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JWags85

BB went 11-5 with Matt Cassell who wasn't starting in the league a few years later. And that first Super Bowl with Brady. He was 2nd year guy with no experience and who wasn't a world beater at Michigan. That was all scheme and putting people in the right positions, it wasn't cause Brady came in as a ready made great.

There is likely some give and take, but I gonna give the benefit to a guy who has nearly complete control over personnel and football operations as opposed to a single player on one side of the ball who has looked markedly human once he's left, regardless of age.  And that's coming from a omeone who doesn't really like BB and thinks he's a douche

cheebs09

I believe NE had a lot of defensive guys opt out this year as well.


Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on November 10, 2020, 10:03:20 AM
BB went 11-5 with Matt Cassell who wasn't starting in the league a few years later. And that first Super Bowl with Brady. He was 2nd year guy with no experience and who wasn't a world beater at Michigan. That was all scheme and putting people in the right positions, it wasn't cause Brady came in as a ready made great.

There is likely some give and take, but I gonna give the benefit to a guy who has nearly complete control over personnel and football operations as opposed to a single player on one side of the ball who has looked markedly human once he's left, regardless of age.  And that's coming from a omeone who doesn't really like BB and thinks he's a douche

I agree that Belichick is among the best coaches ever. However, it is plain as day that he would not be in that group without Brady.

My point still stands, though. Great players are everything.

Jockey

Quote from: Pakuni on November 10, 2020, 09:35:39 AM
That's quite possible, but how many coaches have won multiple titles - or even had sustained success - in the modern NFL without an elite QB?

None. that was my point.

Jockey

Quote from: DegenerateDish on November 07, 2020, 10:17:05 PM
If Uiagalelei were draft eligible this year, he'd be a top 3 pick this year.

Barring injury, he's the 2023 #1 overall pick.

I only saw him throw 2 passes and that was exactly my thought. Pro arm, pro body, pro accuracy.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: tower912 on November 09, 2020, 09:17:30 AM
Matt Patricia watch.  Harbaugh to the Lions!

How long have you been a fan of this franchise?  You shouldn't put that in teal, I believe it will actually happen.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

I think Josh McDaniel probably should have jumped at another head coaching gig while he had the chance. 
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

NFL owners have agreed to expand the playoffs to 16 teams  - four division winners and four wild cards - if the regular season can't be completed.

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 10, 2020, 12:14:59 PM
I think Josh McDaniel probably should have jumped at another head coaching gig while he had the chance.

I would say I'd be shocked if he got another look, but he's only 44 and given the way this league goes, he probably does. Though I think he's hoping he gets the nod when BB decides to retire.

But otherwise, it's really the perfect storm of "stay away" for him. Bad track record in Denver both on field and in the locker room/FO plus the BS in Indy. Generally thought of to be a jackass. Offense has looked terrible not just this year, but the last year or two, too gimmicky and cutesy. Then top it off with most BB disciples flaming out quickly in head gigs. So I'm sure the Bears will hire him when Nagy gets tossed  ::)

MU82

Quote from: #UnleashDiener on November 08, 2020, 06:56:16 PM
Bonus points, McCaffery is finally back to his starting spot on my fantasy dynasty team

Looks like McCaffrey will have to miss at least 1 game with a shoulder injury. Sucks. He was great last week.
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JWags85

I don't know if I've ever seen a faster fall off from an elite kicker than Gostkoswki. I don't know if it's lingering issues from his hip injury or what, but if he was a young or non-"name" kicker, He would have been cut 3 times already. He's horrific. Career 86%+ on FGs and he's kicking a cool 12 for 20 this year, and most of the misses have been BAD.

#UnleashSean

Quote from: MU82 on November 11, 2020, 11:26:01 AM
Looks like McCaffrey will have to miss at least 1 game with a shoulder injury. Sucks. He was great last week.

Had to trade a 1st round pick for James conner =(

The Sultan

RIP Paul Hornung. 

A decent Domer.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass


4everwarriors

Got his tit in a wringer like Ted Perry, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

RIP Golden Boy

He was Lombardi's favorite and one of the greatest Packers ever.  Shouldn't have won the Heisman but still was part of college football's greatest fraternity.

Growing up through the dark years of Packer football, tales of Hornung always made him seem larger than life. 
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 13, 2020, 12:22:33 PM
RIP Golden Boy

He was Lombardi's favorite and one of the greatest Packers ever.  Shouldn't have won the Heisman but still was part of college football's greatest fraternity.

Growing up through the dark years of Packer football, tales of Hornung always made him seem larger than life. 


His number isn't officially retired by the Packers, but #5 has only been worn a couple times since Hornung retired.  Forrest Gregg let Vince Ferragamo wear it, which caused all sorts of controversy.  I also think Majik had it during pre-season before he made the team and was forced to switch.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on November 13, 2020, 12:41:08 PM

His number isn't officially retired by the Packers, but #5 has only been worn a couple times since Hornung retired.  Forrest Gregg let Vince Ferragamo wear it, which caused all sorts of controversy.  I also think Majik had it during pre-season before he made the team and was forced to switch.

I remember the uproar over letting Ferragamo wear it.  At least he was worth it, lol
Guster is for Lovers

Jockey

Still 2nd all-time on the single-season scoring record.

The Sultan

Packers flat. Offensive game plan is awful.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Pack better hope the Bears get the 6 seed by some miracle. Don't see this team beating any NFC West/South teams in the Playoffs. They are just not good.

Jockey


tower912

#599
If I cared enough, I would rhapsodize poetic about the facemask flag against Washington on Stafford being picked up.   How if it had been Detroit against Rogers, it would have been an ejection, not picked up.   But, alas, I just can't generate an adequate level of caring.


Topped by a horrendous PI call on 4th down to extend the game for Washington. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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