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Author Topic: Oh no, Dwyane  (Read 10445 times)

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Re: Oh no, Dwyane
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2020, 05:28:51 PM »
A career .250 hitter. So...no.

Only top-10 in MVP voting once.  Had a great career.  Baseball-Reference closest comparison is Mike Cameron.  Definitely not a Hall of Famer but still a great player
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Re: Oh no, Dwyane
« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2020, 08:03:34 PM »
Only top-10 in MVP voting once.  Had a great career.  Baseball-Reference closest comparison is Mike Cameron.  Definitely not a Hall of Famer but still a great player

I’m bored, apologize for what might come off as a quibble, but not a great player. I loved the Toy Cannon. He was exciting, dynamic, fun to watch, had moments of greatness - but I’d say good to very good overall. Not great.

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Re: Oh no, Dwyane
« Reply #52 on: July 20, 2020, 08:23:30 PM »
I’m bored, apologize for what might come off as a quibble, but not a great player. I loved the Toy Cannon. He was exciting, dynamic, fun to watch, had moments of greatness - but I’d say good to very good overall. Not great.

Fair enough.  His peak years were really good.  FWIW, he’s 17th in JAWS (Jay Jaffe’s metrics) for all-time CF.  That puts him ahead of Kirby Puckett and a few other HOFers (https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/jaws_CF.shtml). 

Obviously, Puckett’s career was cut short but it’s interesting to see the other names he’s ahead of and around.
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Re: Oh no, Dwyane
« Reply #53 on: July 20, 2020, 08:42:53 PM »
To the extent that anyone still cares about the thread of antisemitism that Nick Cannon was talking about in the first instance, this podcast does a good job of tracing how an ur-conspiracy that involved the Protocols of the Elders of Zion became extremely influential among 90s hiphop artists.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-bill-cooper-the-man-68407468/

and then part 2

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-bill-cooper-the-man-68561955/

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Re: Oh no, Dwyane
« Reply #54 on: July 20, 2020, 09:00:05 PM »
To the extent that anyone still cares about the thread of antisemitism that Nick Cannon was talking about in the first instance, this podcast does a good job of tracing how an ur-conspiracy that involved the Protocols of the Elders of Zion became extremely influential among 90s hiphop artists.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-bill-cooper-the-man-68407468/

and then part 2

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-two-bill-cooper-the-man-68561955/

Even before that the NOI and 5 per enters became influential within hip hop.. Ice Cube, Erik B and Rakim, Public Enemy and others got involved with the NOI and Louis Farrakhan in the 90’s.
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