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The Sultan

Quote from: GooooMarquette on December 08, 2020, 01:48:18 PM
I totally get what you are saying, and if they had started the season saying 'we'll just do our best and figure out the Championship game when we get there,' I would agree with you. But they didn't; they established a hard and fast rule that they are now ignoring, to the clear benefit of one team and detriment of another. That, IMO is what makes it completely inappropriate.


Yeah I can't weep for a team that is being harmed simply because the team benefitting couldn't play enough games AND beat the team being harmed.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

dgies9156

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 01, 2020, 02:03:23 PM

You said "keep him eligible."  That doesn't speak to admissions.

Historically, the admissions process is focused on finding and admitting students who can succeed at a university. In more recent times, the prestige of the university has come into play.

But the issue is that you admit people who you can keep eligible. It's a little easier to stay eligible at Alabama, for example, with a very broad scale and scope of classes -- some easier than others -- and Vanderbilt, which is a much smaller university.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 01:51:29 PM

Yeah I can't weep for a team that is being harmed simply because the team benefitting couldn't play enough games AND beat the team being harmed.



Like I said, I'm not weeping for IU, but it's really dumb of the conference to create a rule and then ignore it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Billy Hoyle

#553
Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on December 08, 2020, 01:44:07 PM

This is why I said that hard and fast rules don't make sense.  The B10 should do what it can to give Ohio State a chance to get to the playoffs. Indiana doesn't really deserve the Big Ten championship game based on on field results.  Ohio State beat them.  And Ohio State wasn't able to get games because of Covid issues.  Rearranging schedules to get Ohio State a game this weekend is appropriate.

the Pac-12 has been lucky (so to speak) in that they've been able to reschedule conference games because of multiple games being canceled each weekend so you had two teams without games. Unless the Big Ten has a second game canceled for this weekend what are they going to do; shift an opponent to play OSU (e.g., Illinois and tell another school who was supposed to play that school (e.g., Northwestern) "sorry, you're off this week?"

Colorado is getting screwed out in the Pac-12 South and the conference is not willing to do anything about it.

https://www.denverpost.com/2020/12/07/cu-buffs-football-usc-trojans-punished-by-pac-12-coronavirus/
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Mr. Nielsen

Let's go #5 Texas A&M vs #4 Ohio State, make it work!!
If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
-Bill Walton

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 08, 2020, 02:23:22 PM
Let's go #5 Texas A&M vs #4 Ohio State, make it work!!

I don't think there's incentive for TAMU to play that game. Lose and they are out of the playoff for sure. Don't play and there's a significant chance that they sneak in as the fourth team.

Cincy vs. Ohio State would make a lot of sense though.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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shoothoops

UCLA and Jordan Brand announced an agreement today. 5th school to wear Jordan Brand for football.

jesmu84


BM1090

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on December 08, 2020, 02:57:09 PM
I don't think there's incentive for TAMU to play that game. Lose and they are out of the playoff for sure. Don't play and there's a significant chance that they sneak in as the fourth team.

Cincy vs. Ohio State would make a lot of sense though.

Would love to see OSU travel down to play Coastal Carolina. Won't happen, though.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on December 08, 2020, 03:45:24 PM
Would love to see OSU travel down to play Coastal Carolina. Won't happen, though.


They'd throttle them.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

I get that it's in OSU's best interest, but it is also very much in the Big Ten's interest to do this. Does OSU get into the playoffs without the Big Ten title game?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 09, 2020, 11:39:42 AM
I get that it's in OSU's best interest, but it is also very much in the Big Ten's interest to do this. Does OSU get into the playoffs without the Big Ten title game?

They have before. 
Guster is for Lovers

GooooMarquette

#562
Quote from: cheebs09 on December 09, 2020, 11:39:42 AM
I get that it's in OSU's best interest, but it is also very much in the Big Ten's interest to do this. Does OSU get into the playoffs without the Big Ten title game?


They are currently #4 with only five games played, so it is very possible.

One other thing - if you schedule another game, they could lose. Or they could lose the title game. I get that that isn't very likely, but it's a potential downside that they would need to weigh vs the possibility that they could already get in at 5-0. It is not nearly so clear as 'schedule another game and they're in the playoffs' vs 'leave them at 5-0 and they'll be out.'

drewm88

https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1336723455681703941?s=20

@rodger
I am furious that the Big Ten is not following the rules it arbitrarily made up two months ago after deciding to cancel the season four months ago and then uncancel it three months ago

MUBurrow

Don't change the rule. Hoosiers have the covid now anyway. MSU-PSU is a de facto semi final game this weekend and winner goes to the 'ship even though neither can get bowl eligible.  And in that championship the winner plays Northwestern.  Always root for the most BIG result. 

jesmu84


Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

I always thought Jim Delaney was a pompous dbag and his actions, while benefitting the B10 well, negatively affected much in the college sports space at the time. But clearly he knew what he was doing and was a good commissioner.  Unlike Kevin Warren who seems to be over his head.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Big Ten made a smart decision.  Ohio State deserves the spot.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

It won't happen but here's hoping Northwestern beats 'em
Guster is for Lovers

shoothoops

The SEC is expected to announce its new TV deal later today with ESPN/ABC.

CBS dropped out of the bidding at $300 million per season.Currently CBS pays $55 million per season.

This is from last December:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/SB-Blogs/Breaking-News/2019/12/SEC.aspx


Uncle Rico

Quote from: shoothoops on December 10, 2020, 02:55:41 PM
The SEC is expected to announce its new TV deal later today with ESPN/ABC.

CBS dropped out of the bidding at $300 million per season.Currently CBS pays $55 million per season.

This is from last December:

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/SB-Blogs/Breaking-News/2019/12/SEC.aspx

Amateurism
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Mr. Nielsen

If we are all thinking alike, we're not thinking at all. It's OK to disagree. Just don't be disagreeable.
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