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The Sultan

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on December 09, 2020, 06:25:15 AM
Koby played great. He looks like an NBA guard.

I don't know about that.  He's a good college player but would be pretty run of the mill in the NBA.  Not terribly quick.  Not much of a handle.  Would need to become a more consistent scorer.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 09, 2020, 06:35:33 AM
I don't know about that.  He's a good college player but would be pretty run of the mill in the NBA.  Not terribly quick.  Not much of a handle.  Would need to become a more consistent scorer.

Sounds like Dwight Buycks.

The Sultan

That would be his ceiling IMO.
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brewcity77

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 09, 2020, 06:43:45 AM
That would be his ceiling IMO.

That could be his ceiling, but I feel like he's further along as a collegian than Dwight ever was when he was here. Dwight always played a bit reckless, like he was still on the playground.

As far as the NBA, the key for Dwight was embracing that he had to become a PG and spending time in Europe honing those skills. Koby would likely have to go through a similar improvement when it comes to his distribution.

The Sultan

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 09, 2020, 06:51:56 AM
That could be his ceiling, but I feel like he's further along as a collegian than Dwight ever was when he was here. Dwight always played a bit reckless, like he was still on the playground.

As far as the NBA, the key for Dwight was embracing that he had to become a PG and spending time in Europe honing those skills. Koby would likely have to go through a similar improvement when it comes to his distribution.

I meant his ceiling as an NBA player but yeah I agree with you completely
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DoctorV

Koby. Looked great, the team can use more of that guy.

I told my wife when I realized that he looked comfortable and in control out there that this could be one of the 3/4 games this year that he plays great, and then just reverts back to same ol Koby for the rest of em.

I really hope he proves me wrong. It would be really good for this years team if he was a steady good presence and took on that bulldog senior leadership role with Theo.

To his credit, Koby almost always plays good defense and rebounds well. He always looks like he's putting in max effort and wants to win badly. When his shot is on and he's playing composed and doesn't look to be in his head he can be very good, we got that last night.

Im honestly not sure which way his season will go- I'd still wager that we get more of the 3/4 good games Koby than the surprisingly good senior season version. That said, if we could get the 3-4 last night type game Koby in combination with the steady, plays within himself and towards his strengths Koby for two thirds of the conference games Id take it in a heartbeat.

Markusquette

Quote from: mjmjun26 on December 08, 2020, 10:07:19 PM
Koby was interviewed on FS1 after the game. Seems like a really nice kid.

Like how he couldn't contain his laughter after mentioning the older guys probably don't listen to the younger generation music he listens to before the games.

dgies9156

Quote from: Markusquette on December 09, 2020, 09:06:12 AM
Like how he couldn't contain his laughter after mentioning the older guys probably don't listen to the younger generation music he listens to before the games.

Yeah, like I'll bet Lavin listens to Drake before every game he calls  LOL!.

Jockey

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2020, 06:42:02 AM
Sounds like Dwight Buycks.

Except it doesn't. Buycks was very quick and had a good handle.

brewcity77

Quote from: Jockey on December 09, 2020, 11:17:01 AM
Except it doesn't. Buycks was very quick and had a good handle.

Buycks was always quick, but I think his handle really improved overseas. He was a bit reckless here but got his cup of coffee in the NBA and has been one of the best TBT players because of that development after he left Marquette.

fjm

Koby looked refreshed.

Still haven't seen him do the half court pass 2 feet too high into the stands yet this year. That's a good feeling.

Skatastrophy

Quote from: fjm on December 09, 2020, 11:28:06 AM
Koby looked refreshed.


Koby looked like he didn't get too tilted all game.

His challenges seem to be mental, not physical. If he can keep a cooler head, or if he can channel his frustration into competitive drive, he will be great.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Jockey on December 09, 2020, 11:17:01 AM
Except it doesn't. Buycks was very quick and had a good handle.

Buycks senior year his turnover rate was 26%.  If that is your definition of "good handle" I see visions of Louisville dancing in my head.

Koby's senior year so far he has a 15% turnover rate.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2020, 12:06:51 PM
Buycks senior year his turnover rate was 26%.  If that is your definition of "good handle" I see visions of Louisville dancing in my head.

Koby's senior year so far he has a 15% turnover rate.

Was just about to bring that up about Buycks at Ville
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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 09, 2020, 06:35:33 AM
I don't know about that.  He's a good college player but would be pretty run of the mill in the NBA.  Not terribly quick.  Not much of a handle.  Would need to become a more consistent scorer.
Isnt a run of the mill NBA guard........still in the NBA?

Jockey

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2020, 12:06:51 PM
Buycks senior year his turnover rate was 26%.  If that is your definition of "good handle" I see visions of Louisville dancing in my head.

Koby's senior year so far he has a 15% turnover rate.

Non-passive PGs (or forwards) are going to turn the ball over.

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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Jockey on December 09, 2020, 01:20:06 PM
Non-passive PGs (or forwards) are going to turn the ball over.

I guess Travis (15.6% senior year) and Dom (15.9%) were non-passive, then.

naginiF

Quote from: Skatastrophy on December 09, 2020, 11:40:52 AM
Koby looked like he didn't get too tilted all game.

His challenges seem to be mental, not physical. If he can keep a cooler head, or if he can channel his frustration into competitive drive, he will be great.
when he didn't get the foul call on the bank-in 3 I thought "whelp, that's going to do him in" based on his body language. Last year it would've hopefully you are correct and he's learned to use it to fuel the competitiveness.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Jockey on December 09, 2020, 01:20:06 PM
Non-passive PGs (or forwards) are going to turn the ball over.

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 09, 2020, 02:18:55 PM
I guess Travis (15.6% senior year) and Dom (15.9%) were non-passive, then.

Not to mention Markus last year (15.2%)
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Jockey

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 09, 2020, 03:53:12 PM
Not to mention Markus last year (15.2%)

Context matters though. In their 1st year in the program, Markus turned the ball over more in fewer minutes per game.

Dwight only played 2years. Comparing that to stats of guys in their 3rd and 4th years isn't quite the same.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on December 09, 2020, 04:08:59 PM
Context matters though. In their 1st year in the program, Markus turned the ball over more in fewer minutes per game.

Dwight only played 2years. Comparing that to stats of guys in their 3rd and 4th years isn't quite the same.

Dwight was 22 years old his playing his senior season. Not sure it makes more sense to compare that to a 17 year old freshman Markus than it does to compare a 21 year old senior Markus.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: BLM on December 09, 2020, 04:11:37 PM
Dwight was 22 years old his playing his senior season. Not sure it makes more sense to compare that to a 17 year old freshman Markus than it does to compare a 21 year old senior Markus.

Plus, Buycks played four years of college too, under two systems just as Koby did.  All numbers are from senior year, the season NBA scouts are deep into evaluations.

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