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Symir’s Charge
« on: January 08, 2021, 02:38:14 PM »
Does the restricted defensive circle not extend to the baseline?
Symir was very close to the baseline, but inside the circle—if it were extended when he took that charge.
I have never seen this application of the rule before.

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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 02:46:13 PM »
The restricted area ends "at the face of the backboard."

Here is the definition per the NCAA rulebook:  "The restricted area ("R.A.") is defined as the area bounded by the outer edge of the restricted-area arc, which has a 4-foot radius measured from the center of the basket to the inside of the arc line and extending to the face of the backboard."
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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2021, 02:51:23 PM »
I actually was surprised Symir got the call, because he clearly was in an extension of the restricted area below the baseline. Being a ref, I actually have never had to make that call, so I decided to look it up during the next time-out. Much to my surprise, I learned that the restricted area does NOT extend below the baseline.

It's a little confusing, because a 3-second violation CAN be called on somebody out of bounds, as the lane extends 4 feet off the end of the court.

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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2021, 02:53:12 PM »
Thank you both.

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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2021, 05:47:09 PM »
I actually was surprised Symir got the call, because he clearly was in an extension of the restricted area below the baseline. Being a ref, I actually have never had to make that call, so I decided to look it up during the next time-out. Much to my surprise, I learned that the restricted area does NOT extend below the baseline.

It's a little confusing, because a 3-second violation CAN be called on somebody out of bounds, as the lane extends 4 feet off the end of the court.

Even us 106-year-olds can keep learning!

for sure!  But, the idea of the restricted area arc is to prevent defensive players from hanging out below the rim. It's also a dangerous situation too.  But, under and behind the backboard an offensive player is unlikely to draw contact on a shot attempt.

I didn't know that about the lane and three second calls. That's a weird one.
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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2021, 06:44:52 PM »
Short thread, but I learned a lot.

I'm now eagerly awaiting the day I see a guy get called for 3 seconds while standing out of bounds under the basket....  ;D

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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2021, 07:36:57 PM »
I actually was surprised Symir got the call, because he clearly was in an extension of the restricted area below the baseline. Being a ref, I actually have never had to make that call, so I decided to look it up during the next time-out. Much to my surprise, I learned that the restricted area does NOT extend below the baseline.

It's a little confusing, because a 3-second violation CAN be called on somebody out of bounds, as the lane extends 4 feet off the end of the court.

Even us 106-year-olds can keep learning!

Sorta unrelated note. I had a coach last year scream for a 3 second call. On the defense. In an 8th grade game.

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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2021, 09:30:35 PM »
Sorta unrelated note. I had a coach last year scream for a 3 second call. On the defense. In an 8th grade game.

Coaches can be crazy. Present company included.

Actually, I am super-chill. I coach middle-school kids, so I check my ego and my big mouth at the door. But if I coached at a higher level, I'd probably be crazy, too!
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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2021, 10:32:31 PM »
Coaches can be crazy. Present company included.

Actually, I am super-chill. I coach middle-school kids, so I check my ego and my big mouth at the door. But if I coached at a higher level, I'd probably be crazy, too!

I was working a college game a few weeks ago and one set of coaches were screaming for a three second call. The next time down the floor they started counting, they got to six. The following time down the floor the official whistled the guy for a three second violation.
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Re: Symir’s Charge
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2021, 06:59:53 AM »
Whew! I was worried when I saw the title of the thread.

 

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