smaller than the NCAA tournament. The NBA playoff can have anywhere from 60 to 105 games but the viewers per game are much lower than the NCAA tournament. The Finals last year only averaged 7.5 million a game. The average for the whole NCAA tournament is 10.5 million a game.

Again, I'm not making an argument for or against anything. I was just answering Farley's question about data saying the tournament is the most watched sporting event.

Look up NBA playoff viewership every other year besides this COVID year. It's an unfair comparison.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I think Scholl and Lovell are THRILLED with MUBB right now. And that's not a joke. I think those two boobs would only do something if forced (aka a DePaul style season). Quote this in 2023 and let's see who was right.

Well this explains why you are bent out of shape about the UNC game. You have a fantasy about the administration and actually think that Scholl is dumb enough to offer a 4 year huge buyout extension after this terrible season. Only way that happens is if we stretch this 2 game winning streak into at least a 10 game winning streak.

Wojo will likely get an extension after this season for recruiting purposes. It will come with an extremely lowered buyout, same thing they did to Harbaugh's contract. If he doesn't win enough next season, he will be gone.

[JakeBarnes]

Regardless of basketball, I think we should all be unhappy overall. Life is merely a repetitive slog where we go through the motions hoping to blindly run into a fleeting moment of happiness once in a while.

Eat at Arby's.

[Uncle Rico]

Yes and yes.

Since you asked, I donated a good amount (for me) to the new business school. I'm an alum of the business school and quite proud of it. If the business program at Marquette were to hire mediocre professors, not consistently develop its students into leaders, and not be active in the Milwaukee business community - I probably wouldn't have. It's not right to "punish" the business school because I don't like Wojo.

The only money I'll give the athletic program from here on in is season tickets (I wish I could withhold that, but I just cannot). This is different than my practice in years past.

Then you're an easy mark for the university.  Good luck on your quest

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Look up NBA playoff viewership every other year besides this COVID year. It's an unfair comparison.

That's fair. The NBA finals numbers were a lot better in previous years.

But this led to me looking for the actual numbers for NBA playoff games besides the finals. In 2018, NBA playoffs averaged around 4.5 million viewers per game prior to the Finals. And this was considered a strong year. Again, much smaller than the 10.5 million per game of the NCAAT.

[5DollarPitcher]

That's fair. The NBA finals numbers were a lot better in previous years.

But this led to me looking for the actual numbers for NBA playoff games besides the finals. In 2018, NBA playoffs averaged around 4.5 million viewers per game prior to the Finals. And this was considered a strong year. Again, much smaller than the 10.5 million per game of the NCAAT.

Does the 10.5 million include the Championship and Final Four? If so - still an unfair comparison to then exclude the NBA Finals.