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MUBurrow

I hope the Dolphins make a call. If there is actually a deal to be made here (remains to be seen), they have the cap space and the draft capital.  I was lukewarm on them making the same type of deal for Watson pre-allegations, but I'd be all in on a Rodgers trade if he's willing to go somewhere other than San Fran.  Only downside is that Tua wouldn't appeal to the Packers with Love on the roster, but they should be able to move Tua somewhere else for a decent second day pick.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 29, 2021, 02:38:38 PM
HOF QB asking out?  We're still not the Bears, but its the worst day in franchise history probably since the early 90s.


They have given me more joy than I have ever expected they would.  It never sucks to be a Packer fan.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MUBurrow

Also - does the timing of this make anyone else think there's a real chance something happens in the next 6 hours?  For this to come out now makes me wonder if there is actually some traction on a trade, and this is a little preliminary PR work on the part of the Packers front office before a bomb drops.

The Sultan

Quote from: MUBurrow on April 29, 2021, 02:48:37 PM
Also - does the timing of this make anyone else think there's a real chance something happens in the next 6 hours?  For this to come out now makes me wonder if there is actually some traction on a trade, and this is a little preliminary PR work on the part of the Packers front office before a bomb drops.


Tom Silverstein
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Statement from GM Brian Gutekunst: "As we've stated since the season ended, we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond. Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team."


That would be hard to walk back.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: MUBurrow on April 29, 2021, 02:48:37 PM
Also - does the timing of this make anyone else think there's a real chance something happens in the next 6 hours?  For this to come out now makes me wonder if there is actually some traction on a trade, and this is a little preliminary PR work on the part of the Packers front office before a bomb drops.

If the Packers let this out without a #donedeal trade they've shot themselves in the foot... or started a bidding war.

There were tweets earlier today that said teams had made inquiries about Rodgers this off-season, and the Packers claimed to have turned them down flatly.

I think SF was one, and it was today.

Jockey

Quote from: BLM on April 29, 2021, 02:34:08 PM
Trade him to Jacksonville for 1 overall.  Start Love until the offensive line gets healthy/good.

No thanks. I don't want to battle the Lions for last place.

This is why Gutey needs to be fired. NOW!!! He wants to pull a Jerry Krause. He thinks since he fell into a HOF QB, that he built something.

I fully expected this after Gutey's "vote of confidence" thAt was actually a "F**k you, Aaron".

The Sultan

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 29, 2021, 02:53:13 PM

Tom Silverstein
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Statement from GM Brian Gutekunst: "As we've stated since the season ended, we are committed to Aaron in 2021 and beyond. Aaron has been a vital part of our success and we look forward to competing for another championship with him leading our team."


That would be hard to walk back.


Then again....


ProFootballTalk
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Source with knowledge of dynamics says Aaron Rodgers could indeed be traded this weekend. The question is where?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: Jockey on April 29, 2021, 02:55:20 PM
No thanks. I don't want to battle the Lions for last place.

This is why Gutey needs to be fired. NOW!!! He wants to pull a Jerry Krause. He thinks since he fell into a HOF QB, that he built something.

I fully expected this after Gutey's "vote of confidence" thAt was actually a "F**k you, Aaron".


They aren't firing the GM.  Don't be silly.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Warrior Code

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 29, 2021, 02:34:31 PM
Fine, trade him.  If he wants out, you don't force him to play for you.

It really unnatural carnal knowledge;ng sucks to be a Packer fan right now.

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MUBurrow

You guys are probably right, and I don't mean to be too tinfoil hat. The report that this has been known all offseason, the Packers have been flying people out to see him to try to address it, and today it comes out to multiple sources ("league and team sources told ESPN") hours befopre the draft just feels really intentional by someone.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on April 29, 2021, 02:55:20 PM
No thanks. I don't want to battle the Lions for last place.

This is why Gutey needs to be fired. NOW!!! He wants to pull a Jerry Krause. He thinks since he fell into a HOF QB, that he built something.

I fully expected this after Gutey's "vote of confidence" thAt was actually a "F**k you, Aaron".

If you replace Rodgers with Lawrence, have your 29th pick, and trade Love for a 3rd you'd still be the best team in the NFC North if your offensive line can hold up until Bakhtiari is back.  The Jags would never even consider trading 1 overall for Rodgers, though.

Trade Rodgers for 3 and a number of other picks from the 9ers, take Pitts at 3 and Bateman at 29, and show Rodgers what weapons look like with Adams, MVS, Bateman, and two TEs (Pitts and Tonion) and two RBs (Jones and Dillon).

Warrior Code

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on April 29, 2021, 02:57:15 PM
Yes, very much so.

Well you won't get much sympathy from this Bears fan, haha
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MuggsyB

Rodgers to Da Bears??  :)

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Warrior Code on April 29, 2021, 03:01:26 PM
Well you won't get much sympathy from this Bears fan, haha

I expect exactly zero haha

4everwarriors

Rodgers is shy like a fox. He waited 'til basically the clock struck midnight and leaked wanting out of GB. Thereby, painting the Pack into a corner and greatly reducing their bargaining power within 4 hours of the draft. Never underestimate an MVP scorned, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

tower912

I suddenly appreciate the new Lions front office moving so quickly with Stafford.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 29, 2021, 03:07:25 PM
Rodgers is shy like a fox. He waited 'til basically the clock struck midnight and leaked wanting out of GB. Thereby, painting the Pack into a corner and greatly reducing their bargaining power within 4 hours of the draft. Never underestimate an MVP scorned, aina?


I'm not understanding why he is "scorned" though.  He has a coach that runs a modern offense.  They have an All Pro receiver, OLT, RB, and have played in the last two NFC Championship Games.  They have offered him an extension but doesn't seem willing to listen. 
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Jockey

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Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 29, 2021, 02:56:33 PM

They aren't firing the GM.  Don't be silly.

Obviously.

I just wish they would. Gutey is the root of this.

forgetful

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 29, 2021, 03:14:44 PM

I'm not understanding why he is "scorned" though.  He has a coach that runs a modern offense.  They have an All Pro receiver, OLT, RB, and have played in the last two NFC Championship Games.  They have offered him an extension but doesn't seem willing to listen.

I'm honestly wondering if a big part of this is the new woman in his life has zero interest in being in Green Bay, and would like him to move to California all year.

Jockey

Quote from: BLM on April 29, 2021, 02:59:36 PM
If you replace Rodgers with Lawrence, have your 29th pick, and trade Love for a 3rd you'd still be the best team in the NFC North if your offensive line can hold up until Bakhtiari is back.  The Jags would never even consider trading 1 overall for Rodgers, though.

Trade Rodgers for 3 and a number of other picks from the 9ers, take Pitts at 3 and Bateman at 29, and show Rodgers what weapons look like with Adams, MVS, Bateman, and two TEs (Pitts and Tonion) and two RBs (Jones and Dillon).

If Lawrence is as good as claimed, why would Jacksonville do this. A couple more years of Rodgers for a generational 21 year old? No way.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jockey on April 29, 2021, 03:22:14 PM
If Lawrence is as good as claimed, why would Jacksonville do this. A couple more years of Rodgers for a generational 21 year old? No way.

The line of "generational" 1st overall picks that amount to squat is pretty long.

You take the sure thing HOF guy 10 out of 10 times, imo.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on April 29, 2021, 03:22:14 PM
If Lawrence is as good as claimed, why would Jacksonville do this. A couple more years of Rodgers for a generational 21 year old? No way.

That's why I ended the first part of the post with "The Jags would never even consider trading 1 overall for Rodgers, though."

The Lens

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on April 29, 2021, 03:14:44 PM

I'm not understanding why he is "scorned" though.  He has a coach that runs a modern offense.  They have an All Pro receiver, OLT, RB, and have played in the last two NFC Championship Games.  They have offered him an extension but doesn't seem willing to listen.

The offered him an extension that was probably suitable to them but not him.  He wants to be the highest paid QB. Everything else is window dressing.
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BM1090

Would bet a lot of $ that he'll be back.

Russ demanded a trade two months ago and now everything is fine. He'll get his extension.

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