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Author Topic: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?  (Read 1244 times)

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2021, 12:04:54 PM »
Yes I realize we have more than 6 on the roster. How good do you feel when Greg, Sy or Dex makes an appearance? Dexter has played 30 minutes this year.

Plenty good. They are fine for 7th, 8th, and 9th men in the rotation.
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2021, 12:07:52 PM »
MU is off 2/7-2/13: no chance they play Nova in that stretch as Nova has 3 games scheduled.

The other break is 2/21-2/26: nova has a game the 23rd so likely won’t have the game fit in that slot either.

Wonder when that one gets rescheduled. It’d be a lot better for MUs chances at a bid for it not to be rescheduled tbh.

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2021, 12:11:20 PM »
I don't think saying we have a 6-man roster is really that outrageous.

DJ, Garcia, Koby, Theo, Jamal, and Justin are really the team at this point.  Greg, Dexter, and Symir get some spot minutes.  Maybe one of those guys get extended run or has a hot game (Greg vs Creighton, Symir vs Georgetown).  But it's really just those top 6 that matter.

Dexter gets spot minutes. Greg and Sy are averaging 15 a game and have appeared in every game this season (that Sy hasn't been injured for). There hasn't been a single game where we didn't have at least 7 players play at least a quarter of the minutes. Greg specifically has played 10 or more minutes in every game except for one (OKST).

All teams have players at the back of their rotation that aren't as good as the starters or top bench player, that doesn't mean that they don't have an important role.
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2021, 12:17:25 PM »
Wonder when that one gets rescheduled. It’d be a lot better for MUs chances at a bid for it not to be rescheduled tbh.

Maybe but not necessarily. Just playing a team like Nova on the road does a lot for MU's computer numbers. If they can keep it close, it really helps the computer numbers. And while the game against Nova this season gives me very little confidence, the previous 7 games with Nova were all either MU wins or decided by 10 or less points.

The committee would never punish Marquette for losing at Nova, even if its a blowout. They may even reward them if it is a close game. On the flip side, if MU somehow pulled an upset, it would go a long way towards locking up an NCAAT appearance.
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2021, 12:24:11 PM »
2-2, L’s at StJ and Prov.. Re: Dex, was that summertime tape a hoax?

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2021, 12:28:08 PM »
2-2, L’s at StJ and Prov.. Re: Dex, was that summertime tape a hoax?

It was a pickup game and hype video. I'm sure Dex is much better than he's shown and Covid likely hit him hard but it was ridiculous how many people fully bought into the hype of that video.
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2021, 12:29:16 PM »
2-2, L’s at StJ and Prov.. Re: Dex, was that summertime tape a hoax?

I think his game looks better when no one plays defense and you have a video editor with final say on what the general public can see.

Or maybe he is just better against high level NBA talent?

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2021, 12:54:11 PM »
Different players have different roles.  I feel fine when we bring in a 47% three point shooter in Greg, because, for the most part, he knows his role.  When he has to play outside his role (I believe he was the only one to have a TO with the press break last night), I get a bit more nervous.

Also, a few common complaints over the years have been our inability to easily break a press, we did that with ease short of one possession last night, and not knowing how to attack a zone, we didn't always hit the looks we were able to create against the zone, but we certainly looked like we knew how to go about attacking it.  Combine that with winning the TO battle, as well as the fast break points battle (something rarely seen under Wojo) and you got yourself a pretty solid team performance.

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2021, 12:58:25 PM »
Sy played 2 minutes last night in a game that started with a big lead, ended tight and in the middle saw the guy he plays behind leave for a bit with cramps. Dex played 4 minutes last night.
How do you think Wojo is feeling about putting Sy in the game these days?

If we'd like to say Greg is a typical 7th man on either a typical MU or BE team, thats fine. He seems like a great guy and great teammate. He can make a 3 and a free throw. He can't hold the ball in his hands, dribble or guard his own shadow.

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2021, 01:02:33 PM »
Sy made his bed when he jacked up a pull up 3 thirty seconds into his run.
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2021, 01:09:15 PM »
Having the 7th man be a "one skill specialist" type player, and your 8th and 9th men be spot minute players is not exactly uncommon.  I'm not really understanding the argument/complaint here? 

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2021, 11:23:14 PM »
Maybe but not necessarily. Just playing a team like Nova on the road does a lot for MU's computer numbers. If they can keep it close, it really helps the computer numbers. And while the game against Nova this season gives me very little confidence, the previous 7 games with Nova were all either MU wins or decided by 10 or less points.

The committee would never punish Marquette for losing at Nova, even if its a blowout. They may even reward them if it is a close game. On the flip side, if MU somehow pulled an upset, it would go a long way towards locking up an NCAAT appearance.

Agree 100%. I hope there's a way to play the game exactly because of what you say here.

When we were building our huge lead against UConn, I said, "Damn, we're on a little roll here; I wish we were gonna get to play Nova."

Then, when we blew the game, I said, "I'm kinda glad we don't have to play Nova next. We desperately need a win. But I still want to play that game at some point."

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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2021, 03:55:29 AM »
Assuming the percents of winning are correct it is easy to calculate the likelihood of any outcome. The likelihood to win all 4 games just multiple each percent together. The result is the liklihood we win all 4 games. Conversely take the winning liklihood for each game and subtract from 100%. That gives you the liklihood of losing each game. The liklihood of losing all 4 games multiply all 4 losing percents together. For winning 2 or 3 games look at all combinations for winning each group seperately and calculate the likihoods of winning and sum the results for each set of scenarios.

If you change the winnings/losing percents and you can calculate any scenario result given your own input variables.
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Re: The Next Four Games - The Entire Season?
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2021, 06:11:19 AM »
Assuming the percents of winning are correct it is easy to calculate the likelihood of any outcome. The likelihood to win all 4 games just multiple each percent together. The result is the liklihood we win all 4 games. Conversely take the winning liklihood for each game and subtract from 100%. That gives you the liklihood of losing each game. The liklihood of losing all 4 games multiply all 4 losing percents together. For winning 2 or 3 games look at all combinations for winning each group seperately and calculate the likihoods of winning and sum the results for each set of scenarios.

If you change the winnings/losing percents and you can calculate any scenario result given your own input variables.

Said another way, there is a 84% chance Ners and his merry personas will return to rant repeatedly without rational commentary then?

 

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