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jesmu84

10 year/$100 billion for the NFL. Wow.

I'm assuming cables prices will continue to increase.

jesmu84

Quote from: Jockey on March 18, 2021, 06:59:37 PM
Quinn + Dalton = Fuller release.

Will Hicks be next?

Hicks wants a trade

Dish

They're such a $hit show. I hope they luck into some guys in this draft and then rightfully have the dumpster fire of a season that is forthcoming. Everyone in that organization deserves misery. I'm eff'n miserable.

I was busy yesterday but that Jones contract voidable years aren't as bad as I anticipated. I've been adamant on my stance on paying or drafting RB's (for years on here), but his contract is fine. I'd still have preferred they signed Linsley, but that's me.

Dish

A Rob looked at the dried up WR free agent market and took the guaranteed $18 million. Smart move.

Mr. Nielsen

DISNEY - The Walt Disney Company, ESPN and National Football League Reach Landmark Long-Term Agreement
23 regular season games (up from 17)
Includes 3 weeks with a separate game on ABC
Saturday doubleheader in the season's final week (both simulcast on ABC and ESPN)  [Starts with the 2021 season]
1 Sunday morning game on ESPN+
Rights to the Pro Bowl
Flex scheduling (12 days' notice) starting in week 12
1 divisional playoff game each year

NBCU -NBCUNIVERSAL AND NFL REACH 11-YEAR EXTENSION & EXPANSION FOR SUNDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL, PRIMETIME TV'S #1 SHOW
All games streamed on Peacock
New exclusive, expanded postgame show on Peacock
1 game each year from 2023 through 2028 exclusively on Peacock (an additional ergular season game)
2 Wild Card games following 2023, 2026, and 2031 seasons (1 wild card game in other years)

CBS - VIACOMCBS AND NFL REACH NEW LONG-TERM MULTIPLATFORM RIGHTS AGREEMENT THROUGH THE 2033 SEASON
All games on CBS Television Network will be streamed on Paramount+
Remains home of the AFC, but includes "expanded schedule of games featuring teams from the NFC"
10 doubleheader weekends and 8 singleheaders
2 wild card games in 2024, 2029, and 2033 seasons (1 game in other years)

Fox -Fox Corporation Announces New Eleven-Year Media Rights Agreement with the National Football League
Remains home of the NFC
New NFL experience on Tubi including VOD and condensed games
Rights to special Christmas Day games if scheduled

Amazon - Amazon Prime Video Makes History as the First Streaming Service to Secure an Exclusive National Broadcast Package From the NFL, Becoming the Home for Thursday Night Football Beginning in 2023
10 year agreement [** - NOT 11 years like the other contracts]
Exclusive home to 15 Thursday Night Football games (up from 11 in the previous deal
Games will remain available free and over-the-air in the markets of the 2 teams playing

Super Bowls by network (by season, not by the year the game is played)
CBS - 2023, 2027, 2031
Fox - 2024, 2028, 2032
NBC - 2025, 2029, 2033
ABC/ESPN - 2026, 2030
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

Mr. Nielsen

Here are the money figures tallied up with regard to the last deal:

ESPN: $2 billion to $2.7 billion
CBS: $1 billion to $2.1 billion
FOX: $1.1 billion to $2 billion, but they save $600 million now that TNF is gone (that package is averaging $400 million in losses)
NBC: $950 million to $2 billion.
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

MU82

I guess sports on TV aren't quite dead yet.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

hairy worthen

Quote from: MU82 on March 18, 2021, 10:41:04 PM
I guess sports on TV aren't quite dead yet.
For football at least I thought the opposite was true. The television experience is so much better than being there, at least in terms of viewing the game.

hairy worthen

Quote from: Jockey on March 18, 2021, 07:07:23 PM
Is this where Arod says re-do my contract to open cap room for Fuller. It would take some work, but gotta act when the window is open.

Maybe, Packers made an offer on his tender in 2018 forcing the Bears to match. Based on the Packers activity in the free agent market so far it doesn't seem likely.

The Sultan

I'm wondering if Rodgers is holding off on a restructure based on what he wants to see added to the team.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

hairy worthen

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 19, 2021, 08:40:36 AM
I'm wondering if Rodgers is holding off on a restructure based on what he wants to see added to the team.
Thats what I am thinking. They probably have an agreement in place and are waiting until they find someone they need to sign. No need to announce anything now as long as they are under the cap. Adams too.

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on March 19, 2021, 08:40:36 AM
I'm wondering if Rodgers is holding off on a restructure based on what he wants to see added to the team.

I'm worried that it's Gutey holding off. I would think a re-structure would mean Aaron is in GB for at least 3 more years. Gutey may want to go Jerry Krause on us all and show that he can build a team on his own with his anointed guy at QB. And, just like with Krause, that would be a huge mistake.

JWags85

Tony Buzbee is now up to 12 women and allegedly speaking to 10 more about claims against Deshaun Watson. And contrary to what's been said or reported, the Houston PD stated today that they have received no contact or communication as of yet about criminal charges.  So all the cases are civil.

Sexual assault is not something to be brushed aside and victims deserve to be heard and not shamed, but my god is this fishier by the day.

Either Deshaun Watson is a prolific and rampant sexual predator who has been terrorizing women with no smoke or rumor around him for the last few years, despite a sterling reputation around Houston (my cousin's husband is an assistant with the Texans and couldn't rave more about him), allegations that have rapidly came to light as he's openly and publicly been feuding with the team and requesting a trade.

Or this is a PR hit by a lawyer with a history of attention seeking public behavior who happens to be a good friend and neighbor of Cal McNair.

Regardless, this is as wild a story as I've seen in awhile

RJax55

Quote from: JWags85 on March 19, 2021, 07:13:43 PM
Tony Buzbee is now up to 12 women and allegedly speaking to 10 more about claims against Deshaun Watson. And contrary to what's been said or reported, the Houston PD stated today that they have received no contact or communication as of yet about criminal charges.  So all the cases are civil.

Sexual assault is not something to be brushed aside and victims deserve to be heard and not shamed, but my god is this fishier by the day.

Either Deshaun Watson is a prolific and rampant sexual predator who has been terrorizing women with no smoke or rumor around him for the last few years, despite a sterling reputation around Houston (my cousin's husband is an assistant with the Texans and couldn't rave more about him), allegations that have rapidly came to light as he's openly and publicly been feuding with the team and requesting a trade.

Or this is a PR hit by a lawyer with a history of attention seeking public behavior who happens to be a good friend and neighbor of Cal McNair.

Regardless, this is as wild a story as I've seen in awhile

Who knows, definitely a crazy story that just exploded in a few days. The connection between McNair and Buzbee does raise an eyebrow. That said, the fact they know each other doesn't mean the allegations against Watson are false.

Jockey

Need to see if there is an email trail between Buzbee and Rasputin.

CreightonWarrior

Is Wilson to the bears not dead yet? Some smoke going around.

JWags85

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on March 26, 2021, 11:27:03 AM
Is Wilson to the bears not dead yet? Some smoke going around.

Until its definitively reported, im not even letting myself consider it.  Im just assuming its another season of misery with Dalton.

In other QB news, SF sending a bunch of picks to Miami to move up to 3?  Dang.  That changes up the calculus of the top 5 picks a bit.

RJax55

Quote from: JWags85 on March 26, 2021, 01:25:19 PM
Until its definitively reported, im not even letting myself consider it.  Im just assuming its another season of misery with Dalton.

In other QB news, SF sending a bunch of picks to Miami to move up to 3?  Dang.  That changes up the calculus of the top 5 picks a bit.

The Dolphins get extra mileage out of the Tunsil deal.

Jimmy G got the dreaded vote of confidence today from the 49ers. But the 49ers didn't give up that much draft capital to not select a QB. Trey Lance is the name being throw out there.

Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MU82

With yesterday's trades, it looks like the top 3 picks are set: Jax - Lawrence; NYJ - Wilson; SF - Fields (unless SF prefers Lance to Fields).

The next few will be interesting. Will Atl take Fields/Lance as heir apparent to Ryan? Will Cinci go OT or WR/TE? Mia likely takes one of the stud WR, but will Det go QB if Fields/Lance available even though they traded for Goff? Caro apparently wants Fields or Lance; is there any chance one will still be there at 8 or will they have to trade up?

With all the legal stuff buzzing around him, it's hard to believe Hou will be able to trade Watson in less than a month.

QB intrigue!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Dish

The Dolphins overall return on Tunsil is truly staggering.

4 1sts
2 2nds
1 3rd

The Bengals are gigantic winners with all this trade action. The best spot (IMO) to be in the draft is the first team that doesn't have to draft a QB. I personally would take Sewell if I were Cincy, and lock down a stud left tackle for the next decade. They'll be plenty of WR's they can take early in Round 2.

It won't happen, but it's be funny to see ATL say "eff it" and take Chase at 4, then they line up Julio/Ridley/Chase.

JWags85

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 27, 2021, 01:02:49 PM
The Dolphins overall return on Tunsil is truly staggering.

4 1sts
2 2nds
1 3rd

The Bengals are gigantic winners with all this trade action. The best spot (IMO) to be in the draft is the first team that doesn't have to draft a QB. I personally would take Sewell if I were Cincy, and lock down a stud left tackle for the next decade. They'll be plenty of WR's they can take early in Round 2.

It won't happen, but it's be funny to see ATL say "eff it" and take Chase at 4, then they line up Julio/Ridley/Chase.

Still need to win and Tua is still a question mark, but Chris Grier has been extremely impressive in his 5 years.

MU82

What do folks think of Mac Jones' potential as an NFL QB?

He seems mechanical to me, and judging from photos I've seen of his workouts, he looks like he enjoys 6-packs rather than having 6-pack abs. But he actually moves quite well - 4.7 time in the 40 - and it's impossible to argue with his production at Bama.

Aside from Lawrence, he's arguably the most known quantity among all the QBs available. That can be a good thing or a bad thing.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on March 30, 2021, 08:56:19 AM
What do folks think of Mac Jones' potential as an NFL QB?

He seems mechanical to me, and judging from photos I've seen of his workouts, he looks like he enjoys 6-packs rather than having 6-pack abs. But he actually moves quite well - 4.7 time in the 40 - and it's impossible to argue with his production at Bama.

Aside from Lawrence, he's arguably the most known quantity among all the QBs available. That can be a good thing or a bad thing.


I think Jones is good.  2nd round good.  I think it is tough to judge someone when they have weapons all over the place on offense, but he throws the ball well.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Non-Salesperson Time-Waster on March 30, 2021, 09:04:59 AM

I think Jones is good.  2nd round good.  I think it is tough to judge someone when they have weapons all over the place on offense, but he throws the ball well.

You could make the same weapons case against Lawrence and Fields, I suppose.
Jones to me is one of those guys whose whole is better than the sum of his parts. Not a stellar athlete. Good, but not great, size. Good enough arm, but won't wow you like Zach Wilson. His one outstanding trait is that he reads the game really well and knows his limitations, and thus rarely makes the wrong throw.
In the right situation, I think he can be a good NFL QB, but maybe not the guy who's going to carry a team on his back.

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