The Hey its 2021 now guys MLB thread

[jficke13]

I deserved that for my Panthers comment


But it ain't over - just find a way to win tomorrow. I'd take my chances with Corbin in game 5.

Disagree, I say throw the Ace on 4 days rest. Season's on the line, are you really gonna go with a bullpen game?

[PGsHeroes32]

Disagree, I say throw the Ace on 4 days rest. Season's on the line, are you really gonna go with a bullpen game?

Game 1 was Friday.

Math says

Rest Saturday(1), Sunday(2), Monday(3).

3 days rest for Burnes if he goes tomorrow

[MUBurrow]

Brewers should just fly home tonight. No point in playing, season's over.

Seriously, right?  I'm not in denial that things are trending in the wrong direction, but its not like the Braves hitters have been lighting the world on fire either.  Lauer has been good lately, and the pitching situations tomorrow might get weird. These streaks have a way of coming and going in a flash, so who knows.   

[jficke13]

Game 1 was Friday.

Math says

Rest Saturday(1), Sunday(2), Monday(3).

3 days rest for Burnes if he goes tomorrow

Math is for suckers. Tell him it's 4 days and he'll be fine.

[JWags85]

Game 1 was Friday.

Math says

Rest Saturday(1), Sunday(2), Monday(3).

3 days rest for Burnes if he goes tomorrow

And correct me if I'm wrong, but the Brewers have been essentially throwing a 6 man rotation all year, so used to even more rest than normal 5 man rotations

[Billy Hoyle]

Disagree, I say throw the Ace on 4 days rest. Season's on the line, are you really gonna go with a bullpen game?

Holding Corbin back in case there's a game 5 is like slotting Renaldo in the fifth spot for PK's. Sure, he could be the finisher, but if you don't get to him what does it matter?

[PGsHeroes32]

Kevin Cash isn't the guy to bring your team a title

[Jockey]

Holding Corbin back in case there's a game 5 is like slotting Renaldo in the fifth spot for PK's. Sure, he could be the finisher, but if you don't get to him what does it matter?

No it is not anything like that.

You want a pitcher who has thrown way more innings than he ever has and who normally pitches on 5-6 days of rest to start on 3 days rest. That is beyond stupid - Renaldo isn't risking arm or leg issues based on where he is in a penalty kick lineup.

[Jockey]

Kevin Cash isn't the guy to bring your team a title

Except Cash is not the guy who refuses to pay for starting pitchers.

[tower912]

Small market challenges.

[PGsHeroes32]

Except Cash is not the guy who refuses to pay for starting pitchers.

No he's not.

But he sure as hell is the guy who pulls them at awful times.

[Jockey]

No he's not.

But he sure as hell is the guy who pulls them at awful times.

Not necessarily. Managers, in general, have less power than maybe anytime in history. Managing now is a collaboration between the manager, the GM, and the analytics department. I don't like it, but it is what it is.

When Cash pulled Snell last year when he was dominating, it was a decision that was made before the game even started. They were not going to let him face the lineup a 3rd time. And that came from the top. It didn't take a genius to see it was the wrong move.

I certainly agree with you that TB cannot win it all. I just disagree as to who is responsible. 

[MuggsyB]

The TB players may have read this thread? 

[PGsHeroes32]

Sox bullpen finally showing their weaknesses

[JWags85]

Red Sox fans on social media were basically planning for the next series already.  What an incredible start to the 8th

[CreightonWarrior]

Verdugo looked safe to me.

[Jockey]

Now that was Cash's fault. You have to walk Kiki to set up a double play.

[MU82]

Not sure what Cash was thinking. He seems like a pretty weak manager when the heat is on.

As for the Brewers ... many teams have come back from 2-1 in a best-of-5. Including the Brewers.

[CTWarrior]

Now that was Cash's fault. You have to walk Kiki to set up a double play.

Probably, but the horse was out of the barn by then.  The Sox are playing with house money right now.  Once they knocked out the Yankees, everything else is gravy.  They are pretty even with the White Sox, Brewers and Braves, but a click below Houston, LA and SF of what's left.  They're a weird bunch to get this far.  They are a bad defensive team, not a great rotation and a shaky bullpen.  Cora knows what he's doing once the playoffs start, though.

[The Sultan]

Not sure what Cash was thinking. He seems like a pretty weak manager when the heat is on.

As for the Brewers ... many teams have come back from 2-1 in a best-of-5. Including the Brewers.

Hell, in the 1982 ALCS they came down from 0-2!

[MU82]

Hell, in the 1982 ALCS they came down from 0-2!

Yessir, I was there to witness it, as were probably a few other Scoopers of that vintage.

[cheebs09]

Looks like Lauer gets the start. I have to assume it came down to believing Lauer on full rest is better than Burnes on short rest. Hopefully it's not just to save him for Game 5.

[wadesworld]

You have to start Lauer. Lauer has been good, Burnes has already pitched far and away the most innings of his career, and he usually doesn't start on 4 days rest, let alone 3. Burnes isn't being saved for game 5. If they were doing that, you just start Burnes and have Woody and Peralta available for game 5 anyways.

[Jockey]

You have to start Lauer. Lauer has been good, Burnes has already pitched far and away the most innings of his career, and he usually doesn't start on 4 days rest, let alone 3. Burnes isn't being saved for game 5. If they were doing that, you just start Burnes and have Woody and Peralta available for game 5 anyways.

That's basically what I said earlier. If the Brewers win today, Burnes has the possibility of 5 more starts which might put him at about 50% more innings than he has ever thrown.

[CTWarrior]

Looks like Lauer gets the start. I have to assume it came down to believing Lauer on full rest is better than Burnes on short rest. Hopefully it's not just to save him for Game 5.

I know everyone says it is just to get to game 5, but you have to win both games.  The question should be if your chance of winning 2 games is better with Lauer in Game 4 and Burnes in game 5 or Burnes in game 4 and everybody in game 5.  In the end, if you lose in 4 games or 5 doesn't mean much.  Winning or losing the series is what matters.