OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel

[PhillyWarrior]

What are you talking about?

Maybe he is referring to Johnson's complexion

[tower912]

There is a report out there that Matta failed his physical after agreeing to a deal with IU.

https://indiana.rivals.com/news/sources-thad-matta-fails-physical-after-agreeing-to-deal-with-indiana

[shoothoops]

There is a report out there that Matta failed his physical after agreeing to a deal with IU.

https://indiana.rivals.com/news/sources-thad-matta-fails-physical-after-agreeing-to-deal-with-indiana

Many credible people have said this is not true.

[Mu8891]

Failed a physical?

Give me a break.  LOL

[Pakuni]

There is a report out there that Matta failed his physical after agreeing to a deal with IU.

https://indiana.rivals.com/news/sources-thad-matta-fails-physical-after-agreeing-to-deal-with-indiana

Coaches need to pass a physical? How the heck did Majerus ever land a job?

[shoothoops]

Matta is however enjoying tonight's games.

[tower912]

OK, then.  Stupid IU blogger.

[RJax55]

Coaches need to pass a physical? How the heck did Majerus ever land a job?

There's a bunch of college football coaches over the years that would have had no chance.

For Thad, does he have to pass a range of motion test? Indiana fans are on another level of crazy.

[GooooMarquette]

I don't believe IU would reject a coach they wanted because of a physical exam. Ever.

But given that Matta retired because of a severe back injury, I have wondered whether he'd be able to handle a return. It certainly isn't as though he needs the money. Maybe he told them "no thanks, my back can't handle it" and someone twisted or misrepresented that.

[shoothoops]

Matta would be very high on my unrealistic list.

[Viper]

I don't know.  You have a successful sitting coach in Brian Dutcher who would love to come to Minnesota.   That's pretty hard to pass up versus promoting a 40 year old career assistant.

wasn't Dutcher a career assistant...or did he have a HC stop along the way?

[Pakuni]

wasn't Dutcher a career assistant...or did he have a HC stop along the way?

Before San Diego State? He was a career assistant, basically Steve Fisher's guy for almost 30 years. But he's been a HC since 2017.

[Viper]

Before San Diego State? He was a career assistant, basically Steve Fisher's guy for almost 30 years. But he's been a HC since 2017.

thx, I should have clarified that...before SDSt I didn't think Dutcher had been a HC.

[TheREALwrk]

The Matta thing was a farce.

Sounds like Mike Woodson to IU.

[The Sultan]

Sounds like Mike Woodson to IU.

62 year old who has a career .463 winning percentage as an NBA coach and who has never coached (head or assistant) in college before.

I'm sure the IU boards are going to be reasonable about this.

[TheREALwrk]

62 year old who has a career .463 winning percentage as an NBA coach and who has never coached (head or assistant) in college before.

I'm sure the IU boards are going to be reasonable about this.

Yeah, that guy!

[Uncle Rico]

If it's Mike Woodson, I'll need a semi full of popcorn

[tower912]

Make it two.   I'll join you.


Also, if true, Minnesota and IU are just the most recent lessons about expectations versus reality.

[MU82]

Also, if true, Minnesota and IU are just the most recent lessons about expectations versus reality.

Outstanding point.

If it's Woodson, I hope he and the new Minnesota coach do great jobs. I'd love to see everybody get away from the notion that if you don't hire a "name," you are OK with failure.

[The Sultan]

Outstanding point.

If it's Woodson, I hope he and the new Minnesota coach do great jobs. I'd love to see everybody get away from the notion that if you don't hire a "name," you are OK with failure.

I agree with this.  But this happens every year.  And coaches just don't leave jobs that often.  Is this a function of buyouts?

[Silkk the Shaka]

I agree with this.  But this happens every year.  And coaches just don't leave jobs that often.  Is this a function of buyouts?

Inertia is a property of matter

[forgetful]

I agree with this.  But this happens every year.  And coaches just don't leave jobs that often.  Is this a function of buyouts?

I think it is simply that there is less motivating factor to leave. The ones likely to leave are those that frankly don't like the city they live in, or have chips on their shoulder where they feel a need to prove themselves.

Money, and opportunities mean less now. Even a Loyola Chicago is paying their coach over $1M, and the coaches being targeted have proven they can have good success where they are at, with far far less pressure.

Why move up the ladder, to do a rebuild, and if you don't succeed to extremely high levels you are fired in 5-seasons, if you like where you live, are already making immense amounts of money, and have less stress.

[StillAWarrior]

I think it is simply that there is less motivating factor to leave. The ones likely to leave are those that frankly don't like the city they live in, or have chips on their shoulder where they feel a need to prove themselves.

Money, and opportunities mean less now. Even a Loyola Chicago is paying their coach over $1M, and the coaches being targeted have proven they can have good success where they are at, with far far less pressure.

Why move up the ladder, to do a rebuild, and if you don't succeed to extremely high levels you are fired in 5-seasons, if you like where you live, are already making immense amounts of money, and have less stress.

Completely different level, but I have a friend who is a DI volleyball coach. They had a very comfortable job at a small school in a small conference. A lot of security with multiple conference titles, conference COY awards, etc. They left for a step up to a perennial "also ran" in a bigger conference. Their life is much, much more stressful now. Immense pressure and wondering if it was worth it.

Obviously VB is very different because we're probably talking about going from $50k to $100k (really just guessing here). That is an increase that can have a profound effect on a family's standard of living. They needed that raise. When already making seven figures, I can definitely see why someone might be content to stay put and avoid the pressure that comes with a step up to the next level.

[The Lens]

I'd leave the Mo Valley for the Big East for the travel alone.  Is Loyola chartering a plane to Drake or Indiana State?  Life on the road in that conference would become a grind.

[MU82]

I think it is simply that there is less motivating factor to leave. The ones likely to leave are those that frankly don't like the city they live in, or have chips on their shoulder where they feel a need to prove themselves.

Money, and opportunities mean less now. Even a Loyola Chicago is paying their coach over $1M, and the coaches being targeted have proven they can have good success where they are at, with far far less pressure.

Why move up the ladder, to do a rebuild, and if you don't succeed to extremely high levels you are fired in 5-seasons, if you like where you live, are already making immense amounts of money, and have less stress.

Exactly.

There are a select few who have the desire to prove themselves at the "highest level." But most are learning they can find happiness where they are.

And that's a great point about rebuilding. If your situation is good where you are, you feel respected by your school, your boss, your team and your community, and you are in a good place financially, why put yourself through a rebuild and a pressure-cooker?

I always thought the ballplayers who "settled" for enormous money instead of ridiculous money to stay "home" were really smart. Look at Joe Mauer. He hit his free-agency year at the perfect time and got big bucks from the Twins, but he could have gotten even biglier bucks from the Yankees or somebody else. But he stayed "home," was still a zillionaire, and when, predictably, he couldn't come close to living up to the contract, he got relatively little heat because he was "the good guy who stayed home." Yankee fans would not have been so kind.

If Moser has 3 straight years where he finishes 2nd and 3rd in the conference and doesn't go to the Dance, will Loyola fans scream that he should be fired? Even if a few do, will administration listen to those fans?