Marquette Wearing Black in Honor of Jacob Blake

[Galway Eagle]

as a leftist who thinks we can drastically improve our police system,i dont think you need to  agree with absoulutly everything theo says to qualify as a fan.

+1

I support BLM that does not mean that every shot from police isn't justified. Is this one? IMO certainly not 7 times but maybe one or two are up for discussion given weapon, warrant, resist, and potential kidnapping.

[Billy Hoyle]

as a leftist who thinks we can drastically improve our police system,i dont think you need to  agree with absoulutly everything theo says to qualify as a fan.

This.

[Bad_Reporter]

Just to be objective.  Has anyone seen an individual on drugs before and get shot?  Specifically coke? 

Justifying 7 shots, I'm not sure, however in the heat of the moment, someone who is tasered, a felon, possible kidnapping, well..

[wadesworld]

Just to be objective.  Has anyone seen an individual on drugs before and get shot?  Specifically coke? 

Justifying 7 shots, I'm not sure, however in the heat of the moment, someone who is tasered, a felon, possible kidnapping, well..

Which is why police reform is needed.  If you can't get control of a situation where you have multiple police trying to control one unarmed person, well...

[JakeBarnes]

Just to be objective.  Has anyone seen an individual on drugs before and get shot?  Specifically coke? 

Justifying 7 shots, I'm not sure, however in the heat of the moment, someone who is tasered, a felon, possible kidnapping, well..

Coke? Was he trying to tell bad jokes, buy more shots and try and get everyone to go to the strip club? Meth or pcp is the drug you're looking for there.

[JakeBarnes]

Which is why police reform is needed.  If you can't get control of a situation where you have multiple police trying to control one unarmed person, well...

Also this.

[Galway Eagle]

Just to be objective.  Has anyone seen an individual on drugs before and get shot?  Specifically coke? 

Justifying 7 shots, I'm not sure, however in the heat of the moment, someone who is tasered, a felon, possible kidnapping, well..

Yes actually, administered first aid to him outside of doc Ryan's on Madison street in forest park (for my Chicago west sub people) it was 2016.

[FrennA]

BLM, to answer your question, no.  I am not of the opinion that anyone with a criminal record should be shot 7 times in the back.  Nice try, though.  Are you in politics by chance?  Anyways, I don't have an opinion on that at all considering I wasn't there and like Hutch pointed out, a lot of info left out......conveniently.  But since you asked my opinion, I'll give it to you.  My opinion is I think MU could have picked a better example than Jacob Blake to recognize racial injustices.  Maybe others disagree.  Maybe one of those that disagree with me is Theo John.  That's fine.  However, Theo John doesn't speak for all the past, present and future MU fans and players and therefore doesn't dictate whether I, or anyone else, can be part of the MU fan base or not. 

[wadesworld]

BLM, to answer your question, no.  I am not of the opinion that anyone with a criminal record should be shot 7 times in the back.  Nice try, though.  Are you in politics by chance?  Anyways, I don't have an opinion on that at all considering I wasn't there and like Hutch pointed out, a lot of info left out......conveniently.  But since you asked my opinion, I'll give it to you.  My opinion is I think MU could have picked a better example than Jacob Blake to recognize racial injustices.  Maybe others disagree.  Maybe one of those that disagree with me is Theo John.  That's fine.  However, Theo John doesn't speak for all the past, present and future MU fans and players and therefore doesn't dictate whether I, or anyone else, can be part of the MU fan base or not.

The decision came down today.  There's a reason they did this today.  But maybe next game they'll wear black for Elijah McClain and we can hear Scoopers who are uncomfortable admitting there are serious problems in our society attack him too and explain to me why he deserved to be murdered by police.

[brewcity77]

as a leftist who thinks we can drastically improve our police system,i dont think you need to  agree with absoulutly everything theo says to qualify as a fan.

Doesn't change that the team doesn't want fans that aren't with them on and off the court. And I'm pretty sure that extends beyond Theo, will extend beyond this current roster, & will extend beyond Wojo.

[Bad_Reporter]

Which is why police reform is needed.  If you can't get control of a situation where you have multiple police trying to control one unarmed person, well...

Wades, I'm not saying we can't do better.  we need to.  My issue is MU supporting Mr. Blake given his past and the evidence in the case. Support and encourage police reform using facts, statistics, a different person MLK, Jackie Robinson, Rosa Parks, anyone else.

I'm not against police reform, prison reform, and other programs that can help.  Being on the right side of the political spectrum, I can also agree on this

[wadesworld]

Wades, I'm not saying we can't do better.  we need to.  My issue is MU supporting Mr. Blake given his past and the evidence in the case. Support and encourage police reform using facts, statistics, a different person MLK, Jackie Robinson, Rosa Parks, anyone else.

I'm not against police reform, prison reform, and other programs that can help.  Being on the right side of the political spectrum, I can also agree on this

MLK was looked at the same way that many of the people the BLM movement have highlighted are.  I'd even argue it's better to "support Mr. Blake."  Does he have a checkered past?  Sure.  Does that mean he deserves to be paralyzed after being shot 7 times in the back because two police officers couldn't get control of the situation?  Nope.  They "supported Mr. Blake" because it's in their back yard and the decision not to charge the police officer involved came down today.  This wasn't just some random decision to pick out someone to support out of nowhere.

[Johnny B]

Doesn't change that the team doesn't want fans that aren't with them on and off the court. And I'm pretty sure that extends beyond Theo, will extend beyond this current roster, & will extend beyond Wojo.

whose really with somone on every single issue? im probaly with the team on the vast majority of political issues and police brutality cases. blake didnt deserve getting shot 7 times. we need reform. we need a better way. Given the type of guy blake seemed to be at the time im just not up for honoring the guy. why should i? if that alone means i should renounce my fanship, thats kinda sad.

[mileskishnish72]

This is such bullsh!t. I can watch the hews for this partisan crap.
Is this not a basketball board?

[Viper]

Please refer them to Theo's statement.

make a statement? Sure. Take a stand? Ok. I'm all for it. But know what the hell you are taking a stand for. Ok Theo, I'll step aside as you support Marxism and Fascism  ...something I guarantee you know nothing of. Btw, is a 13-15' face-up too much to ask for?

[FrennA]

BLM, if next game they decide to honor McClain, perhaps you'll see all scoopers, including me, come out in support of it because we are not uncomfortable admitting there are racial injustices but perhaps we are uncomfortable praising the likes of someone like Blake while also attending events like "Take back the night".  Is this really that hard to understand?  I wonder how those of the "Me too" movement feels about Blake.  Maybe they're MU fans, or maybe they can't be if Theo has already said so. 

[Galway Eagle]

make a statement? Sure. Take a stand? Ok. I'm all for it. But know what the hell you are taking a stand for. Ok Theo, I'll step aside as you support Marxism and Fascism  ...something I guarantee you know nothing of. Btw, is a 13-15' face-up too much to ask for?

Marxism and fascism are not the same maybe you should read up. Also do you distrust your alma matter that much to not have explained these governmental  structures to a senior at this point or are you implying he's a meat head or something else?

Edit are you also the type of person that uses socialism and communism interchangeably? Do you use democratic socialism and socialism interchangeably? I'd say if the answer is yes you're the one who knows nothing

[wadesworld]

make a statement? Sure. Take a stand? Ok. I'm all for it. But know what the hell you are taking a stand for. Ok Theo, I'll step aside as you support Marxism and Fascism  ...something I guarantee you know nothing of. Btw, is a 13-15' face-up too much to ask for?

Ahh yes. The old bury your head in the sand so you don't have to face reality.

BLM, if next game they decide to honor McClain, perhaps you'll see all scoopers, including me, come out in support of it because we are not uncomfortable admitting there are racial injustices but perhaps we are uncomfortable praising the likes of someone like Blake while also attending events like "Take back the night".  Is this really that hard to understand?  I wonder how those of the "Me too" movement feels about Blake.  Maybe they're MU fans, or maybe they can't be if Theo has already said so. 

So if a bad guy gets unjustly shot by police it's just "meh, he wasn't a good guy?" Sorry, but yes, that is a pretty hard outlook for me to understand. Nobody is "praising" Jacob Blake. They are bringing awareness to an unarmed black man, regardless of his character, being shot in the back 7 times by the people that are supposed to serve and protect our community.

[Viper]

or just not follow any team until Marquette decides to care about winning again. You are right, more to life than college ball, I have better things to do than watch a trash product. Many other  fans feel the same...hopefully that lights a fire under someones rear

Agreed, and, it won't

[5DollarPitcher]

This is such bullsh!t. I can watch the hews for this partisan crap.
Is this not a basketball board?

I was told by Rocky that any discussion of Jacob Blake is not considered political because basic human rights is not political.

So since Wojo got his ass handed to him on a platter this is what the board will be until further notice.

[Galway Eagle]

At the end of the day officer was by the drivers seat and at point blank range. Shout tire or him once.

I'm not pro Jacob Blake, see my post in the Kenosha thread, but he's not deserving of being paralyzed or shot seven times.

[Viper]

The next time a SE Wisconsin law enforcement officer gets murdered in the line of duty, I'll wait for MU to wear a jersey in that person's honor...

Amen

[Galway Eagle]

The next time a SE Wisconsin law enforcement officer gets murdered in the line of duty, I'll wait for MU to wear a jersey in that person's honor...

False equivalency

[Bad_Reporter]

I won't ever understand how you can't understand that a guy with a previous warrant out for rape, disorderly conduct, and stealing a car is shot when the police are called and they know he has a warrant for these crimes.

The guy is told to get on the ground, he doesn't.  He's tased twice by two separate officers, and nothing.   The guy starts walking to the car, opens the door as the cop is on his back yelling at him to stop.  There's a knife in the door. He gets shot 7 times.   

I get it, and understand why/how it happened.  Police are trained to shoot to kill. (Whether that should be a part of new police reform is up for discussion) although in this case, the officer did what he's trained to do.

Respect authority.  That never was going to happen given his past and the events that led up to the shooting.

[ski44]

I don't remember Marquette basketball players being upset when four Milwaukee Police officers were killed in 2018 and 2019.