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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #250 on: March 10, 2021, 09:09:26 AM »
Was thinking we would get another year to evaluate Gates in case we give Wojo the heave ho next season. At this point, looks like he will be snatched up this season.
I wonder if DePaul will take a look at Gates

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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #251 on: March 10, 2021, 11:21:11 AM »
I wonder if DePaul will take a look at Gates

they should.  My guess is they go after someone with ties to Kentucky.

I wonder if BC can hire Gates considering his wife is the #2 in the department there. What would be the optics of that?  He is a finalist at PSU as well.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #252 on: March 10, 2021, 11:33:28 AM »
they should.  My guess is they go after someone with ties to Kentucky.

I wonder if BC can hire Gates considering his wife is the #2 in the department there. What would be the optics of that?  He is a finalist at PSU as well.


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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #253 on: March 10, 2021, 11:45:54 AM »
Would DePaul or PSU be good options for Gates? Kind of feel he could hold out for something bigger. I don’t know if he’d be considered for Indiana, but feels like DePaul would be shooting low for him.

Obviously new names pop up every year, but feels like some good options will be gone by the time we get to our coaching search.

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« Reply #254 on: March 10, 2021, 11:51:14 AM »
Would DePaul or PSU be good options for Gates? Kind of feel he could hold out for something bigger. I don’t know if he’d be considered for Indiana, but feels like DePaul would be shooting low for him.

Obviously new names pop up every year, but feels like some good options will be gone by the time we get to our coaching search.


He's been a head coach for two years.  Yes he has done a great job rebuilding the program, but he doesn't have a deep history that the likes of Indiana are going to be interested in.  DePaul or Penn State seem appropriate. 
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« Reply #255 on: March 10, 2021, 01:19:07 PM »

He's been a head coach for two years.  Yes he has done a great job rebuilding the program, but he doesn't have a deep history that the likes of Indiana are going to be interested in.  DePaul or Penn State seem appropriate.

I would take him here in a nanosecond and those two programs (+BC) would be beneath him I should hope

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« Reply #256 on: March 10, 2021, 01:56:43 PM »
I would take him here in a nanosecond and those two programs (+BC) would be beneath him I should hope


I agree.  But I don't think Indiana would.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #257 on: March 10, 2021, 02:00:36 PM »
I think a third scenario is that Scholl takes a hard line in extension negotiation and the only way he gets one is a severely reduced buyout. Wojo jumps to another job for a clean slate.

I don’t think it’s likely. However, if a Lewis, Carton, or Garcia have already given indications they are leaving, I could see him wanting to get out before his stock drops too far.

Also a 4th option - Wojo know's his seat is getting hot. He has all the excuses in the world to provide his next employer, and decides to bolt now, while he still has a chance at another job.

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« Reply #258 on: March 10, 2021, 04:19:07 PM »
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #259 on: March 10, 2021, 04:27:09 PM »
Moser is the guy we need to go after......If WOJO is not here next year.....

He does more with less than most coaches in NCAA Div 1.....

Loyola literally has no budget or history except for that one Cinderella run.....

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« Reply #260 on: March 10, 2021, 04:29:37 PM »
What about Archie Miller if he gets canned? He’s had recent success at Dayton which is pretty much a program we should aspire to be at this point.

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« Reply #261 on: March 10, 2021, 04:30:39 PM »
What about Archie Miller if he gets canned? He’s had recent success at Dayton which is pretty much a program we should aspire to be at this point.

He won't get canned, his buyout is too large this year.

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« Reply #262 on: March 10, 2021, 04:40:36 PM »
He won't get canned, his buyout is too large this year.

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« Reply #263 on: March 10, 2021, 05:12:48 PM »
Moser is the guy we need to go after......If WOJO is not here next year.....

He does more with less than most coaches in NCAA Div 1.....

Loyola literally has no budget or history except for that one Cinderella run.....

Moser wouldn't make my top 10 list of candidates. Maybe top 15.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #264 on: March 10, 2021, 05:14:20 PM »
Moser wouldn't make my top 10 list of candidates. Maybe top 15.

The feeling might be mutual from Moser’s end.

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« Reply #265 on: March 10, 2021, 05:20:49 PM »
Archie Miller is a rich man’s Brian Gregory
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #266 on: March 10, 2021, 05:35:11 PM »
For me, the worst part about Wojo getting retained will be seeing programs like DePaul and possibly Butler snap up coaches we might’ve had a shot at if we’d only made a move.

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« Reply #267 on: March 10, 2021, 05:45:44 PM »
Moser wouldn't make my top 10 list of candidates. Maybe top 15.

I respect your opinion - who would you have above him besides Dennis Gates (who I think personally has made himself the clear #1)? Guessing DeVries, Matta, Beilein, Craig Smith... Seems to be a fall off from there though.... TJO? Would genuinely like to see a list, if there others out there I'm not following I'd love to look into more options, because if they're better than Moser we would be in good shape.

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« Reply #268 on: March 10, 2021, 06:55:02 PM »
For me, the worst part about Wojo getting retained will be seeing programs like DePaul and possibly Butler snap up coaches we might’ve had a shot at if we’d only made a move.

I understand this frustration, but there will always be several "next great coaches."

In the unfortunate event that Wojo is retained ... only to be fired a year from now, we will have several good ones from which to choose.
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« Reply #269 on: March 10, 2021, 06:56:00 PM »
I understand this frustration, but there will always be several "next great coaches."

In the unfortunate event that Wojo is retained ... only to be fired a year from now, we will have several good ones from which to choose.

And many of those "next great coaches" will flame out anyway.  Most do.
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Re: OT: 2021 Coaching Carousel
« Reply #270 on: March 10, 2021, 07:04:48 PM »
Moser is the guy we need to go after......If WOJO is not here next year.....

He does more with less than most coaches in NCAA Div 1.....

Loyola literally has no budget or history except for that one Cinderella run.....

Sure if you ignore their championship in the 60s and the sweet 16 in the 80s with probably their most talented team ever then yeah the only history they have is that one Cinderella run.
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« Reply #271 on: March 10, 2021, 07:06:48 PM »
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« Reply #272 on: March 10, 2021, 07:08:27 PM »
What's John Beilein doing these days?

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« Reply #273 on: March 10, 2021, 07:08:55 PM »
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« Reply #274 on: March 10, 2021, 07:11:05 PM »
Yeah, I would fully support Porter Moser if we hire him ... but it took him until Year 7 at Loyola and Year 14 as a head coach to "do more with less."

Maybe he finally has figured things out and would be a spectacular hire for Marquette or any P6 school. Either we'll get to see soon enough, or he'll pull a Bob McKillop and decide that Loyola is the one and only place for him.

There are a lot worse things than being a well-paid coach in a great city, and in a job where the only real pressure he faces is the pressure he puts on himself.
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