2020-21 College Football Thread

[GooooMarquette]

If the ability to win a football National Championship is what makes a "real" P5 school, then it's time for Duke, Wake Forest, Northwestern, Stanford, Boston College, Syracuse and even a bunch of state schools like Oregon State, Maryland, Washington State and others to give up the charade....

[The Sultan]

If the ability to win a football National Championship is what makes a "real" P5 school, then it's time for Duke, Wake Forest, Northwestern, Stanford, Boston College, Syracuse and even a bunch of state schools like Oregon State, Maryland, Washington State and others to give up the charade....

It's not just about a national championship.  Since the dawn of the BCS, the only schools on your list not to reach a BCS bowl are Duke and BC. 

[dgies9156]

If the ability to win a football National Championship is what makes a "real" P5 school, then it's time for Duke, Wake Forest, Northwestern, Stanford, Boston College, Syracuse and even a bunch of state schools like Oregon State, Maryland, Washington State and others to give up the charade....

Most schools will never win a natty in football or basketball.

However, the desire to do so and the willingness to do all you can to compete for that potential separates a P5 school from others.

Brother Fluff, Vanderbilt is notorious for incredibly tough admission standards and no waivers for athletes. A couple of decades ago, Rex Chapman (I believe) had been offered a scholarship by Vanderbilt to play basketball. Everybody around Vanderbilt was excited until the admissions department would not admit him. He ended up at Kentucky.

Alabama may have "smart", scholastically good athletes. But their admissions are no where near Vanderbilt's level.

[The Sultan]

Most schools will never win a natty in football or basketball.

However, the desire to do so and the willingness to do all you can to compete for that potential separates a P5 school from others.

Brother Fluff, Vanderbilt is notorious for incredibly tough admission standards and no waivers for athletes. A couple of decades ago, Rex Chapman (I believe) had been offered a scholarship by Vanderbilt to play basketball. Everybody around Vanderbilt was excited until the admissions department would not admit him. He ended up at Kentucky.

Alabama may have "smart", scholastically good athletes. But their admissions are no where near Vanderbilt's level.

You said "keep him eligible."  That doesn't speak to admissions.

[GooooMarquette]

Most schools will never win a natty in football or basketball.

I was just responding to something you said earlier, which seemed to imply that was the criterion for being a "real" P5 school:

A "real" P5 school will lure you away with Big Dollars, Wonderful Facilities and the chance to have something Vanderbilt will NEVER, EVER Have -- a national championship!

[GooooMarquette]

BYU is now going to play Coastal Carolina, as Liberty is having Covid issues.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30442674/sources-byu-cougars-replace-liberty-flames-coastal-carolina-chanticleers-opponent

They aren't a P5 school, but Coastal is solid this season. And obviously BYU is having a great season. Hopefully, the winner of the year's best non-P5 matchup gets a nice boost in the polls.

[CreightonWarrior]

Regardless of the results was Billy Napier's decision to take a 35 yard safety last night one of the worst coaching decisions in football history?

[The Sultan]

Regardless of the results was Billy Napier's decision to take a 35 yard safety last night one of the worst coaching decisions in football history?

It was bizarre. There are circumstances where an intentional safety makes sense. That wasn't one of them.

[cheebs09]

It was bizarre. There are circumstances where an intentional safety makes sense. That wasn't one of them.

I guess the long snapper airmailed the punter 3 times already in that game. I think that was it avoid a TD.

[GooooMarquette]

Won't matter that Bucky doesn't have enough games to qualify for the B10 title game. Big win for Indiana without their starting QB.

Bad weekend to be a rodent. 🤣

[cheebs09]

Won't matter that Bucky doesn't have enough games to qualify for the B10 title game. Big win for Indiana without their starting QB.

Bad weekend to be a rodent. 🤣

Is there ever a good weekend to be one?

[The Sultan]

BYU at Coastal Carolina was a helluva game.

[GooooMarquette]

BYU at Coastal Carolina was a helluva game.

Yep. Coastal is a little undersized, but played very good football. Well coached and fundamentally sound. BYU came damn close to pulling off the final drive, but Coastal deserved to win.

[Uncle Rico]

Devonta Smith should win the Heisman

[Uncle Rico]

Reports that Urban Meyer turned down overtures from Texas due to health concerns.  Texas is back

[The Sultan]

Texas playing hardball with the Longhorn Network was a short-term win, but a long-term problem.  If I were them, I would look to jump ship to the SEC or the Big Ten because IMO that's how the program gets back.  Those conferences play more meaningful games on the national stage.

If you have a choice between A&M and UT, where would you go?  You want to play games v. Alabama, LSU and Auburn every year?  Or Iowa State and Kansas?  Outside of Oklahoma, where's the big game on your schedule?

[Pakuni]

Ohio State-Michigan has been canceled.
Harbaugh breathes sigh of relief.

[The Sultan]

Ohio State-Michigan has been canceled.
Harbaugh breathes sigh of relief.

Big Ten is going to change its rules IMO to get OSU another game.  The problem is that there are two other cancellations.  First is Purdue v. Indiana, but Indiana doesn't have incentive to play this game because without rule changes, they would be in the Big Ten championship game.  Second is Minnesota v. Nebraska, but Nebraska is probably not interested in playing another game v. Ohio State AND they probably aren't excited about helping the Big Ten out.

So my guess is that they will rearrange a bunch of games so that Ohio State can play.  That's their only way to the CFP playoff.

[Billy Hoyle]

Big Ten is going to change its rules IMO to get OSU another game.  The problem is that there are two other cancellations.  First is Purdue v. Indiana, but Indiana doesn't have incentive to play this game because without rule changes, they would be in the Big Ten championship game.  Second is Minnesota v. Nebraska, but Nebraska is probably not interested in playing another game v. Ohio State AND they probably aren't excited about helping the Big Ten out.

So my guess is that they will rearrange a bunch of games so that Ohio State can play.  That's their only way to the CFP playoff.

The Big Ten is getting what they deserve.

[The Sultan]

Eh, word is that Fox is lobbying hard for the B10 to find another opponent for OSU.  I think they will figure something out.

[Dish]

Indiana is an astonishing +4400 right now on DK to win the Big 10. Just sayin...

[GooooMarquette]

Eh, word is that Fox is lobbying hard for the B10 to find another opponent for OSU.  I think they will figure something out.

I won't get worked up of IU gets screwed...but if this happens, IU is getting screwed.

They came up with clear rules prior to the season so they didn't favor any specific team. Now they're trying to change them, to the clear benefit of tOSU.

It'd be hysterical if they arranged a game and tOSU lost.

[tower912]

MU basketball's turn is coming.   Don't take too much joy in this.

[The Sultan]

I won't get worked up of IU gets screwed...but if this happens, IU is getting screwed.

They came up with clear rules prior to the season so they didn't favor any specific team. Now they're trying to change them, to the clear benefit of tOSU.

It'd be hysterical if they arranged a game and tOSU lost.

This is why I said that hard and fast rules don't make sense.  The B10 should do what it can to give Ohio State a chance to get to the playoffs. Indiana doesn't really deserve the Big Ten championship game based on on field results.  Ohio State beat them.  And Ohio State wasn't able to get games because of Covid issues.  Rearranging schedules to get Ohio State a game this weekend is appropriate.

[GooooMarquette]

This is why I said that hard and fast rules don't make sense.  The B10 should do what it can to give Ohio State a chance to get to the playoffs. Indiana doesn't really deserve the Big Ten championship game based on on field results.  Ohio State beat them.  And Ohio State wasn't able to get games because of Covid issues.  Rearranging schedules to get Ohio State a game this weekend is appropriate.

I totally get what you are saying, and if they had started the season saying 'we'll just do our best and figure out the Championship game when we get there,' I would agree with you. But they didn't; they established a hard and fast rule that they are now ignoring, to the clear benefit of one team and detriment of another. That, IMO is what makes it completely inappropriate.