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MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on March 01, 2021, 10:16:49 PM
IDK, Mike. Al cared about his players (so did Knight) but he  (like Knight) demanded discipline and playing "his way". I don't know that he put his hands around any player's neck, but he was involved in two all out fist fights with players that I know about - and likely more that stayed "in house". How coaches coached (and how players expected to be coached) was very different then. Al was only 47 and on top of the coaching world when he got out. Hard to "change" under those circumstances and maybe Al was self aware enough to know that. I absolutely revered the guy but if he would have coached for 23 more years instead of going the broadcasting route he wouldn't be the universally loved figure that he is today. But we would have had multiple National Championships.

I'm certainly not going to argue about something that can never be proven, and you are more of an Al expert than I am. So I'll just say, "OK."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on March 01, 2021, 06:39:51 PM
I think Knight would have had the same problems even if he wasn't prone to aggressiveness and bullying. His decline also coincided with the rise of AAU ball and player centric development. And it's not a "these damn youths" it's just how the game moved.

Look at many of the great IU players under Knight. Classic Indiana HS style coaches kids like Alford or Indiana kids who were gonna lean towards staying in state.  Of the top 15 scorers in IU history, I think 2 are from out of state. Tough coaching, discipline, etc... were just ingrained. Trying to sell that style of basketball, even with a gentler style of coaching, is tougher when guys aren't planning on sticking around 4 years and haven't planned to since they were 14. Just changing of the times
Though we don't agree on everything here, Wags, this is a reasonable argument.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WarriorPride68

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 01, 2021, 07:19:27 PM
Curious where you've seen or heard this

Minnesota board - guy is supposedly plugged into both programs. who knows though

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WarriorPride68 on March 02, 2021, 09:38:13 AM
Minnesota board - guy is supposedly plugged into both programs. who knows though

Can you send me a link via email?  Thanks
Guster is for Lovers

rocky_warrior


Shooter McGavin

Quote from: JWags85 on February 28, 2021, 10:51:08 PM
There is no chance that Stevens returns to CBB for a job that isn't even close to top 5 in its own conference.

He would make it top five in a hurry.  Wherever he goes would get top level recruits and one of the best head coaches on the planet.

tower912

Yes, he would.  But even starting with the assumption Brad would rather coach in college than the NBA, MU doesn't win a bidding war for his services.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 02, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
Thanks, Rocky.  I must be Google illiterate.  I tried searching yesterday

sorry, all, but Wojo is not on the list for Penn State. Damon Stoudamire interviewing today. They are also interviewing Dennis Gates and James Jones (Yale). In light of the reasons for Chambers' firing, they are going for a minority coach.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on March 02, 2021, 03:47:50 PM

sorry, all, but Wojo is not on the list for Penn State. Damon Stoudamire interviewing today. They are also interviewing Dennis Gates and James Jones (Yale). In light of the reasons for Chambers' firing, they are going for a minority coach.

Wojo is among the minority of people who were Duke players for 4 years in the 1990s and still somehow managed to avoid even making it to the Final Four once.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on March 02, 2021, 04:03:12 PM
Wojo is among the minority of people who were Duke players for 4 years in the 1990s and still somehow managed to avoid even making it to the Final Four once.

I'd love to know how bad the 93-94' HS class was. Wojo was a McD AA yet didn't even get 20 min a game his first 2 years on BAD Duke teams.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on March 02, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
I'd love to know how bad the 93-94' HS class was. Wojo was a McD AA yet didn't even get 20 min a game his first 2 years on BAD Duke teams.

They did it to preserve the floor at Cameron. Couldn't take all that slappin'!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

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Quote from: JWags85 on March 02, 2021, 04:11:01 PM
I'd love to know how bad the 93-94' HS class was. Wojo was a McD AA yet didn't even get 20 min a game his first 2 years on BAD Duke teams.


Eeesh....  It really wasn't all that good.  I'm not sure there is a single NBA All Star on that entire roster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_McDonald%27s_All-American_Boys_Game
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

K told Wojo he wasn't good enough and would never start at Duke.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 02, 2021, 04:17:37 PM

Eeesh....  It really wasn't all that good.  I'm not sure there is a single NBA All Star on that entire roster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_McDonald%27s_All-American_Boys_Game

At least one. Antonie Walker
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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The Sultan

Yep, realized that mistake as soon as I hit reply.
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4everwarriors

Woj hasn't seen 170 lbs. in many moons, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MUDPT

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30989626/your-comprehensive-guide-2021-college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat

Borzello lays it all out here. Wojo is not a candidate anywhere and Marquette is not moving on.

Marquette: Had the pandemic not canceled the NCAA tournament, Marquette would have been entering this season with three appearances in the last four years. Granted, this season went off the rails following wins over Wisconsin and Creighton, but Steve Wojciechowski is signed through 2024, has two ESPN 100 recruits entering the program and I'm told the administration likes him.

panda

Quote from: MUDPT on March 03, 2021, 09:03:17 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30989626/your-comprehensive-guide-2021-college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat

Borzello lays it all out here. Wojo is not a candidate anywhere and Marquette is not moving on.

Marquette: Had the pandemic not canceled the NCAA tournament, Marquette would have been entering this season with three appearances in the last four years. Granted, this season went off the rails following wins over Wisconsin and Creighton, but Steve Wojciechowski is signed through 2024, has two ESPN 100 recruits entering the program and I'm told the administration likes him.

Arby's

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: MUDPT on March 03, 2021, 09:03:17 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30989626/your-comprehensive-guide-2021-college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat

Borzello lays it all out here. Wojo is not a candidate anywhere and Marquette is not moving on.

Marquette: Had the pandemic not canceled the NCAA tournament, Marquette would have been entering this season with three appearances in the last four years. Granted, this season went off the rails following wins over Wisconsin and Creighton, but Steve Wojciechowski is signed through 2024, has two ESPN 100 recruits entering the program and I'm told the administration likes him.
Dear God

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

5DollarPitcher


tower912

Should be praying someone hires him away.  Your best hope.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WarriorPride68

Quote from: MUDPT on March 03, 2021, 09:03:17 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30989626/your-comprehensive-guide-2021-college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat

Borzello lays it all out here. Wojo is not a candidate anywhere and Marquette is not moving on.

Marquette: Had the pandemic not canceled the NCAA tournament, Marquette would have been entering this season with three appearances in the last four years. Granted, this season went off the rails following wins over Wisconsin and Creighton, but Steve Wojciechowski is signed through 2024, has two ESPN 100 recruits entering the program and I'm told the administration likes him.

*pain*

cheebs09

Quote from: MUDPT on March 03, 2021, 09:03:17 AM
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/insider/story/_/id/30989626/your-comprehensive-guide-2021-college-basketball-coaching-hot-seat

Borzello lays it all out here. Wojo is not a candidate anywhere and Marquette is not moving on.

Marquette: Had the pandemic not canceled the NCAA tournament, Marquette would have been entering this season with three appearances in the last four years. Granted, this season went off the rails following wins over Wisconsin and Creighton, but Steve Wojciechowski is signed through 2024, has two ESPN 100 recruits entering the program and I'm told the administration likes him.

I guess it depends on his source. If it's someone in the athletic department, I'm sure they aren't going to tell him they can print that they want to fire him but don't have the money.

Hopefully it's just speculation that he wouldn't put his name in for other jobs. I'm not sure how serious he was about VTech a few years ago. I'm still crossing my fingers for BC. Fresh start and back in the ACC.

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