Marquette Faces Pushback on Faculty Cuts

[Dr. Blackheart]

My understanding is that applications and admits are up...but deposits are down.

(Applications and admits are up at a lot of places by the way.  Kids are bored and apparently biding their time applying to more schools.)

I think COVID uncertainty is delaying decisions as well. Will classes be live? Can students socialize? Why pay MU money if on Zoom?

[StillAWarrior]

I think COVID uncertainty is delaying decisions as well. Will classes be live? Can students socialize? Why pay MU money if on Zoom?

From our experience, it's been a really interesting college application season. Our youngest is a HS senior and we're seeing a lot more kids in her class get deferred than we saw when our older kids were applying. I don't know if it's because applications are up or if it's because they're having a hard time modeling what their yield is going to look like, but it is striking. We know of at least 25 kids who got deferred at tOSU - most of whom have resumes that would have gotten them admitted in past years. I'm curious if that's a widespread situation or if it's just limited to our circle of acquaintances.

[warriorchick]

I think COVID uncertainty is delaying decisions as well. Will classes be live? Can students socialize? Why pay MU money if on Zoom?

FTR Marquette plans to go back to normal in-person classes in the fall:

https://today.marquette.edu/2021/03/a-message-from-president-lovell-marquette-plans-for-in-person-experience-for-our-students-this-fall/?fbclid=IwAR1BOzRnaOYx7--O6_gsIZD0GtTMAkz1UzfeOCZT1GUoFbtYrBGuq3K86Ik

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

From our experience, it's been a really interesting college application season. Our youngest is a HS senior and we're seeing a lot more kids in her class get deferred than we saw when our older kids were applying. I don't know if it's because applications are up or if it's because they're having a hard time modeling what their yield is going to look like, but it is striking. We know of at least 25 kids who got deferred at tOSU - most of whom have resumes that would have gotten them admitted in past years. I'm curious if that's a widespread situation or if it's just limited to our circle of acquaintances.

Maybe more students are applying to public universities due to COVID?

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

The last 6 weeks my daughter has gotten a ton of postcards basically with the same message "We're still accepting application.  There is still time to apply."

Two years ago, I don't recall my older daughter receiving any like this.

[StillAWarrior]

Maybe more students are applying to public universities due to COVID?

Perhaps. I suppose that data will released at some point. I'll have to remember to follow up.

It's been an interesting process compared to our other kids. I'll be happy when it's over. I think we're down to just two contenders, so hopefully she'll decide by the end of the month.

[Disco Hippie]

My understanding is that applications and admits are up...but deposits are down.

(Applications and admits are up at a lot of places by the way.  Kids are bored and apparently biding their time applying to more schools.)

I was in touch with MU's admissions rep that handles the Northeast a few days ago and was told they've seen a healthy increase in overall applications compared to last year, and interestingly, from a significantly wider geographic footprint across the country than they've seen in over a decade.  Applications from my home state of CT are up 40% year over year.   No idea what to attribute that to but I think it's fair to say it's not due to the success of our men's basketball program.  Definitely welcome news though.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I was in touch with MU's admissions rep that handles the Northeast a few days ago and was told they've seen a healthy increase in overall applications compared to last year, and interestingly, from a significantly wider geographic footprint across the country than they've seen in over a decade.  Applications from my home state of CT are up 40% year over year.   No idea what to attribute that to but I think it's fair to say it's not due to the success of our men's basketball program.  Definitely welcome news though.

Acceptance rate no Matta, aina?

[muwarrior69]

Unfortunately, Marquette's nursing program is so competitive that MU doesn't have much of an incentive to increase financial aid.  They can probably just admit someone off of their waiting list.

You can make good money with just BSN right out of school.  My daughter just has an RN and makes 45/hour part time. Once in awhile she'll be called by her employer to cover their clinic in Northern Jersey and get paid double time.

[warriorchick]

You can make good money with just BSN right out of school.  My daughter just has an RN and makes 45/hour part time. Once in awhile she'll be called by her employer to cover their clinic in Northern Jersey and get paid double time.

Does she get benefits?  If not, that's not all that great (especially given  the cost of living on the East Coast.

My daughter, even before she got her Masters. was probably making as much (or more) as the Bus Adders who graduated the same year.

That's what happens when smart women have options other than Nurse and Teacher for a career path.  Supply and demand.  It took 100 years, but I am glad that parity has finally happened.  Given the nursing shortage, it's too bad more men don't consider that option.

[StillAWarrior]

You can make good money with just BSN right out of school.  My daughter just has an RN and makes 45/hour part time. Once in awhile she'll be called by her employer to cover their clinic in Northern Jersey and get paid double time.

My daughter, even before she got her Masters. was probably making as much (or more) as the Bus Adders who graduated the same year.

These posts make me happy. My daughter who is picking a college right now* is planning on getting a BSN with an eye toward eventually being a NP.

*Actually, she told me today she thinks she’s decided. We’re going to tour this weekend just to make sure.

[muwarrior69]

Does she get benefits?  If not, that's not all that great (especially given  the cost of living on the East Coast.

My daughter, even before she got her Masters. was probably making as much (or more) as the Bus Adders who graduated the same year.

That's what happens when smart women have options other than Nurse and Teacher for a career path.  Supply and demand.  It took 100 years, but I am glad that parity has finally happened.  Given the nursing shortage, it's too bad more men don't consider that option.

Yes, and 401K. It's not always about the money, but the flexibility in scheduling her time and being there for her daughter. She would have no problem getting 12hr shifts at the hospitals in our area and has been offered several managerial positions, but chose not to. My daughters graduating class was 25% men.

[warriorchick]

In other Marquette Nursing news, it was announced by the BOT that the College of Nursing will be moving into Straz Hall after the Bus Ad moves into its new building.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

That's significantly larger than Clark Hall right?

[warriorchick]

That's significantly larger than Clark Hall right?

Yes, indeed.  The nursing school enrollment has increased by over 50% in the last decade or so.

[cheebs09]

Yes, indeed.  The nursing school enrollment has increased by over 50% in the last decade or so.

I only had one class in Clark, so don’t know what goes into a nursing school building. Will they have to do a lot of work to put in labs and other things?

[warriorchick]

I only had one class in Clark, so don’t know what goes into a nursing school building. Will they have to do a lot of work to put in labs and other things?

I don't think they have worked out many of the details yet.

They built a pretty kickass simulation lab about 8 years ago. 

https://www.marquette.edu/nursing/students-simulation.php

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I still have dreams that I have a class in either Clark Hall or the old health science building, and I can't find them.  So I just wander around the science end of campus and wake up in a cold sweat.

[Hards Alumni]

I still have dreams that I have a class in either Clark Hall or the old health science building, and I can't find them.  So I just wander around the science end of campus and wake up in a cold sweat.

Similarly, I wander campus and can't find the final for the class I haven't been to for all semester.

[StillAWarrior]

Yes, indeed.  The nursing school enrollment has increased by over 50% in the last decade or so.

How many are there now, Chick?

[mu_hilltopper]

Probably should have it's own thread, but yeah, I have a recurring MU dream too. 

For me, even though I was out in 4 years .. the dream is that I'm there, 7-8-9 years skating by, taking a class because I don't have a job and have nothing better to do so I'm just racking up credits.

I don't know what that means.

[tower912]

I used to have the one about having a final in a class I never attended.    That one ended when I beat my department's version of the Koboyashi Maru.     When I dream about college now, I find myself, at my current age, getting stuck in a freshman dorm.   Probably a symbol for me getting old.   

[Dr. Blackheart]

Probably should have it's own thread, but yeah, I have a recurring MU dream too. 

For me, even though I was out in 4 years .. the dream is that I'm there, 7-8-9 years skating by, taking a class because I don't have a job and have nothing better to do so I'm just racking up credits.

I don't know what that means.

9 years to judge

[dgies9156]

I used to have the one about having a final in a class I never attended.    That one ended when I beat my department's version of the Koboyashi Maru.     When I dream about college now, I find myself, at my current age, getting stuck in a freshman dorm.   Probably a symbol for me getting old.

I have a version of that. I'm in my second semester senior year and I forgot about a class that was needed for graduation. I get halfway through the semester and suddenly remember -- oops. What an awful dream especially since I had to find a way to pay for another semester.

Today I just dream we have a championship caliber basketball team. Sometimes I think that's a fairy tale.

[Galway Eagle]

I still have a dream that my high school reached out to MU that I never actually graduated HS and MU and NUIG then void my bachelors and masters and I need to repeat HS, then meet whatever new requirements there are to graduate from MU which I then fail.

It's dreams like this that cause me to drink.