2020-21 NFL Season

[GooooMarquette]

Good thing Philip Rivers isn't called upon to make many tackles....

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[jesmu84]

Bears offense sure is something.

It's amazing that their defense still tries.

[The Sultan]

Bears offense sure is something.

It's amazing that their defense still tries.

The back to back false start penalties on fourth and one made me LOL.

[Uncle Rico]

The Bears are who we thought they are

[MU82]

Panthers played probably their best game of the season in KC and still lost to the too-good Chiefs. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be the most entertaining NFL game all weekend (albeit one that few people saw).

The Panthers' coach pulled out all the stops: fake punt for a first down; went for it on 4th-and-4 for a TD; went for it on 4th-and-14 and Bridgewater made an amazing play for a first down; tried an onside kick (KC didn't expect it but the kicker, who was supposed to recover it, touched the football about a foot too soon).

But a desperation 67-yard FG attempt had no chance, and the Chiefs hung on 33-31. The Panthers could neither pressure nor corral Mahomes most of the game, and Kelce is an absolute freakin' stud.

As I said a few days ago, I would have given the 10.5 points, so the Panthers really beat the spread. Moral victory only, though.

Bonus note: Daryl Johnston is a very solid TV analyst.

[#UnleashSean]

Panthers played probably their best game of the season in KC and still lost to the too-good Chiefs. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be the most entertaining NFL game all weekend (albeit one that few people saw).

The Panthers' coach pulled out all the stops: fake punt for a first down; went for it on 4th-and-4 for a TD; went for it on 4th-and-14 and Bridgewater made an amazing play for a first down; tried an onside kick (KC didn't expect it but the kicker, who was supposed to recover it, touched the football about a foot too soon).

But a desperation 67-yard FG attempt had no chance, and the Chiefs hung on 33-31. The Panthers could neither pressure nor corral Mahomes most of the game, and Kelce is an absolute freakin' stud.

As I said a few days ago, I would have given the 10.5 points, so the Panthers really beat the spread. Moral victory only, though.

Bonus note: Daryl Johnston is a very solid TV analyst.

Bonus points, McCaffery is finally back to his starting spot on my fantasy dynasty team

[Pakuni]

The Chargers are Charlie Brown and the rest of the NFL is Lucy.

[MU82]

Bonus points, McCaffery is finally back to his starting spot on my fantasy dynasty team

He looked good ... though he was flexing his shoulder or neck late in the game and seemed in pain. Hopefully it's not bad.

[forgetful]

Well Brees vs. Brady, was interesting. One stands out as nearly flawless, the other was a dumpster fire (despite tons and tons of weapons).

[Dish]

This may end up being the worst SNF/MNF weekend of the year.

[BM1090]

This may end up being the worst SNF/MNF weekend of the year.

I was pretty excited for this game tonight. Shows what I know.

[Marquette Fan]

This may end up being the worst SNF/MNF weekend of the year.

And here I thought this game was going to be a good one and the one tomorrow night a stinker.  What do I know though 

[The Sultan]

Well Brees vs. Brady, was interesting. One stands out as nearly flawless, the other was a dumpster fire (despite tons and tons of weapons).

Get Michael Thomas back and that Saints offense goes from "deliberate" to "high speed" ai'nna?

[Pakuni]

Well Brees vs. Brady, was interesting. One stands out as nearly flawless, the other was a dumpster fire (despite tons and tons of weapons).

Are the Bucs better without Antonio Brown?

[tower912]

Matt Patricia watch.  Harbaugh to the Lions!

[Hards Alumni]

Well Brees vs. Brady, was interesting. One stands out as nearly flawless, the other was a dumpster fire (despite tons and tons of weapons).

Say it with me folks:

TOM BRADY IS A SYSTEM QUARTERBACK!!!

[Jockey]

If NE loses tonight, Belichick will have a career record BELOW .500 in games where Brady was not his QB.

One more item under the heading "great players make coaches great" - not the other way around.

[jesmu84]

If NE loses tonight, Belichick will have a career record BELOW .500 in games where Brady was not his QB.

One more item under the heading "great players make coaches great" - not the other way around.

What's the record since he's been at new England without. Brady? Or is that what you're referring to?

[Pakuni]

If NE loses tonight, Belichick will have a career record BELOW .500 in games where Brady was not his QB.

One more item under the heading "great players make coaches great" - not the other way around.

But just for context, Belichick went 5-13 in his first 18 games in New England, i.e. before Brady's first start. Since then, he's 16-11 without Brady. That's maybe not setting the earth on fire, but I imagine not many coaches set the earth on fire with their backup quarterbacks.
Obviously I'm not including Cleveland here because, well, Cleveland. But also because I'm not sure Belichick the coach from 27 years ago says much about Belichick the coach today.

[CTWarrior]

Well, the Pats made the Jets work for that one, but a couple clutch plays (12 men on the field for FGA, a dreadful pick, a sack and an incomplete pass to save NE time, running exactly pne offensive play the first 13 minutes of the 4th qtr) but the Jets kept their perfect season alive.

[Jockey]

But just for context, Belichick went 5-13 in his first 18 games in New England, i.e. before Brady's first start. Since then, he's 16-11 without Brady. That's maybe not setting the earth on fire, but I imagine not many coaches set the earth on fire with their backup quarterbacks.
Obviously I'm not including Cleveland here because, well, Cleveland. But also because I'm not sure Belichick the coach from 27 years ago says much about Belichick the coach today.

I guess my point was that no one would consider Belichick to be in the running for the GOAT coach if he hadn't had Brady.

[forgetful]

I guess my point was that no one would consider Belichick to be in the running for the GOAT coach if he hadn't had Brady.

You have immediately assumed that Belichick couldn't replicate the success with another QB. The 2001 Super Bowl was won because of their defense, and Bledsoe stepping in and winning them the AFC championship.

If you go back and look, the seasons where they did well, they always had one of the top offensive lines and strong defenses.

The bottom line is Belichick and Brady will forever be linked. It is impossible to know if one made the other "great" or if they simply made each other great.

[GooooMarquette]

I think Belichick could have been successful without Brady. But to "replicate" the level of success he had? Six Super Bowl wins? Maybe...as long as he had a guy like Manning or Brees or Rodgers.

[Jockey]

You have immediately assumed that Belichick couldn't replicate the success with another QB. The 2001 Super Bowl was won because of their defense, and Bledsoe stepping in and winning them the AFC championship.

If you go back and look, the seasons where they did well, they always had one of the top offensive lines and strong defenses.

The bottom line is Belichick and Brady will forever be linked. It is impossible to know if one made the other "great" or if they simply made each other great.

Belichick could not have replicated his success without an all-time great QB. No coach is good enough to win consistently without great players.

How many titles would Phil Jackson have without MJ and Kobe? Kerr without Curry and Durant?

Great players allow a team to win consistently.

[Pakuni]

I guess my point was that no one would consider Belichick to be in the running for the GOAT coach if he hadn't had Brady.

That's quite possible, but how many coaches have won multiple titles - or even had sustained success - in the modern NFL without an elite QB?